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Re: River Hunting
[Re: ducknbass]
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10/24/11 12:16 PM
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Kenny Powers
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Duck bass i dont have time to teach you guys .
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Re: River Hunting
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10/24/11 02:15 PM
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Kenny Powers
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Okay...Okay...stop with the sad face.Ill teach you if you really need it.You can kill greenheads like me on public land.Just throw out a bunch of corn in about six inches of water and wait. 
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Re: River Hunting
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10/24/11 03:48 PM
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I know on a river I used to hunt, was told by the GW that on navigatable waterways, you can hunt them and can access the land to the normal vegetation line. That might be right on the bank or could be 100 yards on a big gravel bar...
Dave
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Re: River Hunting
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10/24/11 04:28 PM
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Kenny Powers
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Sounds logical to me dave.Thanks.
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Re: River Hunting
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10/24/11 04:31 PM
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Featherduster
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I know on a river I used to hunt, was told by the GW that on navigatable waterways, you can hunt them and can access the land to the normal vegetation line. That might be right on the bank or could be 100 yards on a big gravel bar...
Dave This is correct
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Re: River Hunting
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10/25/11 11:37 AM
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Kenny Powers
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Man I hate being right all the time.
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Re: River Hunting
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10/25/11 05:45 PM
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Gengo
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Ok I talked to the GW a little bit ago. He said that as long as you don't have to get out of your boat to push/pull it over vegetation/sand bar (when accessing a slough off the main river) you can hunt it. Once you have to step foot out of your boat then you are illegal. On the main river you are good but must be in your boat and it must be either anchored or staked in place.
I asked about if a duck sails into the woods; he told me that it is trespassing if you have to step foot into the woods from the river. I asked about a dog retrieving and he told me that trespassing laws ONLY apply to humans so a dog retrieving is ok.
It's all a moot point since the nearest boat ramp (the only one that isn't a long drive) is out of the water by about 30 yards. I might swing a canoe trip down the river towards the end of the season though.
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Re: River Hunting
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10/25/11 06:35 PM
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Kenny Powers
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Problem is that that Game Warden will tell you one thing and another will tell you another.Id go get the duck if its not clearly marked.The reason the law only applies to humans is because you cant tell a dog to leave your land.And rarely you can find a dog that knows what purple piant on a tree means,or what no tresspassing signs.woof woof.
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Re: River Hunting
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10/25/11 06:44 PM
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Problem is that that Game Warden will tell you one thing and another will tell you another.Id go get the duck if its not clearly marked.The reason the law only applies to humans is because you cant tell a dog to leave your land.And rarely you can find a dog that knows what purple piant on a tree means,or what no tresspassing signs.woof woof. I would go get the duck too, but leave my gun at the boat/canoe. It's more of an ethics thing for me and I will take my lumps, but I will always do my best to recover downed game. I specifically asked about a dog because I will bring my dog for every hunt up there. Pretty swift currents.
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Re: River Hunting
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10/25/11 07:17 PM
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TexasEd
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Ok I talked to the GW a little bit ago. He said that as long as you don't have to get out of your boat to push/pull it over vegetation/sand bar (when accessing a slough off the main river) you can hunt it. Once you have to step foot out of your boat then you are illegal. Not entirely true/Clarification - not if the slough is on private land. The normal channel is the area you can hunt. If there is seasonal flooding onto private land, the land does not become public and you can't cross it even in your boat for the purposes of hunting. Sec. 62.0061. HUNTING ON OR OVER CERTAIN SUBMERGED LAND. (a) Except as provided by Subsection (b), a person may not hunt or take any wild animal or wild bird when the person is on or over privately owned land that is:
(1) submerged under:
(A) public fresh water due to seasonal or occasional innundation; or
(B) public salt water and located above the mean high tide line of the Gulf of Mexico and its bays and estuaries; and
(2) conspicuously marked as privately owned by a sign or signs that are substantially similar to the following:
POSTED. PRIVATE PROPERTY. NO HUNTING.
(b) This section does not apply to:
(1) fishing or to fish and other aquatic life;
(2) a person who:
(A) owns the submerged land; or
(B) obtains the landowner's consent;
(3) land that is dedicated to the permanent school fund and that is located within:
(A) the tidewater limits of this state; or
(B) the gradient boundaries of a navigable river or stream in this state; or
(4) land that is:
(A) submerged by public water; and
(B) located below the mean high tide line of the Gulf of Mexico and its bays and estuaries. On the main river you are good but must be in your boat and it must be either anchored or staked in place. Your boat cannot be moving due to a motor. I believe that drifting with the current is OK, but it would be open to interpretation. Don't risk it, just anchor. Three simple rules: 1. Stay in the normal river channel between the banks even if it is flooded 2. Do not shoot outside the normal river channel 3. Never cross a fence line
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Re: River Hunting
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10/25/11 07:57 PM
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I hunt three different public areas with three different GWs. I have been given two answers. 1. Boundary is the "second bank." For clarity you have the waters edge then you look up the hill and see a second bank. 2. Boundary is the "mean vegetation line," meaning the mean (as used in math) of the vegetation height nearest the river. Imagine a horizontal plane and where it hits the bank is were you can hunt. These are pretty different. I'd do what your warden says. If you go to a different district ask the warden in that area. The guys I have called have always been great to interact with.
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Re: River Hunting
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10/25/11 08:43 PM
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TexasEd: That information was straight from the GW for the county I am hunting in. He actually told me that he has hunted in sloughs in the past and told me what kind of duck hunting action the area offers. I took the anchoring/stake as simply you can't hunt from the bank and must remain in your boat. I didn't ask about drifting, but the section has lots of logs/obstructions so I doubt anybody really drifts it.
MeatDog I agree, he was very informative and very happy to give the information.
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Re: River Hunting
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10/25/11 09:23 PM
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Featherduster
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Warden told me that the high bank is the deadline, BUT to be safe he tells everybody to stop where the vegetation starts.
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Re: River Hunting
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10/25/11 09:34 PM
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TexasEd
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TexasEd: That information was straight from the GW for the county I am hunting in. He actually told me that he has hunted in sloughs in the past I respectfully disagree with the warden based on Sec. 62.0061 quoted above.
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Re: River Hunting
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10/25/11 09:44 PM
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TexasEd: That information was straight from the GW for the county I am hunting in. He actually told me that he has hunted in sloughs in the past I respectfully disagree with the warden based on Sec. 62.0061 quoted above. why? A slough is not seasonally flooded. But always navigable. What are you seeing that I am not?
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Re: River Hunting
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10/26/11 03:46 AM
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TexasEd
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I have some distant relatives with land on the Navasota that has sloughs. They are on private property inside the fence line. They are only seasonally flooded and not part of the normal riverbed.
No, they don't let anyone hunt it.
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Re: River Hunting
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10/26/11 11:49 AM
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Kenny Powers
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The key is public waters.4(a)
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Re: River Hunting
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10/26/11 12:15 PM
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Ed the key is your families is seasonally flooded.
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Re: River Hunting
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10/26/11 01:06 PM
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I have some distant relatives with land on the Navasota that has sloughs. They are on private property inside the fence line. They are only seasonally flooded and not part of the normal riverbed.
No, they don't let anyone hunt it. He did mention that I could not cross any fences. Maybe since your relatives' land is only seasonally flooded it is considered private, but the main sloughs off the main river stay flooded year round?
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