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Re: Would you Cull Him? [Re: trapperjustin] #2669730 10/17/11 06:29 PM
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If you want pasture full of more that look just like him keep him. If it were me he would not have seen this season. From what I see you have to many other very nice bucks to keep a deer like this one another year.



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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Depends on your other deer he has a great frame... I personally would wait another year, due to his frame


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Re: Would you Cull Him? [Re: stxranchman] #2669752 10/17/11 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
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Depends on your other deer he has a great frame... I personally would wait another year, due to his frame


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Re: Would you Cull Him? [Re: trapperjustin] #2669755 10/17/11 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: trapperjustin
One more year. He can't do too much damage to the herd in a year


you do this and eventually you screwed.......compromise or laziness is a receipt for failure


Re: Would you Cull Him? [Re: trapperjustin] #2669783 10/17/11 06:48 PM
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No brows means cull on our place.Great looking buck though.



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Re: Would you Cull Him? [Re: Erathkid] #2669892 10/17/11 07:34 PM
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thanks for all the input. i think i am going to let one of my boys put a hole in him. hope he shows himself early.


Re: Would you Cull Him? [Re: SingleShot85] #2669903 10/17/11 07:38 PM
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One more year. He can't do too much damage to the herd in a year


you do this and eventually you screwed.......compromise or laziness is a receipt for failure


Trying to change genetics on LF is impossible via culling...and is just a poor attempt to justify killing young deer.

To each there own.. if you don't want to feed him cool, but your not changing genetics of your herd, your just controlling numbers



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you are changing genetics... you just might not see it show up for 100yrs.


Re: Would you Cull Him? [Re: Hunter11] #2669925 10/17/11 07:46 PM
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Bobo,
he sure looks like it but not sure. let me see if i can find another picture of him and post. I don't think he is one eyed though.


He has an awesome good side...bad side is probably injury related...may be some thing to think over... He looks 5.5 plus...if you have a good track record on him and it is injury related, and he hasnt come out of it in last two years... That would be the one I was after...by no means is he a cull... He probably has best genetics out off your pics...but he is also the only mature 5.5 deer you posted.

Either way both are great deer for a kid to take.

This just an IMO...



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Re: Would you Cull Him? [Re: stxranchman] #2669960 10/17/11 08:01 PM
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If you want pasture full of more that look just like him keep him. If it were me he would not have seen this season. From what I see you have to many other very nice bucks to keep a deer like this one another year.
. Yelp he is going to bred 25 does this year grin



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I would shoot loppy (the non-symmetric one) and let that 8-point without the brow tines go another couple of years, just to see how wide his frame can get.

I like symmetrical deer though, and don't get hung up on high score or # of points. For me it is how beautiful the animal is, not how trashy his rack is.

I understand the whole genetics deal, and taking out the average to below average deer, but IMO stubby brow tines are not cull-worthy when his rack is that wide and looks symmetrical.

FYI - I am just speaking from what I like, not based on any knowledge whatsoever.


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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
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Depends on your other deer he has a great frame... I personally would wait another year, due to his frame


whipYou disappoint me sometimes BOBO lol35


You would of shot this deer too... Due to one brow and weak g2's...at 6.5 his g2's jumped to 8" and his missing brow went to 3.5 " and good went to 5".


Some people have more patience then others... Some have the resources genetics and time to afford to take only their top 10% to 6.5 plus

As I said I liked his frame.. but if it was me the only deer I would target would be the injured if he was fully mature..





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he wouldn't have been worth skinning. grin


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Re: Would you Cull Him? [Re: rifleman] #2670108 10/17/11 08:47 PM
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he wouldn't have been worth skinning. grin


Lol.. if I had a kid with me no buck would be safe smile even a 2.5 year 150.. but that's just me



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Re: Would you Cull Him? [Re: rifleman] #2670118 10/17/11 08:49 PM
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Re: Would you Cull Him? [Re: Hunter11] #2670137 10/17/11 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: bjac4LSU
Our problem is this...we have 8 guys on the lease, 3 of whom hunt religiously...the others go maybe 3 times a year. We need two more people to fill the lease, and can't get anyone to commit. We have a great place, with good genetics, we just can't kill all the deer we need to kill. Plus, those that go have cameras, those that don't, don't. Costs of fuel, feed, etc are higher than normal or I would have a game camera everywhere and have a guest out every weekend.


Where is your lease and how much?


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We cull 8 pointers at 3 years old. Especially with no brows



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we pay 2800/gun plus cost of corn for 2300 acres. we are in mills county in between brownwood and goldthwaite. looking for 2 more if anyone has interest in looking at the place. send me pm and can discuss.


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I wouldn't be asking for advise on here. Do you want him? If so, take him out! If not let him walk. Pretty simple really.


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If I got a shot at the others I would not take him. If it's late in the year I would take him out.


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If you want pasture full of more that look just like him keep him. If it were me he would not have seen this season. From what I see you have to many other very nice bucks to keep a deer like this one another year.
. Yelp he is going to bred 25 does this year grin


whip That depends on the the buck to doe ratio and what the age structure is also. But his mother is probably still out there, his sisters are probably still out there, and he has been breeding for a while so are his fawns . So if you want more just like him keep him one more and see what he turns into. He is eating feed that the better deer in those pics could be eating. New fawns are coming into the herd this year and something has to be taken out if the ranch is at carrying capacity already. IMO that is what I would do.



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he wouldn't have been worth skinning. grin


Lol.. if I had a kid with me no buck would be safe smile even a 2.5 year 150.. but that's just me


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