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FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD #265666 11/30/07 05:31 PM
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*FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD
This post is pinned to help us bookmark common information and sites regarding Feral Hogs Regulation, Laws, Health warning, or Public information regarding Hogs. If you have any good sites or information please post them here. up cheers

*New Texas Animal Health Commission (TAHC) regulations for moving LIVE feral swine will go into effect October 1, 08.
http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_health/swine/swine.html


The brochure also is posted on the TAHC web site at http://www.tahc.state.tx.us

*Regulations for Moving LIVE Wild Hogs.
http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_health/swine/feral_swine.pdf



*TAHC: Regulations For Trapping or Moving Feral (Wild) Swine, Safety for Hunters,
http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_health/sb_pr/feral_swine.pdf

*TAHC: Swine Diseases a Danger to Humans and Livestock.
web page
http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_health/diseases/sb_pr/feral_swine.pdf


*TPWLD links:
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/nuisance/feral_hogs/


*Trapping and Trap construction:
http://www.hpj.com/archives/2005/dec05/d...;0.545428953909
http://www.noble.org/Ag/Wildlife/FeralHogs/12-Trapping.htm
http://www.wilcoxwebworks.com/hs/hogtrapspermanent.htm
http://www.agfc.com/!userfiles/pdfs/hunting/hog_trap_flier_web.pdf

Box Traps for Feral Hogs
http://pcwp.tamu.edu/media/6632/L-5525-Box-Traps-for-Feral-Hogs.pdf

Feral Hog Corral Trap
http://www.agfc.com/species/Documents/hog_trap_flier_web.pdf
http://goliad.agrilife.org/files/2011/08/wexford_trap_3.pdf


Corral Traps for Capturing Feral Hogs Capture Techniques
•Recognizing Feral Hog Sign
•Snares (Learn how to build your own HERE)
•Box traps
•Corral traps
•Bait types (coming soon)
•Firearms
http://pcwp.tamu.edu/FeralHogs/CaptureTechniques.aspx



*Anatomy and kill zone:
http://www.texasboars.com/anatomy.html



*Processing:


*Salt Curing and Smoking Meats:
http://uga.edu/nchfp/publications/nchfp/lit_rev/cure_smoke_cure.html
http://www.mortonsalt.com/products/meatcuring/smokeflavor.html


*Cooking, prep, and sausage
http://www.sausagemaker.com/
http://www.askthemeatman.com/cooking_wild_boar.htm
http://www.lubbockonline.com/stories/022207/lif_022207030.shtml
http://bbq.about.com/od/barbecuehelp/a/aa061006a.htm
http://www.pig-hunt.com/id20.html
http://www.spitjack.com/page/SJ/CTGY/HOG?gclid=CPH8se_JjYkCFQRbFQodAylOAw
http://slemke.tripod.com/hog.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brining



*TAMU INFORMATION:
http://texnat.tamu.edu/symposia/feral/feral-6.htm
http://feralhogs.tamu.edu/trap.cfm
http://feralhogs.tamu.edu/bait.cfm
http://wildlife.tamu.edu/publications/tahcregulations4.pdf



*OTHER TRAPS:
http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/documents/Biosecurity_EnvironmentalPests/IPA-Control-Feral-Pigs-PA7.pdf


*How much does your animal weigh?
http://ag.arizona.edu/backyards/articles/winter07/p11-12.pdf


Coping With Feral Hogs
http://feralhogs.tamu.edu/




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*LICENSE REQUIREMENT FOR FERAL HOGS 2009-2010 OUTDOORS ANNUAL*

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/annual/general/hunt_licenses/
A hunting license is required of any person, regardless of age, who hunts any animal, bird, frog or turtle in this state (except furbearers, if the hunter possesses a trapper's license). No license is required for nuisance fur-bearing animals, depredating hogs or coyotes (see below). Non-residents under 17 years of age may purchase and hunt with the Youth Hunting License (Type 169).

Exceptions: a hunting license is not required to hunt the following:

Coyotes, if the coyotes are attacking, about to attack, or have recently attacked livestock, domestic animals, or fowl.
Depredating feral hogs, if a landowner (resident or non-resident) or landowner's agent or lessee is taking feral hogs causing depredation on the landowner's land.
Fur-bearing animals, if the hunter possesses a trapper's license or if the fur-bearing animals are causing depredation.
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A hunting license is required of any person, regardless of age, who hunts any animal, bird, frog or turtle in this state (except furbearers, if the hunter possesses a trapper's license).

Note: All laws and regulations governing hunter education still apply.

EXOTIC ANIMALS AND FOWL
Exotic animal refers to grass-eating or plant-eating, single-hoofed or cloven-hoofed mammals that are not indigenous or native to Texas and are known as ungulates, including animals from the deer and antelope families that landowners have introduced into this state. Includes, but is not limited to feral hog, Aoudad sheep, Axis deer, Elk, Sika deer, Fallow deer, Blackbuck antelope, Nilgai antelope, and Russian boar. Exotic fowl refers to any avian species that is not indigenous to this state, including ratites (emu, ostrich, rhea, cassowary, etc.).

There are no state bag or possession limits or closed seasons on exotic animals or fowl on private property. It is against the law to:
-Hunt an exotic without a valid hunting license.
-Hunt an exotic on a public road or right-of-way.
-Hunt an exotic without the landowner's permission.
-Possess an exotic or the carcass of an exotic without the owner's consent.

Penalty: A person who violates these laws commits an offense that is a Class A Parks and Wildlife Code misdemeanor ($500-$4000 and/or up to one year in jail).

Nongame and Other Species
NONGAME ANIMALS (Includes, but is not limited to the following):
Armadillos*
Bobcats*
Coyotes*
Flying squirrels
Frogs
Ground squirrels
Mountain lions
Porcupines
Prairie dogs
Rabbits
Turtles
Does not include feral hog (see Exotic Animals and Fowl).
No closed season. These animals may be hunted at any time by any lawful means or methods on private property. Public hunting lands may have restrictions. A hunting license is required.


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License Requirement:
Feral Hog Laws and Regulations in Texas
http://pcwp.tamu.edu/media/7025/feral-hog-laws-and-regulations-in-texas.pdf




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New feral hog publications aim to help landowners thwart growing menace
February 18, 2010
Writer(s):
Steve Byrns, 325-653-4576,s-byrns@tamu.edu

Contact(s):Dr. Jim Cathey, 979-845-2862, jccathey@tamu.edu

COLLEGE STATION – The Texas AgriLife Extension Service has developed five new feral hog control publications to help landowners corral this growing menace, according to an AgriLife Extension specialist.

These publications were funded by the Texas State Soil and Water Conservation Board and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency through a Clean Water Act § 319(h) nonpoint source grant. Publications are available online at: http://plumcreek.tamu.edu/feralhogs/ .

These publications specifically target the Plum Creek Watershed in Hays and Caldwell counties, an area especially hard hit by the marauders, but are applicable wherever feral hogs are a problem, said Dr. Jim Cathey, AgriLife Extension wildlife specialist at College Station.

Chancey Lewis, AgriLife Extension wildlife assistant at Lockhart and his colleagues developed the new publications. Lewis works closely with landowners in Hays and Caldwell counties, giving instruction and technical guidance on hog trapping, as part of the implementation of the Plum Creek Watershed Protection Plan.

The five publications are:

– “Recognizing Feral Hog Sign,” deals with the evidence or sign the hogs leave in passing. By being able to read sign, Cathey said landowners can learn where the animals are traveling and apply the appropriate management technique to reduce their numbers.

– “Corral Traps for Capturing Feral Hogs,” discusses large traps that Cathey said have proven useful in reducing hog numbers quickly. According to Lewis, feral hogs typically travel in large family groups called “sounders,” and a corral trap can often be used to capture the entire group.

– “Box Traps for Capturing Feral Hogs,” deals with a second option that should be considered after corral traps, Cathey said. While they are not the best choice for removing large hog numbers, box traps, because they are readily movable, can be used to quickly remove small numbers from trouble spots.

– “Snaring Feral Hogs,” offers instructions on placement and handling of snares. Snares are ideal for situations where feral hogs have become wary of box or corral traps. Snares are also much cheaper than traps, according to Lewis.

- "Building a Feral Hog Snare," provides step-by-step instructions for producing snares used for catching feral hogs.

For more information contact Lewis at 979-393-8517 or cdlewis@ag.tamu.edu .

