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 Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: Texas Dan]
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10/13/11 09:33 PM
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I think it's a non issue for most people in Texas because most people are on leases and have camp rules. You shoot a deer and it counts towards your limit recovered or not. I guess the issue is whether or not you have the moral fortitude and ethics to tell others what happened and take the hit. The real question is how honest are the people your on the lease with.
p.s. thats not a moral dilema thats a character issue I've known of more than one case where a guy claimed he didn't fire the shot that everyone heard that morning or evening, only to have the buzzards provde him wrong. In that case you just tie him down on top of the carcus and let the buzzards have at him too... Then you send him back to his home where he can continue his law practice...lying bastages! 
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: JonesFisher]
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10/13/11 10:02 PM
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Moral Delema!!!! Not really I was just advised to refer to TPW rules and regs, well think I have a problem with this one. If your are unfortunate enough to have a bad shot placement, should you use a tag? Lets hear your thoughts!!!!!
There's a lot of variables here that the OP didn't cover in the original post. I'm assuming he's talking about a private lease, and not a guided hunt. With that being said, I think a lot of yall missed Sniper Johns post. Every one is gonna lose a deer sooner or later. Sometimes it just happens. I hate that it does, but it is what it is. If you are losing 5 Deer a year, you might want to check your sites or change your bullet. That's assuming your talking about rifle hunting which goes back to my 1st sentence. I wouldn't really worry about it that much. If you are, spend the next couple of weeks practicing as much as possible.
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: JonesFisher]
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10/13/11 10:24 PM
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We don't get all that picky on our lease... we are only allowed 1 buck and 1 doe (per ranch owners rule) so we kinda look at it "If you don't get to take it home, it doesn't cost you a tag." It's up to the individual if he wants to burn a tag or not.
What we "suggest" to our members if they wound one, is to, take a spike if they still want a deer and let one of the kids shoot their good buck.
All that being said I only know of 2 deer that have been shot and not recovered in 11yr on our lease. We ALL go and help if a deer needs to be tracked and usually find it.
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: RICK O'SHAY]
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10/13/11 10:33 PM
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"So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!"
This would have been a perfect question for that other thread someone posted earlier about,......."Things you say that can get you kicked off a lease!"
Thursday at 12:45 PM
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Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: Jimbo]
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10/13/11 10:38 PM
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"So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!"
This would have been a perfect question for that other thread someone posted earlier about,......."Things you say that can get you kicked off a lease!" 
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: Jimbo]
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10/13/11 10:40 PM
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"So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!"
This would have been a perfect question for that other thread someone posted earlier about,......."Things you say that can get you kicked off a lease!" 
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: Navasot]
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10/14/11 01:31 AM
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X2, and stay out of the woods until you do.. 
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: bjankowski]
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10/14/11 10:01 AM
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I would not burn a tag on one I did not recover. Now five, c'mon! You should sell your gun and bow and buy some traps and start selling pelts. Don't try and shoot them in the trap as they tend to move around when you walk up on them. Use a knife to dispatch them, or read them this thread cause I bet it will be a long one. By the time your done it will commit suicide........
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: Texas Dan]
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10/14/11 02:38 PM
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Really ? Heck you could go ahead and wound 15-20. But you only get to tag/keep 5 that are eventually recovered.  I'd suggest after the first or second wound/loss to re-evaluate your set up and learn to shoot it, before going back out to wound another. (love all the new smilies )
"If age structure is deemed to be valuable to management,...What percentage change in age structure or condition does TPWD recognize that it needs to detect in order to trigger a regulatory change?  TPWD
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: PHishTX]
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10/14/11 08:20 PM
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this reminds me of a post a year or two ago ( I searched for it but couldn't find is).. In summary: This guy bought a new rifle, bore sighted (never shot paper) it and went hunting. He shot at a deer, didn't think he hit the deer because it didn't DRT AND he made no attempt to track it. The guy assumes the scope is not keeping zero so he re-sighted (using only the bore site) between hunts. By the time he made it here to ask for advice he had already missed/wounded/killed 5 deer.. Never made a single attempt to track them because he assumed all hit deer Dropped in their tracks.
Ignorance played a big part in this one; the guy assumed bore sighting was adequate and even superior to shooting paper and had seen too many DRT's on the TV to know that deer don't always fall where they stand. What bothered me the most is that he didn't feel like he had done no wrong by not tracking the deer and by continuing to shoot at them with an unsighted rifle.
I'm still hoping that that post was a big joke. How do you keep shooting at deer after the 2nd miss... I'll give a guy 1 bad shot, but 2 in a row and there is a problem with the shooter or the equipment that needs to be addressed before he draws on another animal. I have made a bad shot, drew blood and didn't recover the deer. I literally burned a tag in the fire at camp that evening. But I wouldn't be upset if a hunting buddy didn't burn his tag in a similar situation.
