Deer won't eat corn in Oklahoma?

So you don't think you're great grand-pappy hunting over the only local water source or an oak tree dropping acorns is really any different?

Why complain about people who are willing to support an entire industry? Think of the jobs that would be lost if the manufacturers of the products you seem to find so destressing to our sport just up and closed.

I don't comment on other's methods of hunting. Do I want to watch a dog get cut up, then stick a hog in the heart with a knife? No, but I don't look down at those that do.

I do comment on the chest thumper threads though. Not saying that's what you're doing, but I find the threads where guys get an inflated sense of self because they choose to hunt whatever method they consider 'old school', to be somewhat at odds with trying to keep this sport alive.

Ya'll are taking my comments personally, it's kinda sad. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with baiting an animal if it's legal, and you can call it whatever name you like. Call it spelunking for all I care. I've stated my opinion on baiting vs hunting and if you don't agree, fine, but telling me I should leave Texas? Kinda childish.

What's childish is moving to a new place and whining to everyone that it's not as good here as it was back home.

And no one told you to leave Texas....just questioned why you would chose to stay in such an inferior place.

Ya'll are taking my comments personally, it's kinda sad. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with baiting an animal if it's legal, and you can call it whatever name you like. Call it spelunking for all I care. I've stated my opinion on baiting vs hunting and if you don't agree, fine, but telling me I should leave Texas? Kinda childish.

I was referring to you going back to Utah just for hunting purposes, not leave Texas for good. You can live here, hunt here, fish here, and you can do it all by any method you prefer. Just saying that if you want to lease land to hunt on, you will have to have a pretty penny if your method of hunting is going to be going after the game rather than the game coming to you. Get after it and have fun, but I would prefer that you consider that not all of us have bookoos of money like you rich Utahians.

So now I'm rich and from Utah because of I think there's a differance between hunting/stalking and baiting/trapping? I never said there's anything wrong with baiting deer, I just said it's not the same as hunting them. You can use the word "hunting" to encompass any method of shooting or harvesting a deer, but I call it what it is, baiting. Doesn't mean I think there's anything wrong with it and I do in fact shoot deer this way. Like others have said, if you enjoy it and it gets you outdoors and provides you with a better chance of shooting an animal(legally) then great.

I took my 8 year old daughter out for the first time to sit with me in a ground blind while bowhunting 2 weeks ago. When I "apologized" to her that we didnt see any bucks, she said, "That's ok, Dad. It's was just fun to sit and hope."

Now, that's what hunting is all about.

I took my 8 year old daughter out for the first time to sit with me in a ground blind while bowhunting 2 weeks ago. When I "apologized" to her that we didnt see any bucks, she said, "That's ok, Dad. It's was just fun to sit and hope."

Now, that's what hunting is all about.

So why is it so important to you that the distinction between your definition of hunting and others' definition be made? (you have invested most of your posts on this forum on this topic)

And since you like definitions, how does throwing corn on the ground constitue "trapping"?


"a contrivance used for catching game or other animals, as a mechanical device that springs shut suddenly"

Are you trying to say your don't use a feeder(mechanical device) but go out and throw corn on the ground by hand? That's funny and very hard to believe.

Are you trying to say your don't use a feeder(mechanical device) but go out and throw corn on the ground by hand? That's funny and very hard to believe. And as to your question about why I am posting about the distintion between hunting and baiting it's because that is what this topic is about lol. Why are you even coming to read this thread if you aren't interested in discussing the topic? Again, nothing wrong with baiting a deer where it's legal. Why is it so important that I agree with you that baiting a deer is the same as hunting it?

Edit: Why does benbob keep calling me a utahite or whatever? Is being from utah(which i'm not lol) supposed to be an insult here or something?

Yes, I do EXACTLY that. It's hard for you to believe because you have no idea what you are talking about. I have an old Igloo cooler in the back of my Gator in which I put corn, and using an old coffee can I dribble corn along a sendero (do you have any idea what that is?) in the south Texas brush. The corn SOMETIMES causes a deer to stop in the sendero long enough to get a shot. But he dang sure ain't "trapped" in the sendero.

Again, why continue to argue and personally attack me? I'm not going to change my opinion on baiting an animal, period. Don't care what justification you make. Fact of the matter is, hunting is legal everywhere but baiting is not. That's all the proof I need that there's a differance between the two.

I use fake corn in a real feeder. Fake corn is a lot cheaper than the real thing, but it sure takes a long time to pick it all up every weekend and put it back in the real feeder. Does that make me more of a hunter or a baiter?

Sometimes when I am more than 100 yards from a feeder, I use a recording of a feeder and the deer will come to the sound with no corn being thrown, just the sound. Does that make me a real hunter or a fake baiter?