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Meat Safety Assurance
I work for the state with the Meat Safety Assurance and here is an e-mail we received recently concerning Tularemia:

Hunters in Texas should take precautions if they hunt feral swine. Processing or handling the raw meat from feral swine can potentially expose a person to the organism that causes tularemia (Francisella tularensis) based on research conducted by a Texas Tech team of scientists from The Institute of Environmental and Human Health. Tularemia is a zoonotic disease, meaning it is shared by humans and animals. Dr. Steven Presley’s group sampled over 100 feral swine from three Texas counties: Coryell, Bell and Crosby. Blood samples from swine in the two Central Texas counties averaged 20% positive for tularemia while 31% of the Crosby County hogs exhibited positive test results. These results indicate a significant exposure of the feral swine to this disease organism. Of greater concern is the additional finding that when four of the Crosby County animals were tested for the active presence of the organism, three were positive. Funding limitations have precluded the testing for the organism in the Central Texas hogs so they have only been determined to have been exposed to the tularemia bacteria at this point but active infection would not be unexpected.

Several forms of tularemia may occur in humans, each being dependent on the route of exposure. Skin ulcers and/or swollen lymph nodes can result if the infected fluid from the animal enters the body through skin cuts or abrasions. An oral cavity or throat infection can develop if undercooked meat from an infected animal is eaten. Inhalation of infected droplets of fluid while processing an infected animal can result in pneumonia, while an eye infection may develop if the droplets enter the mucous membranes of the eye. Even deer flies and ticks are capable of transmitting the bacteria through their bites, usually resulting in skin ulceration or swollen lymph nodes.

Due to the different potential routes of exposure, it is important for hunters to practice good personal safety while hunting or processing feral swine or handling their fresh meat. The use of insect repellent is always recommended anytime someone is going to be entering environments containing ticks or other disease vectors. The use of eye protection and gloves (latex or nitrile) are strongly recommended for people who will butcher feral hogs and disposable masks can reduce the risk of inhaling infectious fluid droplets. In addition to tularemia, feral swine may also be infected with the bacteria that cause another zoonotic disease, brucellosis. The same protective measures for tularemia will help prevent infection by the brucellosis bacteria. Since eating undercooked meat from feral hogs can also transmit these two diseases, thorough cooking is advised.

While feral hogs from only three counties have been sampled, the magnitude of the positive portion of that population suggests that feral swine from other counties can be expected to also be potential sources of F. tularensis. It is estimated that 1.5 - 2 million feral swine occur in 215 of 254 Texas counties while 32 of the 50 United States have reported their presence. The overall national population estimate is ~4 million. Since feral swine are commonly hunted and harvested for human consumption, particularly during the fall and winter deer hunting season, hunters should be made aware of the potential to become exposed to and infected with F. tularensis while handling feral swine carcasses and tissues – particularly bodily fluids.



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Feral Hog Transportation Regulations
By: Paul Schattenberg 3-21-2011


COLLEGE STATION – Landowners who trap feral hogs on their property also need to know about the regulations regarding the transportation, potential release and other means of utilizing these creatures, said Texas AgriLife Extension Service experts.

“Landowners in the Plum Creek Watershed of Hays, Caldwell and Travis counties who decide to trap feral hogs should ask themselves what they’re going to do with them after they’re trapped,” said Jared Timmons, AgriLife Extension assistant supporting the Plum Creek Watershed Partnership.

Timmons said trapping, then cooking and eating feral hogs is one viable option.

“Feral hog meat is delicious when properly prepared,” he said. “And with this option, the trapped animals never have to leave your property.”

However, he added, some people may be averse to eating feral hog or sometimes trapping yields more than can be consumed.

“In such instances, moving live feral hogs must meet a set of rules, and this plays into management decisions,” he said.

The Texas Animal Health Commission regulates the movement of feral hogs, holding facilities and some aspects of hunting preserves, said Dr. Jim Cathey, AgriLife Extension specialist in wildlife ecology.

“However, some clarification is needed here,” Cathey said. “Hunting preserves must have a hunting lease permit issued by the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department. And feral hog gender is regulated differently.”

Cathey said female feral hogs, sows and gilts, may not be transported and released onto another property.

“Instead, female feral hogs may be held for up to seven days in an escape-proof pen or trailer,” he explained. “They can then be taken directly to slaughter or sold to an approved holding facility which would take them to slaughter.”

A list of approved feral hog holding facilities may be found at the commission’s website at http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_health/feral_swine.html.

Male feral hogs, boars and barrows, also may be held for up to seven days in an escape-proof pen or trailer and may be taken directly to slaughter or sold to an authorized holding facility, he said.

That facility then may either take them to slaughter or sell them to an authorized hunting preserve.

“Authorized hunting preserves must have swine-proof fencing and must individually identify every feral hog released on the property,” he noted. “They are also subject to periodic inspections by the Texas Animal Health Commission.”

Domestication of feral hogs is allowed, but discouraged as a further option, Cathey said.

“This process would require quarantine of a minimum of 150 days, and each animal must be tested four times as being free of pseudorabies and swine brucellosis.”

Timmons said that in addition to damaging the property of Plum Creek Watershed residents, feral hogs also have been identified as possible contributors to non-point pollution of the watershed and may be partially responsible for the water source’s elevated levels of bacteria and nitrogen.

“Feral hogs are among the topics addressed in the Plum Creek Watershed Protection Plan, which addresses multiple aspects of water quality and source preservation,” he said.

Several publications on feral hogs developed by AgriLife Extension can be downloaded free from the Plum Creek Partnership website at http://plumcreek.tamu.edu/feralhogs.

These publications address evidence of feral hogs, hunting and trapping methods and other salient topics. The site also contains online tools for use by landowners and the general public in reporting feral hog sightings or control measures.

Funding and support for the development of the Plum Creek Watershed Protection Plan is provided through a Clean Water Act §319(h) non-point source grant from the Texas State Soil and Water Conservation Board and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

For more information or technical assistance with feral hogs in Plum Creek Watershed area, contact Jared Timmons at 254-485-4886 or jbtimmons@ag.tamu.edu.




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March 24, 2011 -
Busting feral hog myths
By Robert Burns AUTHORPHONE

OVERTON -- Until recently, if anyone tried to tell you how many feral hogs there
are in Texas, they were just blowing smoke, according to a Texas AgriLife
Extension Service wildlife biologist.

"When it comes to feral hogs in Texas, separating fact from fiction is becoming
a little easier as research reveals more about the pesky porcines," said Dr.
Billy Higginbotham, AgriLife Extension wildlife specialist. "There remains much
we don’t know about this exotic that has inhabited our state for the past 450
years."

Highest ranking among the myths are estimates of the actual number of feral hogs
in Texas, Higginbotham said. A common number that has been bantered about for
years is 1 to 4 million. But there was just no data to support this estimate.

That is, there wasn't until Dr. Roel Lopez, associate director of the Texas A&M
University Institute for Renewable Natural Resources, recently used geographic
information system procedures to turn the guesstimates into reliable estimates,
said Higginbotham, who collaborated with Lopez on the study.

The term "geographic information systems," usually simply called GIS, refers to
a procedure that involves diverse data gathering means, from on-the-ground GPS
referenced data to satellite to historical records, and organizes it
geographically.

"A simpler way to put it is that it’s just a electronic map," Lopez said.

Using GIS techniques, Lopez was able to quantify first the extent of the feral
hog habitat in Texas. He estimates that "approximately 134 million acres, or 79
percent of the state’s 170 million acres, represents feral hog habitat," said
Higginbotham.

By knowing the range of feral hog habitat and the species population density in
various types of Texas environments, Lopez also came up with a population
estimate that has some meat to it, Higginbotham said. Lopez estimates that the
actual number could range from a low of 1.9 million to a high of 3.4 million.

Exaggerated claims of feral hog population-growth rates are a related myth. Many
of the population guesstimates are based on a purely arbitrary number of hogs in
Texas being set at 1 million in the 1970s. This number, which also had no
research basis, is then often extrapolated on using another bit of
misinformation: That because of feral hogs' high birth rates, their population
is doubling every year.

So what are the facts?

A 2011 consolidation of past studies done by his graduate student, Janell
Mellish, the average litter size in Texas and the Southeast is 5.6 pigs, Lopez
said.

It is also known, that on average, a sow is about 13 months old when she has her
first litter, and that also on average, mature sows have 1.5 litters per year.
This means there is a significant population growth rate, but a far cry from
the doubling-yearly myth, Lopez said.

"We estimated the population growth of feral hogs in Texas averages between 18
percent to 20 percent annually," Lopez said. "This means that it would take
almost five years for a population to double in size if left unchecked."

The study, which was conducted by Lopez and Mellish, used three methods to
estimate feral pig population growth in Texas: the statewide number of aerial
permits issued for shooting feral hogs; the number of pigs processed in
commercial processing facilities; and feral hog control data made available from
U.S. Department of Agriculture-Wildlife Services.

Another common myth is that recreational hunting alone can control feral hog
populations, Higginbotham said.

"Of the dozen studies conducted across the nation, hunting removes between 8
percent and 50 percent of a population, with an average of 24 percent across all
studies," he said. "In order to hold a population stable with no growth, 60 to
70 percent of a feral hog population would have to be removed annually."