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: wgonfan]
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10/14/11 09:26 PM
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First time= Bummer, You do all you can, and learn from what you did wrong.
Second time= Burn your tag, sit down and evaluate what you are doing wrong, and correct it immediately.
Third time= Burn all your license tags at camp, and be the camp goffer for the remainder of the season.
Forth time wounded a hog, you had better leave camp as soon as possible get rid of all your hunting guns and take up fishing.
Last edited by Jimbo; 10/14/11 09:30 PM.
Thursday at 12:45 PM
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Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: Jimbo]
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10/14/11 09:53 PM
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: scattergun]
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10/14/11 10:07 PM
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Thursday at 12:45 PM
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Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: Jimbo]
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10/14/11 11:45 PM
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 I think he was trolling to start with, no one can be that stupid, can they?
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: bjankowski]
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10/15/11 02:27 AM
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people can be that stupid, seen them post on here.
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: Texas Dan]
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10/15/11 11:00 PM
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Quit hunting, you're either secretly against killing animals or you're blind
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: mountain_man]
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10/16/11 12:00 AM
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: bjankowski]
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10/16/11 06:49 PM
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Thats my point people need to learn to shoot before they hunt, crawl before they walk, surely you can understand my meaning behind that!
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: wgonfan]
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10/16/11 07:13 PM
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this reminds me of a post a year or two ago ( I searched for it but couldn't find is).. In summary: This guy bought a new rifle, bore sighted (never shot paper) it and went hunting. He shot at a deer, didn't think he hit the deer because it didn't DRT AND he made no attempt to track it. The guy assumes the scope is not keeping zero so he re-sighted (using only the bore site) between hunts. By the time he made it here to ask for advice he had already missed/wounded/killed 5 deer.. Never made a single attempt to track them because he assumed all hit deer Dropped in their tracks.
Ignorance played a big part in this one; the guy assumed bore sighting was adequate and even superior to shooting paper and had seen too many DRT's on the TV to know that deer don't always fall where they stand. What bothered me the most is that he didn't feel like he had done no wrong by not tracking the deer and by continuing to shoot at them with an unsighted rifle.
I'm still hoping that that post was a big joke. How do you keep shooting at deer after the 2nd miss... I'll give a guy 1 bad shot, but 2 in a row and there is a problem with the shooter or the equipment that needs to be addressed before he draws on another animal. I have made a bad shot, drew blood and didn't recover the deer. I literally burned a tag in the fire at camp that evening. But I wouldn't be upset if a hunting buddy didn't burn his tag in a similar situation. I was thinking about that same thread. It was last season and I have to believe the guy was serious. he said he uses a laser bore sighter from his blind. And when he got called on it, he got a case of the red arse and I havent seen him post since. Personally. I have a problem with the " drawing blood " part. I have lost a couple over the years to be found months later dead. But I have also shot a couple, with my bow in these cases where I was not sure and then saw them later on in good health. If you can only take 5 per lease rules, I could see knocking one of the quota. But I cant see tagging it. But again, I also agree, if you shoot and dont find 5 deer in a season, give your lease spot to some one that can shoot and go play golf or something.
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: Texas Dan]
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10/16/11 08:52 PM
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I would say if you shot at 5 deer, find blood but not the deer, you should take up basket weaving!
If I hit a deer and know I hit it and find blood, I'll burn a tag.
I'd ask him if he's pregnant. He missed a s__tload of periods. I'll take "things that look like a uterus" for $200 Alex.
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: hoof n wings]
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The parks and wildlife regulations state that you must do everything in your power to recover wounded game or you are in violation of the law.That to me say's,you shoot the first deer and you stop hunting until it is recovered,or not.Then rethink your program.
Life is too short, as is. Don't chance it.
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: Erathkid]
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: JonesFisher]
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I think the OP was being facetious here. Personally, I would burn the tag.
"I have too many guns," said no one, ever.
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: LandPirate]
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Truest sign of character in a person is doing the right thing even when nobody is looking. Well said!
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Re: So if I wound 5 dear a season but dont recover them, i dont have to tag any of them!!!
[Re: deewayne2003]
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I was on a drawn archery hunt last fall and I shot a nice buck. The shot looked good and I gave the deer about an hour and my buddy and I went to look for him. After about 60 yards on the blood trail I heard the deer jump up and run off. We found where he had layed down not far from there. We tracked him for another 700 or so yards before losing the blood trail. I told the Biologists that were over the hunt that I had lost a deer I shot and told him I would not hunt any more. He said "you did everything you could to find him now go hunt another one". I ended up killing a very nice 10 point the next day.
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