Another myth is that it's possible to identify the breed of a given feral hog by
its color markings.

"Today’s feral hogs are descended from domestic breeds, Eurasian wild boars
and, of course, hybrids of the two," Higginbotham said. "But despite claims to
the contrary, simply observing the color patterns, hair characteristics and size
cannot let you definitively identify which of the three types and individual hog
falls into."

One thing about feral hogs is definitely not a myth -- the huge amount of damage
they do to crops, wildlife habitat and landscapes, Higginbotham said. And from
all indications, the damage they do is expanding in scope and range.

"Feral hogs were once largely a rural or agricultural issue in Texas, inflicting
over $52 million in damage annually," he said. "But the porkers have literally
moved to town and are now causing significant damage in urban and suburban
communities. This damage includes the rooting of landscapes, parks, lawns, golf
courses, sports fields and even cemeteries, as they search for food. It has
been estimated that a single hog can cause over $200 damage annually."

The $200-per-hog estimate doesn't include the damage feral hogs do as they
compete with other wildlife species, such as whitetail deer, for food and
habitat, he noted. And some of the species challenged by feral hog invasions are
endangered species.

It's important to keep in perspective that the bottom line is not an actual
hog-head count, but the damage they do and how to develop ways to reduce it.

"For those landowners actively engaged in deer management, their tolerance of
feral hogs should be very, very low," Higginbotham said. "Can we (significantly)
reduce the damage feral hogs do through control efforts? The answer is
'absolutely yes.'

"Texas AgriLife Extension Service has demonstrated that through education and
outreach and Wildlife Services-led control efforts, damage can be significantly
reduced by control efforts," he said. "In a 2006-07 study funded by the Texas
Department of Agriculture, agricultural damage was reduced by 66 percent via
control efforts in just two years."

Since 2007, subsequent studies done by AgriLife Extension and again funded by
the state’s department of agriculture confirmed that control measures such as
trapping and shooting "prevented millions of dollars in damage by reducing feral
hog populations," he said.

"Landowners remain the first line of defense since Texas is 95 percent privately
owned land," Higginbotham said. "This means arming the public with Best
Management Practices and using various legal control methods to abate the damage
by reducing feral hog populations."

For more information on feral hogs, visit the AgriLife Extension website,
"Coping with Feral Hogs," at http://feralhogs.tamu.edu .






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Texas A&M AgriLife Extension Feral Hog Resources: Just One Click Away

Posted: 13 Jun 2013 12:19 PM PDT

By
Mark Tyson, Extension Associate
Blake Alldredge, Extension Associate


Online information can be difficult to find and time consuming to access. In this modern, fast-paced world people have become accustomed to using online search engines to quickly find the information they are looking for. While most online search engines are quite accurate at producing the desired content, users may still have to filter through search results to locate the exact information they require.
The Texas A&M AgriLife Extension Service has developed a myriad of online feral hog related resources including publications, fact sheets, videos and websites. In an effort to increase the accessibility of these resources, hyperlinks offering individual access to all of these online resources are provided below.
Wildlife and Fisheries Extension Feral Hog Online Resources




o Feral Hog Community of Practice (CoP) website
o Feral Hog CoP
o 103 FAQs
o 54 Articles
o Ask an Expert
o 4 National Webinars (Biology, Disease, Control, Current Research)
o Coping with Feral Hogs
o Coping with Feral Hogs
o Feral Hog Reporting
o Feral Hog Reporting
o Feral Hog Publications
o Recognizing Feral Hog Sign: English Spanish
o Placing And Baiting Feral Hog Traps: English Spanish
o Corral Traps For Capturing Feral Hogs: English Spanish
o Box Traps For Feral Hogs: English Spanish
o Making A Feral Hog Snare: English Spanish
o Snaring Feral Hogs: English Spanish
o Door Modifications for Feral Hog Traps: English Spanish
o Using Fences To Exclude Feral Hogs From Wildlife Feeding Stations
o Feral Hog Population Growth, Density And Harvest In Texas
o Feral Hogs Negatively Affect Native Plant Communities
o Feral Hog Approved Holding Facility Guidelines In Texas
o Feral Hog Fact Sheets
o Feral Hogs Impact Ground Nesting Birds
o Feral Hogs Laws and Regulations In Texas
o Feral Hog Transportation Regulations
o Feral Hogs And Disease Concerns
o Feral Hogs And Water Quality in Plum Creek


o Feral Hog YouTube Videos
o
History, Biology, and Population Dynamics of Feral Hogs
o Feral Hog Impacts on Agriculture and Wildlife in Texas
o Exclusion Fencing for Wildlife Feeders
o Control Techniques and Regulations for Feral Hogs in Texas
o Strategic Shooting Of Feral Hogs For Population Control
o Trapping Feral Hogs: Using Remote Cameras
o Trapping Feral Hogs: Laws and Regulations
o Trapping Feral Hogs: Non-Target Species and Trigger Type
o Trapping Feral Hogs: Time of Year
o Trapping Feral Hogs: Corral Trap Designs
o Trapping Feral Hogs: Gates And Baits
o
Wild Wonderings Blog
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o
Wildlife and Fisheries Extension Social Media
· Facebook
o Wildlife and Fisheries Extension
o Feral Hogs Community of Practice


In addition to these online resources, Mark Tyson and Jared Timmons have been hired as Extension Associates to help address the statewide feral hog problem. Both Tyson and Timmons will provide free technical assistance to landowners by conducting site visits to assist them in creating a feral hog management strategy specific to their property. They will also provide free watershed-based educational trainings to the public in order to increase their knowledge on feral hog biology, behavior and management options.
For more information on the feral hog resources available to the public please contact Mark Tyson at (979) 845-4698 or Jared Timmons at (254) 485-4886.


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Re: FERAL HOG INFORMATION THREAD [Re: jeh7mmmag] #265667 11/30/07 06:33 PM
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Are there any parts of the State of Texas that have solved their "hog problem"?

I keep thinking that with all the hunters in this State and the fact that one can just about hunt them any time, any where (with permission) with just about any weapon, why there are still so many of these hog out there?

Are they really that prolific and that smart?



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Are they really that prolific and that smart?




Smart no! Prolific yes. Add that to the tendency for them to move at night and a limited amount of predators willing to take on the onslaught of an adult hog.



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I am gonna have to disagree with you on that one.

On the scale of animal intelligence, pigs are smarter than cats or dogs.

Why do you think they go nocturnal if they are shot into a couple of times during the day time.

The fact that in some places people keep catching hog after hog in their traps, is due to greed on the hogs part in wanting to get at the bait inside the trap.

I bet there are folks out there right now that are beginning to experience hogs that are getting trap smart. JMO.


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I think it depends on how we measure their intelligence. If we measure it on their ability to avoid hunters, I would have to say not very smart. One of the reasons they’re so popular to hunt with a bow or handguns is the hunter’s ability to get in close. Their eye sights poor, to say the least, making them easy to stalk by just playing the wind.


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I don't think they go nocturnal, their just nocturnal by nature as are most wild creatures.



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This is great. Just like the age old question: Which is smarter, the pig or the horse? I always picked the pig. Ya don't see them with cowboys on their backs all day, do you?



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The places where they are hunted with bow and handgun are different than places where they have been hunted with rifles.

Bow and handgun hunting work in areas with big hog populations and low hunting pressure.

Try putting a bow or handgun hunter out on a place where the hogs have received lots of pressure and the population is on the low side.

Also just like white tail deer will go nocturnal, so will pigs.

True, pigs do prefer to travel during the periods of low light.

I have also seen pigs change from moving around just before dark, to not moving at all until well after dark because they had been shot at. JMO.


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Hogs will go nocturnal quicker too. Still, that's why we have glow sticks and spot lights.



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Well hopefully a pig or two'll log in and blog a bit just to demonstrate their intelligence, or lack thereof, and settle this issue...otherwise Id hafta vote for the hog and rider theory that A777 come up with...of course on the other hand, maybe the hogs are what cowboys ride at night and THAT's why we don't see them rode...


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hogs use there noses more than anything else! I know a man who is in his late 70s he grew up somewhere close to jasper as a child they had no running water and the well was some distance from there house one day his grandmother and siblings were getting water and came up on some wild pigs she told them dont make a sound and dont move he said after a little while the pigs just walked off he thinks it was becuase they could not see them or here them



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i have walked up to 10 yards and shot them with my bow, very bad vision. good noses though. you have to kill 80 percent or the hog population every year for it not to grow. it is just impossible to kill that many, other than with helicopters and class 3 weapons



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#1 - YES! They will charge some times. Down here in BFE we hunt them a lot with dogs and when they are bayed up by a bunch of dogs they get...shall we say "irritated". The other dangerous moment is if you're dealing with a momma and piglets. I have personally been chased up a tree more than once! Most of the time though, they'll just turn and run away. Especially when shot.

#2 - Their sight is poor, their hearing is decent, and their noses are (I think) as good or better than a deer. My main bow hunting place here in East Texas is covered with them and has been for 10-15 years, so I'm talking from experience.

#3 - It is ILLEGAL to carry a firearm (rifle or handgun) during the Archery Only deer season. The game warden won't care to hear your excuse of "I'm hunting hogs". The rest of the year, it's legal.

and #4...

My solution to the bow hunting question is USE A LADDER STAND and bait out a spot. You'll have heck trying to find and stalk hogs on the ground.


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it is not illegal to carry a handgun during bow only if you have a CHL



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it is not illegal to carry a handgun during bow only if you have a CHL




Question, so it's not illegal if you have a CHL but can you legally kill a hog with the weapon ... while engaging in archery for deer?


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TEXASLEFTY is right, and I stand corrected.

I was not aware of the Concealed Handgun exception, but here it is: (from TPWD)

Archery and Crossbows
It is unlawful to be in possession of a firearm while hunting with a broadhead HUNTING point during the Archery-Only season, EXCEPT a person licensed to carry a concealed handgun in Texas may carry a concealed handgun.


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"Question, so it's not illegal if you have a CHL but can you legally kill a hog with the weapon ... while engaging in archery for deer?"

Use of handgun must be in strict accordance with CHL laws, predominantly covered in Chapter 9 of Penal Code. And there ain't mention in there of shooting pigs. In my not-so-humble opinion, closest thing applicable could possibly be be "Necessity", aka "Law of Competing Harms". CHL Instructor #6616


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so if the hog is charging and you are in imminent danger go ahead and dispatch the hog. would you use a two tap or keep firing until you no longer feel threatend. i've seen some people in situations with hogs and russian boar and mixes with bows were i was glad i had my 30/30 or .44 for close encounters especially with mama and her little one's. as for how smart they are they are like cock roaches and can adapt to any enviorment and will eat anything. it seems like you shoot one and 30 more pop up. my buddy has about a 3 acre inclosure on his 500 acre place that he keeps nothing but ferral hogs and we usually shoot about 5 a month for a bbq and such or give them to the ranchhands,but it seems like you just throw water on them and they reproduce like damn gremlins.



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This why we have our place flown every year. Even at the rate of kill from the air they still repopulate because of the short gestation period. And are they smart??? In a lot of ways especially if they've been shot at from the air and the next time they are approached they just stand perfectally still!!! You have to make very low level passes and try to guess where they are hold up! I think its called hide n' seek!!




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Had someone fly by our place saturday afternoon/evening, he was in his white helicopter, knew he was the local fly-by-shooter lol


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Hogs are very smart, they just get in trouble because of water, food, and sex.

They are a very tough and durable animal. They can be seem to be some of the easiest animals to hunt if they have not been hunted before, no pressure, but put a little pressure on them and you will have to work for it. It can be very rewarding, especially to take large trophy type boars.


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Are there any parts of the State of Texas that have solved their "hog problem"?

I keep thinking that with all the hunters in this State and the fact that one can just about hunt them any time, any where (with permission) with just about any weapon, why there are still so many of these hog out there?

Are they really that prolific and that smart?




There are two kinds of property in Texas those that have hogs and those that are going to get hogs .


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I don't think their eyesight is all that poor...I've ambled up on a wheat field 400 yards away and downwind and had them run like their a$$es were on fire.


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There just aint no stoppin em.

We've killed at least a good 55-60 pig's in the last six month's an we still cant get rid of em'.



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What I have trouble understanding, is if a rancher or farmer has a big problem with hogs taking over, why do they insist on charging a man & his boy to go onto his land to kill a couple of pigs for the freezer?? I live on the upper end of Lake Whitney & I know that there is an abundance of pigs all over the place, but mention to one of the old tight wads that you'd like to kill a couple to eat & they've sworn to me that they don't have any on their place & they don't allow anyone on their land to hunt!!!I wanna go kill a couple of medium sized pigs to carry to the locker plant, but I cannot find anyone that will let me on their place to shoot any! I'm a responsible 56 year old man that has hunted & fished most of my life & have been a landowner before myself! I respectfully treat a man's place like it were my very own as far as policing the area for trash & I make sure that there is not a shred of trash left by me or any gates left open or closed, whatever the case may be & I know where I am shooting at all times too! There are several huge ranches in my area, but unless you know someone on the inside, forget ever getting inside the gates on any of them!! If there is such a pig problem, seems that they'd wanna get all the help they could to help control them! Is it greed or do they honestly not trust anyone to take care of their place while hunting??


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something to think about. last week,( and no, i cant remember where i read it) but according to Game Wardens, on hogs, the current texas pop is 2 BILLION. the average sow has around 10 to 16 babies. although it is a SPORT hunting now, pretty soon, there will be no deer to hunt, cause the hogs have rooted them out and killed them. all you will be doing is feeding the hogs, and hoping a deer comes along. i know its a money thing for a lot of owners but, whats gonna happen to deer-hunting? Just thinking out loud. what yall think? it may be too late to control it with gun ,bow or trapping. I know that those 90--125 lbs are good eating. my son killed one at Cisco, we smoked it that night over mesquite. was awesome. its just the overpopulation dilema that is coming. Mr brisket.



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Heeler - your last question in your post above is probably true on both ends or real close. Most landowners probably USED to allow hunting on their lands, until those that were hunting didn't abide by a few simple rules (don't leave any trash, pick up your hulls, if the gates closed-close it behind you, if it's open-don't close it, don't stretch the barbed-wire strands by using them as steps in crossing-crawl under or go to the gate, etc.) and that there has made them unwilling to trust folks anymore. On the other hand, they do realize that now they have a resource, whether it be a game animal or a species causing problems, they will only let those willing to pay the price into to hunt them or have leased their land out already.

There ARE still landowners out there that will allow you to hunt for free, but you have to diligent and willing to knock on a whole lot of doors before getting access. Heck, I have over 3500 acres at my disposal for fishing, hunting and trapping which I was granted permission back in 2001 and have yet to do any duck, squirrel, deer hunting, trapping or fishing on it YET!! Sounds crazy to most of yall, but there's only so much time I can get away. I have done quite a bit of fish and wildlife management on their ranch, but nothing other than that. That may all change if gas prices don't go down, then I'll have a place within 20 minutes of the house to enjoy while saving gas money.

I wish I could help you out on the hog situation and if I DO hear of someone having problems, I'll pass it along to you. What town are you located in, becasue most of the problems I hear about may be in the south/central part of the state.


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thanks for the response, I live outside of Kopperl, Tx, that is on the upper end of Lake Whitney in central Texas. I don't come onto this site too often, I mostly hang out on TFF, my screen name is Hank1951 on there. Thanks for the headsup on telling me if you hear anything, Heeler


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Just one clarifacation to your statement:
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but according to Game Wardens, on hogs, the current texas pop is 2 BILLION.


the estimated number is 2 Million, not Billion, and the usual number per litter is 6 to 8, but they can have up to 3 litters in one year.


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Crazyhorse. Thanks. 2 million makes more sense to me. im not sure where the billion came from. but i believe that its going to be a real problem real soon/ and most likely the state will have to step in to control it because of money greed and need from landowners and lesses, cant blame anyone for thying to make ends meet nowdays, but what could happen is because of the uncontrollable situation that is unavoidable, unless more harvesting and trapping occurs , is that the states will step in and charge landowners a DISPOSITION FEE" which being interpted is a REVENUE' for the state to fund more programs that dont exist. Make no mistake about it! its mostly about money. Wait till you see a Hog tag on your license and in order to kill a hog, you have to PAY xtra money just to shoot it. Im telling you folks it is coming. we have to pay for highways, welfare checks and county hospital service for non-citizens sometimes, its seems better to be poor and have nothing, then everything is free to you. housing, foodstamps free medical.the list goes on. ok, ok, I off my soapbox. thanks. Mrbrisket.



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but i believe that its going to be a real problem real soon/ and most likely the state will have to step in to control it because of money greed and need from landowners and lesses, cant blame anyone for thying to make ends meet nowdays, but what could happen is because of the uncontrollable situation that is unavoidable, unless more harvesting and trapping occurs , is that the states will step in and charge landowners a DISPOSITION FEE" which being interpted is a REVENUE' for the state to fund more programs that dont exist. Make no mistake about it! its mostly about money. Wait till you see a Hog tag on your license and in order to kill a hog, you have to PAY xtra money just to shoot it. Im telling you folks it is coming. we have to pay for highways, welfare checks and county hospital service for non-citizens sometimes, its seems better to be poor and have nothing, then everything is free to you. housing, foodstamps free medical.the list goes on. ok, ok, I off my soapbox. thanks. Mrbrisket.




And just where are you getting this so-called 'information'? The feral hog is classified as an exotic species which DO NOT require tags, can be taken anytime 24/7, 365 days out of the year on private property. We have several non-game animals that do not require tags and can be taken the same way, coyotes are one of them and they'll never become extinct.

Your analogy compares certain programs to others and seems to me you have a beef about those as opposed to what you posted in the first place. There are stipulations that are completely out of anyone's control, even the TPWD when it comes to landower's allowing who, when, why, how much on their land to take the species...it has been like this for years and getting worst.

I really enjoyed your statement claiming the hogs will eat all of the deer...hmmm


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Thank you for bringing your usual level head to this discussion. The sky is not falling. And the TPW is not out to screw us all.


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does anyone know of a place to do guided cougar hunts?


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Hey all...new to the forum. I live in Ellis county and am looking for public land with a hog population. I figured this would be the place to get an answer.


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I'm new to the forum also (first post). Invited by jeh7mmmag. In Texas, we don't have a lot of open public land that anyone can hunt on. The state lands down here (South of San Antonio) are hunted by drawing only. We have a huge wild hog population down here. I've seen over a hundred in one herd, running across a field.

Other comments in this forum string were about litter size and intelligence. They average is around 6 to 8 in each litter. Not all make it to be grown animals. The can have around 3 litters a year, depending on food availability.

They are a general pest to ranchers. I've had them tear up round bales of hay to get at the grain inside, root up fields in search of nut grass tubers, eat cattle supplement from feeders or tubs. When I used to farm, they would go into freshly planted peanut fields and eat up to 4 or 5 acres of peanut seed a night (causing you to have to replant some areas). I've had them get into my vegetable fields and destroy squash, turnips, watermelons, cantaloupes, etc. They will totally destroy corn or grain sorghum fields.

That said…. they are my favorite wild game, as far as eating quality of the meat. I'll choose wild hog over everything (quail is second).

One other thing, concerning the last post by mrbrisket357: Money greed is not the main driving factor for lease hunting. (Note: there are specialty operations that are most probably owned by hunting companies that do it as big business, but I’m talking about the family farmer/rancher). Farming and ranching is not on “par” with the rest of the world as far as dollar income per invested dollar. Contrary to popular belief most farmers and ranchers are not wealthy people. They may be land rich, but they are struggling to make ends meet. Lease hunting, just supplements what has been about 30 years of declining agricultural income. Sometimes the lease money is the only profit for the year, or enough to help pay the land taxes.

As a land owner that allows almost no hunting, except for family members, my issue is privacy. That is the right of any private property owner. Most urban people wouldn't like someone they hardly know going into their back yards and using their BBQ pits or swimming pools, even if they asked permission.

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Are there any parts of the State of Texas that have solved their "hog problem"?

I keep thinking that with all the hunters in this State and the fact that one can just about hunt them any time, any where (with permission) with just about any weapon, why there are still so many of these hog out there?

Are they really that prolific and that smart?




There are two kinds of property in Texas those that have hogs and those that are going to get hogs .




i hunt near Ozona, TX... and there are 0 (zero) hogs and 0 (zero) coyotes in the entire area... they have not been heard or seen in decades, and the hogs never made it into the area... i don't know if it's because of the lack of water or maybe the javalina keep the habitat more suited for themselves... to be honest, i'd rather have hogs than javalina cuz they taste better.



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No hogs in my area of the panhandle - yet. Do think we will see them before too long.


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Thanks for info Curtis,
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New Texas Animal Health Commission (TAHC) regulations for moving LIVE feral swine will go into effect October 1.

I am providing the brochure text below, but if you need a supply of the free brochures for distribution, please let me know, and they'll be shipped immediately. Please provide the number of copies you need and a mailing address.
The brochure also is posted on the TAHC web site at http://www.tahc.state.tx.us

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Why does the Texas Animal Health Commission (TAHC) care about wild hogs?

The TAHC, the state's livestock and poultry health regulatory agency, is concerned about wild (feral) hogs because of the disease threats they pose to domestic cattle and swine herds. Tests on feral, or wild, hogs indicate that about 20 percent of these animals carry pseudorabies, a flu-like pig disease NOT related to rabies, and about 10 percent have swine Brucellosis, the swine form of Brucellosis or Bangs disease.

In 2007, the 80th Texas Legislature provided for the TAHC to regulate the movement of live feral swine, as a measure to control disease spread. The intent of these regulations is to allow the movement of wild hogs for hunting or slaughter, while protecting livestock from the disease risks posed by these animals.

Doesn't the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department (TPWD) regulate hog hunting?

Yes. The TPWD, an agency separate from the TAHC, requires the registration of hunting leases, where persons pay to hunt wild hogs. Sport hunters also must have a hunting license.

If a hunting ranch does NOT receive or release live wild hogs onto the property, the TAHC feral swine regulations do not apply to the operation.

When do the TAHC regulations apply?

The TAHC's regulations apply when LIVE WILD HOGS are moved from the premises where they were trapped or captured. The diagrams below show where the wild hogs may be moved. While awaiting transport, the feral swine may be held in the trap or in a pen for as long as 7 days. A number of pre-existing TAHC-approved holding facilities will continue in operation. These double-fenced facilities are intended to hold feral swine temporarily until a load of the animals can be assembled for shipping to their ultimate destination. Holding facilities must be constructed at least 200 yards from domestic swine pens, and be inspected by the TAHC.

There is no fee for an approved holding facility, but the operator must apply, and records must be maintained on the number and dates of feral swine being placed into and/or removed from the holding facility, the description of the animals and any identification devices, and where the animals were trapped. (To apply for an approved facility, contact your TAHC area office, or the TAHC headquarters at 800-550-8242.)

Allowing feral swine to escape from the approved holding facility, or the failure to maintain records, can lead to a penalty for violation of the rule and suspension or revocation of the approved holding facility status.

Texas has nearly three million feral swine, and increasing the population of these animals heightens the chance for disease transmission. Sows and gilts are not to be moved to hunting preserves. Although there are provisions for domesticating wild hogs for production, this practice is not encouraged. The preferred, ultimate destination for sows and gilts is slaughter.

Boars and barrows may be moved to a hunting preserve, feral swine holding facility, or to slaughter. Boars and barrows may be moved from traps or approved holding facilities to authorized hunting preserves that are fenced adequately to prevent swine from escaping under, over or through the fence. Prior to being released, these animals must have individual identification, approved by the TAHC. (Wild hogs hauled to slaughter from the holding facility do NOT need to be individually identified.)

Like the approved holding facilities, authorized hunting preserves must be approved and inspected by the TAHC, and there is no TAHC fee. Applications may be obtained from the nearest TAHC area office or by calling the TAHC headquarters. A current copy of the TPWD hunting lease license will be required.
Record keeping must be maintained, to include the dates, number, description and individual identification of wild boars and barrows released into the preserve, and those removed through hunting. Fences must be kept in good repair to prevent the escape of the boars and barrows.

A hunting preserve may lose its authorization if identified wild boars or barrows are detected outside the preserve fences.

What about the records?

Records maintained for approved holding facilities and authorized hunting preserves are to be kept by the facility operator, and made available for inspection by TAHC personnel.

Feeding swine:
To prevent potential disease transmission, feral swine and domestic swine are not to be fed garbage, which includes restricted garbage -- raw or cooked meat, meat scraps, or a commingled mixture of meat products or by-products with other food scraps.

Furthermore, Chapter 55.3 of the TAHC's regulations also prohibit feeding feral swine unrestricted garbage, identified as vegetables, fruits, dairy products, or baked goods.

Is there a penalty for disregarding the feral swine regulations?

The TAHC makes every attempt to obtain compliance by providing information and sound reasoning for protecting domestic livestock herds. However, the rules include both criminal and administrative penalties, which may be imposed for violations.

The TAHC feral swine regulations are based on Chapters 161.0412 and 161.1375 of the Texas Administrative Code (law). Noncompliance with movement requirements is a Class C misdemeanor, and repeat offenses are a Class B misdemeanor. Alternatively, the TAHC may address noncompliance with administrative penalties.

The text of the TAHC's feral swine regulations may be obtained on line on the TAHC website at http://www.tahc.state.tx.us; by emailing comments@tahc.state.tx.us; or by calling the TAHC's Public Information Office at 800-550-8242, ext 710.



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I'm in the Frisco area and looking for 1) close public land to hunt hogs & 2) good, cheap place to go for a day hunt nearby.( My Eastern friends and Dad when they visit. Love to get a hog w/ my bow this year. I do have the Management map book for this year just not sure witch one nearby is the best.



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In the last 4 years, they have easily tripled or quadrupled in population on our lease in Throckmorton county. I dispatched three this past month inside of 45 minutes, all huge boars. They can ruin a deer hunt fast!



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here's a website that shows how to estimate the weight of a hog



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???? what are hogs bringing per pound now a days???


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I've bowhunted them on bowhunting only ranches each January for the last 10 years and the demise of many has been their appetite for corn. Great noses, hear better than me and the ones I've hunted can recognize a man's silhouette before you're in bow range. Great animals to bowhunt and to eat!



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Helpful tip...IF, yes IF its possible..take out the sows FIRST....since they can pop out more babies then a boar lol cant blame you though if you have a boar tearing up feeders


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it is not illegal to carry a handgun during archery only season if you have a concealed handgun license. a buddy of mine carries one when he goes bow hunting he has muscular distrafy in his legs and cant run,barelly walk.so he found out about carrying a handgun during archery season.



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Heeler, we have over 40,000 free acres to hunt around Lake Whitney. They allow shotgun for hogs! I have never hunted it but know people that do successfully. I have threatened myself to hunt it every year just never have. My thoughts where to go by boat and come in on the backside of the Corp. land away from most pressure.



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I've noticed a lot of folks that have livestock don't want people on their land hunting. I guess they are practicing the "better safe, than sorry" routine.


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For 48 dollars you can get some license at the COE office and go to the North end of Ray Roberts on COE land and shoot all the hogs you can fit in your truck.
They will give you a map to show you all the access points and everything a man needs.


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Here is a good article by TPWD on piggies. Even shows trap making tips.

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/huntwild/wild/nuisance/feral_hogs/


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They did a fly over in the Cross Plains area couple days ago, in a small area from Cross Plains over to Rowden back up near Caddo Peak...over 250 pigs mostly in groups, dirt napped about 25. Article is in the Cross Plains paper, which is only printed about once a week, going to see if I can get a copy over there tomorrow.


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I'm new here, but have something to add, if that's okay. Some people think pigs are smart "barnyard" animals, cause they can use self feeders and waterers, and they will crap in the same place if penned up, lol. And if you ever cut yourself while gutting/skinning one(wild), you'll need special shots, cause they carry a bad bacteria. At least that's what they told me at the ER, when I was getting stitched up .



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They do & can carry brucellosis which humans can get from them. They may also carry pseudorabies which also requires medication if infected. We try to wear glove then cleaning them.

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Thanks Maggie! Yeah, brucellosis sounds like what the nurse lady said. That was about 10 years ago...



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I'd like to say hog are smarter than deer JMO !!!


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From what i learned in a class in high school and on the discovery channel, a hog is the second smartest land animal, and i believe it because of my experience with domestic hogs.


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Hogs are extremely smart! Alot of times they will migrate making it hard to pinpoint them. There have been several times when we have got on a good boar and he will go directly to a group of sows to try and get the dogs off of him. They know how to use the thickest thickets you can imagine to their advantage.


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Your not going to get rid of them, they continue to multiply every 90-120 days. All you can do is hunt the land you don't want them on, and that will keep them out for a little while just like any animal. Putting the pressure on them. And as far as hunting them from a helicopter....... That is a whole other story. I just think it's wrong if the they shoot and leave it lay...... That is not hunting. They need to hire hunters to take care of the issue. Which one of us would not like to get paid for doing something we love to do? Anyway...... I will get off my soapbox!



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Hogs are smart to an extent, but their hearing and eye sight are not good. Their nose is almost better than a deer, although you could walk right up on a hog and they can not see you when they are rooting or eating. Their head does not let them. I know they carry diseases, no different than deer or any wild animal. But if the meat is taken care of correctly, all diseases would be cooked out at cooking time.



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a lot of times, it is not about "hunting" the hogs, it is about eradicating, so i see no problem with letting people shoot them out of helicopters, as far as hiring hunters to kill them.... good luck. we have 3 different people that dog hunt all of our land, along with trapping, and i spotlight about every weekend. We still got em....


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My only thing is, and I know not all will agree with me........ but, I have trouble with shooting something and letting it lay. That is wasted meat that we could be feeding someone that is hungry.



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well no disrespect intended, and i also know that everyone will not agree, but i have a problem with non native animals destroying our property and costing my family thousands of dollars a year, not to say i dont butcher some, and i do usually try to give em away if they are trappedd, usually sell, and sometimes ill try to find a person to take one that i killed, but either way, if ilet the hogs lay, koons, coyotes, other hogs, something will eat it.


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they will multiply try big round pen style traps let me know and i can tell you how to build very easy you just got to build a door and then make the pen as big as you want



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I dont know about yall but i love it!!!Bought me one of them stainless marlin 44 mags and i just shoot em up.And they dont seem to run our deer off.


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Saw a video of hogs coming back to free a captured hog. The hunter(s) captured the hog with dogs and the other four hogs came back and basically attacked, freeing the hog and they all ran off.

Now, does that show intelligence? Of course, I have yet to meet one face to face, so I'm just speculating.


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can anyone give me advice im planning a hunt in missouri, dont know if any hogs are in the area can someone tell me what can be used to find out that aint that exspensive!



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can anyone help me on this?



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Contact some of the local farmers or feed stores. After all you are in MISERY.....



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thanks! anyone from missouri that can maybe help me out on this?



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Jeremiah,
This thread is for general information only.

Please read the PM I sent you on this.

It would be better to start your personal thread so that the replies can be specific.

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I will be honest, we are to blame.

This was a problem that at one time was only geographicly specific to Deap East Texas, untill some real idiots decided there so much fun to hunt they would trap them and relocate them. this is how they spread so quickly in the mid to late 90s and prety much became unstopable in the early 2000's

I understand landowners frustration, with people not respecting there land I have helped several folks out whom had probelms with them, and people in the past tearing up there proprty. But if your a landowner and there on your place and your doing nothing to rid them, your part of the problem.

These things have caused way to much destruction, as of late here in East Texas there was over 5mil in ag damage in one county alone last year. One city Jacksonville was overrun so much so where Police were have to respond to calls inside city limits to kill hogs with there sidearms because of the public danger they posed. Eventually there were as many as 50 trps inside city limits.

This is a big problem that will take everybody working together, the State working with landowners, landowners working with hunters and so forth.




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What I like about hunting hogs is that I don't even have to have a hunting license to hunt them on our private land.
Also, we spotlighted hogs so much, they started running around in the daytime quite a bit. I just love spotlighting hogs.



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Hello my hunter brotheren i have recently moved to the greatest state in the greater 48. Texas that is and Houston to be more exact. Well i have been hearing about this feral hog epidemic and im very eager to play my role. I currently have my hunter education certification and about 19 yrs of hunting experience.Extensive deer,waterfowl,upland birds and turkey hunting in FL, and MO. but im ready for some serious hog hunting and i have been told i moved to the right place. I would really like to go on a dog hunt with bowies but dusk/dawn/night time food plot and feeder hunts look like a blast. If anyone out there could help point me in the right direction or resource im on a limited budget and cannot afford guided hunts that are worth a car payment.I currently do not know anyone with private land and I would rather not hunt public land , safety for me is top priority.


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I was just wondering about how many guys eat part of the pig or just leave it where it falls. What would be the ratio??


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id venture to say from what everyone says on the forum, and what i know of people doing, 90% leave em most of the time. why dont u start a thread witha poll? it will get fun


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I live north of dallas and we have them in abundance.
We keep our freezers full and give them away when we can.
Sometimes we let them lay where they fall.
Most of the land owners are just happy to get rid of them.
BTW The meat is great. I like it better than store bought.
Get most of it ground, use it where i usually use ground beef.
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Originally Posted By: BlackHawkCazador
Hello my hunter brotheren i have recently moved to the greatest state in the greater 48. Texas that is and Houston to be more exact. Well i have been hearing about this feral hog epidemic and im very eager to play my role. I currently have my hunter education certification and about 19 yrs of hunting experience.Extensive deer,waterfowl,upland birds and turkey hunting in FL, and MO. but im ready for some serious hog hunting and i have been told i moved to the right place. I would really like to go on a dog hunt with bowies but dusk/dawn/night time food plot and feeder hunts look like a blast. If anyone out there could help point me in the right direction or resource im on a limited budget and cannot afford guided hunts that are worth a car payment.I currently do not know anyone with private land and I would rather not hunt public land , safety for me is top priority.
Shoot me a PM. We are going to do some hog hunts starting in Feb. You can do a 2 1/2 day hunt all for $75 and shoot all you want. Stands and feeders already in place. Located in E Tx. 3 to 4 hrs from Houston.


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Get a utillity knife and cut it down the spine. Split them open and cut out the tenderlions. Use a utillity knife-razor blade. There hide will dull a knife in no just getting through there hide. best part is you get 2 huge chunks of meat you can slice up and throw right on the grill. Best part it's free!

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Hog prices remaining steady in Texas
“The demand has remained pretty steady,” said Allen Gilbert, sales manager of Frontier Meats in Fort Worth. “This is really the busy time of year because a lot of hunters are out in the field and are catching the hogs. We are seeing some that are in real good shape and others that are in real poor shape — it just depends on the range conditions.” Just like any other market, the price for live feral hogs fluctuates with the economy. Estimated prices for the live hogs starts at about $5 per head for animals that weigh from 50 to 59 pounds (nothing under 50 pounds is accepted); about 13 cents per pound for those in the 60 to 79 pound range; and about 25 cents per pound for hogs weighing 80 to 99 pounds.

Processors pay a premium of about 35 cents per pound, plus a $5 to $10 per head bonus, for hogs weighing 150 to 249 pounds; and any boar or sow topping 250 pounds brings in about 45 to 50 cents per pound plus at least a $10 per head bonus.
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Contact TPW...they did a fly over by helicopter/shotguns--will take em all out. Did a place by our lease early January and took out appx 750 in a weekend...There is a pretty good waiting list...


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I'm new to this forum, but I just got back from the Dallas area (Mesquite, Rowlett, Commerce, etc.) visiting my new in-laws and you could see the hog damage just by driving the main roads around Commerce. . .

. . .my new PaPaw said I should come back in the summer when I'm finished building my 6.8 AR15 and he'd hook me up with his neighbor who runs them with dogs all the time. . .suffice to say the first thing I did when I got home yesterday was to order my barrel, bolt, and carrier assembly!!! Now I just need to order the buttstock, lower parts, railed forearm, compensator, and scope and I'll be set. . .should be a really sweet hog gun. . .6.8 SPC built around a MegaMachine billet upper/lower reciever (M4 style with forward assist) and an AR15 Performance (one of the main developers of the caliber) 16" stainless steel barrel (from a PacNor blank), 9810 alloy SuperBolt and bolt carrier assembly. . .I'm chomping at the bit to get back in TX and shoot some hogs!!!

My $.02 on hogs. . .you'll never get rid of them. . .there are now small herds/packs being seen even up here in Washington state. . .mainly in the Wynoochee (sp???) area. . .the Washington Fish & Wildlife are hell-bent on eradicating them and want real time reports any time anyone sees them. . .that being said they are really tight lipped about them and won't pass info on about where they are. . .i.e. they deny their existence in WA state, but too many people have seen them for it not to be true. The terrain and environment up here would be ideal for them, but they would destroy the eco-system and our deer and elk populations would be devestated. . .would probably help the black bear and cougar population though. . .

. . .I have heard a lot about the difficulties of hunting in TX with all the hunting leases etc. and that was the #2 reason why my girl and I decided not to move down to TX. . .more than half of Washington is public land and the game is abundant. . .I don't want to move somewhere I will have to pay a ridiculous amount to get access to land or participate in canned hunts. . .

. . .not trying to be offensive because I really liked it while I was down there, just the access thing is ridiculous. . .I primarily only wanna hunt hogs and predators say maybe it wouldn't be as bad for me, but then again it sounds like it might be just as difficult especially with the sudden popularity of predator hunting. . .

. . .any tips for hunting the hogs in the Dallas area? I'm gonna get one of the 5-day non-resident hunting licenses while I'm down there and hopefully I'll get a hound hunt, but that's not guaranteed as of now.

Thanks!


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hey guys,im out here in stephenville, TX (Erath county) and i was wondering if anybody knew of a place to go hog hunting out here?


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Added this article to the very first post. It has some good Box, and Corral trap links in it.
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New feral hog publications aim to help landowners thwart growing menace




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Guys if yall have too many hogs i have a huge number of fatherless boys and teens who would love to hunt them.Lets turn a bad situation into a life changing one.GAONOW.com


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Hello all Texas Hog hunters. We here at West Coast Telemetry would like to introduce ourselves. We build a tough tracking collar that is cast in acryllic. We have a special going on our webpage of $105 for each collar. If you have any questions please call us at 1-800-833-8236 and see us at our webpage at www.westcoasttelemetry.com. welcome


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Corral Traps for Capturing Feral Hogs
Capture Techniques
•Recognizing Feral Hog Sign
•Snares (Learn how to build your own HERE)
•Box traps
•Corral traps
•Bait types (coming soon)
•Firearms
http://pcwp.tamu.edu/FeralHogs/CaptureTechniques.aspx



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does anyone know of a place to do guided cougar hunts?


Try 'Billy Bobs' on a Friday Night..... smile


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If you have a facebook account do a search for Compadre Hunts, They offer reasonable rates on all their hunts. I know they have a place in Columbus, TX. just about an one hour drive from Houston. We got our fill of pork and excitement.



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Originally Posted By: FM-Mark
Saw a video of hogs coming back to free a captured hog. The hunter(s) captured the hog with dogs and the other four hogs came back and basically attacked, freeing the hog and they all ran off.

Now, does that show intelligence? Of course, I have yet to meet one face to face, so I'm just speculating.


got a link to that video, please?


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when did hunting become a rich mans sport


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Coping With Feral Hogs
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Is it illegal to kill a hog a sell the cooked meat?


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I am wandering that as well. I am just getting in to hunting I did hunt a a kid, and it all seems so expensive now. To even go I eather have to go on public lands or Pay some one the big bucks that I can not affo4red a on Teachers salary.




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New Kid on the Block.

Is there public land in the Denton area where I can hunt.


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Is it illegal to kill a hog a sell the cooked meat?


Its not recognized as a game animal. Based on that I would say no. I'm sure someone will have the correct answer soon.


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So I've been reading about this hog problem... This might not be the "fix all" solution, but I'm an active duty Marine looking to fill my freezer with meat. I'm stationed near Houston and I can drive pretty much anywhere in Texas to kill a few hogs. Please PM me if I can help you out (or vice versa)! Thanks in Advance!

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Hey guys Im new at trapping hogs, and Im looking for locations to sell them live once I do. I live in North Dallas, and I would be ok with driving 1-2 hours to drop them off. Any info would be much appreciated!!


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Are we really that scared of hunting pigs we are going to get a CHL to go bow hunting. I live 200 yards from where I bait pigs in and enjoy shooting them with my bow. A side arm is a good piece of mind. I dont argue that. I have never in four years and more than a hundred hunts have ever relied on my side arm to get me out of trouble at 1am in total darkness, because of a pig. I am more scared of trespassers and poachers. Yes a pig will charge we know that. To the question are pigs smart? Thats realative to the hunter. Be aware of your surroungings. Did you come to bow hunt or not? There is inherited risk in all that we love. Love it dont fear it.


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okay so do i need a license to trap and transport wild hogs from other peoples property and here in san antonio can i sell them or get rid of them


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Hey guys Im new at trapping hogs, and Im looking for locations to sell them live once I do. I live in North Dallas, and I would be ok with driving 1-2 hours to drop them off. Any info would be much appreciated!!


There's a place in Allens Chapel (East of Bonham) that is buying hogs. Probably about 1.5 hours from Dallas.

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Add that to the tendency for them to move at night and a limited amount of predators willing to take on the onslaught of an adult hog.








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If you know any good public spots or private land we could get permission on my buddies and I would love to come take some out for you. We just cant seem to find the good spots.


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March 24, 2011 -
Busting feral hog myths
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I think there is a TPW list of approved "swine stations" I knwo there is one near our place in Malone, Tx, a little more than an hour from Dallas. There has to be one closer though.


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The very last post in the Feral Swine buying station post has a # you can call and the lady will tell you where their locations are....


Southern Wild Game pays the best... Make sure the buyer for them aint shorting you though.....



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We use conibare traps on our ranch. They work well with coyotes, bobcats. Do they work on feral hogs?



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As this is the Feral Hog Information Thread I thought you might be interested in the Texas Humane Legislation Network's current anti feral hog hunt campaign.

http://www.thln.org/index.cfm?pageID=2CE9E0C9-3048-C277-11C397C794AD5C85

They are relentless. Any position taken by them is always with a goal of zero animal use.


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Helicopter Hog Hunting in Texas Made Safer with Industry Leading Aerial Safety Course

Texas is home to a serious feral hog problem; nearly 3.4 million at the last count ranking as the largest feral hog population in the nation. Feral hogs wreak havoc and cause extensive damage to property, livestock, crops and pastures across the state. The Texas Agri-Life Extension Service estimates that statewide annual economic damage caused by feral hogs is near $400 million and expected to worsen in the years ahead.

In an effort to help control this ever increasing population of feral hogs, the State of Texas allows certain helicopter operators to provide aerial hunting of feral hogs under permit from the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department. Current laws allow for private landowners to contract for a helicopter service to perform this aerial hunting service, but the landowner, or any other hunter they may designate, is not allowed to shoot the hogs from the aircraft.

“There are about 170 permits that have been issued to companies in Texas who are authorized to provide aerial hog eradication” states Mike Morgan, President of Houston-based Vertex Helicopters “Unfortunately, many landowners find that the rates for hiring a helicopter are too costly, so they try to hunt the hogs on their own from the ground, which is slow and cumbersome, and honestly doesn’t even make a dent in the population.”

The State of Texas is voting on a bill that will allow for a change in the laws regarding the hunting of feral hogs from a helicopter which will authorize the land owner, or the land owner’s “agent” (ie, private hunters) to actually hunt from the helicopter. This will essentially allow the landowner to “sell the hunter seat”, making it much more affordable to pay for the helicopter services.

“We fully support this Bill, but we see a number of potential problems arising when it passes. Our helicopters are flown by highly trained pilots, and the gunners are trained specifically to perform aerial hunting from a helicopter. This isn’t something that the average hunter is trained to do.” states Morgan. “Hunting from a helicopter requires strict coordination with the pilot, and also requires many different skill sets that are vastly different than normal hunting techniques. We're not exactly shooting from a pickup truck. Shooting from a helicopter isn’t as easy as people think.”

Vertex has developed an Aerial Hunter Safety Course that is specific to hunters who would be hiring a helicopter service to hunt hogs. "This isn’t your normal ‘Hunting Class’, either." continues Morgan, "This is an intensive safety course that will prepare the hunter to be able to know everything that they need to know about shooting from a helicopter, what do to in case of an emergency, and even helps them to understand the liability implications of worst case scenarios.”

"What happens if they accidentally shoot a rotor blade? What happens if they drop a magazine and it goes through the tail rotor? Things like this can destroy a helicopter. If it happens, who is liable? Our course gives the hunter detailed guidance on everything from the type of helicopter to contract, the best choice of weapon, how to shoot effectively, how to communicate with the pilot, and state laws governing hunting from a helicopter. The most important part of our training course is the hands-on actual firing from the helicopter at ground targets while the helicopter is moving.”

“We look forward to seeing this bill pass, but we feel strongly that there need to be very strict safety parameters put in place. Many of these aircraft cost in excess of $300,000, so if a hunter isn’t operating safely, or accidentally causes damage to a helicopter or injures someone then it’s all over the news with negative publicity. Our goal is to help prevent these problems and to make helicopter hunting a safe venture.”

Vertex Helicopters offers their Aerial Hunting Safety Course at least one weekend per month at a cost of $350 per attendee. The course is an all-day course with 4 hours of classroom instruction in the morning and hands-on training in the helicopter on an active range during the afternoon. Each class is limited to 12 people to keep the instruction more concentrated, resulting in more interaction and additional time for hands-on training. Depending on the location, VERTEX Helicopters will travel with one of the aircraft to perform the classes for larger groups at remote locations when scheduling allows.

VERTEX Helicopters is a full service helicopter company located at 8888 W. Monroe Rd at Hobby Airport in Houston, Texas. They can be reached at (281) 616-5095 or you can visit their website at http://www.vertexhelicopters.com or email them directly at info@vertexhelicopters.com.


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The .458 SOCOM Advanced Weapons System is great hog medicine. Especially with 20 round magazines.


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Is it possible to ship young feral hogs to other states? I am in Oregon, and have been tempted to acquire one or two. I suppose it would be desirable to get young ones that were born in captivity.

I apologize if this information has been posted elsewhere on this forum.

Thank you,

Doug


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slug if your wnting wild hogs just turn some ffa hogs out it want be long and they will be everywhere.ranchers might cut your throat



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Beginning in September the “Pork Chopper” bill will allow landlandowners and hunters to hunt feral hogs and from helicopter. This form of hunting/eradication is currently prohibited in Texas unless the helicopter company is licensed by Texas Parks and Wildlife Department for feral hog eradication.

So have you ever wanted to HUNT HOGS while FLYING in a HELICOPTER?
VERTEX Helicopters has an AERIAL HUNTING SAFETY COURSE designed to inform hunters on the necessary skills and situational awareness they will need to effectively hunt during flight.

This Aerial Hunting SAFETY Course is MANDATORY for any hunters who wish to partake in Aerial Hunting with VERTEX come September. Hunters who take this course prior to September will be given priority on future hunting dates.

For more information go to: http://vertexhelicopters.com/feralhog.html


WANT TO SHOOT HOGS FROM A HELICOPTER?
TAKE YOUR HUNTING SKILLS TO A NEW LEVEL WITH VERTEX HELICOPTERS AERIAL HUNTING SAFETY COURSE AND AERIAL HOG ERADICATION PROGRAM.
http://vertexhelicopters.com/feralhog.html
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Hi All
I am looking for wild hogs with volume every month, If you have wild hogs pls contact me at houstxdragon@yahoo.com.
I pay 40 cents per lb size 60 lbs and up. I locate in houston
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how much can you sell to us? pls email me at houstxdragon@yahoo.com thanks


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I think part of the reason is thier reproduction rate is incredible. Also that Texas has an estimated hog pop. of 2 million and one sow takes 7-8 months to begin reproduction and one sow can reproduce 1000+ piglets in a 5 year period
http://www.texasboars.com/articles/facts.html


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Has anyone hunted the public lands in Fannin County



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Buying 10-30 wild hogs on a regular basis (weekly). (.50/lb). lives in northwest Arkansas. Willing to travel to the borderline of southern Oklahoma and Northern Texas. I'm slaughtering and smokin' them hogs here to sell to the Asian community. If anyone is looking to sell their hogs, email (leon_boi1983@yahoo.com) or call 479-233-9563. Leon


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Greetings,
I live on 150 acres South of Austin that's been in the family since 1829.
First, let me say the drought is really bad and probably has something to do with it..please comment.

Haven't seen a rattlesnake this year - anywhere nearby. I'm told the hogs home in on the rattles and eat the snakes. Actually, only killed a few coperheads and one coral snake this year, whereas I usually have a "snake a day" on copperheads and kill dozens each year.

Had hundreds of turkeys around here...HAD.
Now I see small groups of 3 to 5 but NO little turkeys.

Deer seem to be doing OK as I still see them regularly.

Never see any Bobwhites anymore but I think the fireants killed them.

Also heard that the pigs are killing coyotes but can't confirm that.

What do you think folks?



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Ok, Im a finance major, so I know about doubling effects. If you have sows sexually mature at 1.5 years old (which is way conservative, its is actually around 12 months in domestic swine) and having a 18% increase in population annually, that is actually doubling every 2.25 years, not every five like the article says.


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You can hunt corp of engineer land at Lake Whitney by going and getting a permit. They have a set of rules you have to follow but it does not cost you to hunt there.


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Now scheduling flights, shooting hogs from a helicopter. Thousands of acres of hog infested land waiting for you to save from over population of feral hogs. Land owners are desperate to get rid of the destructive, diseased, and elusive feral hogs who root up cropland, root up seeds, destroy crops and property. Feral hogs reproduce exponentially every year and there is no end in sight. We are accepting bookings for helicopter Feral Hog Depredation flights within a one hundred mile radius of Houston. We are a helicopter service company and we provide feral hog control for land owners in Texas. If you think you would like to experience the thrill of shooting feral hogs from a helicopter contact us for a list of requirements to qualify. barnhill_jim@yahoo.com


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Ok, Im a finance major, so I know about doubling effects. If you have sows sexually mature at 1.5 years old (which is way conservative, its is actually around 12 months in domestic swine) and having a 18% increase in population annually, that is actually doubling every 2.25 years, not every five like the article says.


Nutrition plays a very large role in how often sows breed and in the size of their litters. Domestic swine are generally quite pampered in comparison to feral hogs. A domestic pig can easily be weighing around 250-275 Lbs around age six months. (reference: http://www.epa.gov/agriculture/ag101/porkphases.html) It probably takes a feral hog at least 2-3 years to gain that much weight. When times are tough, like this year's drought in Texas, sows will have fewer and smaller litters than normal. Even in good times they will have less offspring than domestic swine. The average is about 1.5 litters per year, with 5-6 piglets per litter. (reference: http://feralhogs.tamu.edu/frequently-asked-questions-wild-pigs/)



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Heeler, we have over 40,000 free acres to hunt around Lake Whitney. They allow shotgun for hogs! I have never hunted it but know people that do successfully. I have threatened myself to hunt it every year just never have. My thoughts where to go by boat and come in on the backside of the Corp. land away from most pressure.


The problem is that you cannot use any shot larger than #2 bird shot. Shooting a hog with bird shot is only going to piss him off. Since it is illegal to carry a handgun on Corp Land, you better be in shape to climb a tree if you pepper a hog with #2 bird shot.


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Originally Posted By: HELICOPTER HOG HUNTER

Beginning in September the “Pork Chopper” bill will allow landlandowners and hunters to hunt feral hogs and from helicopter. VERTEX Helicopters


First, Shooting pigs from a helicopter is NOT HUNTING. In fact, it is simply killing for the sport of killing. Ask any Indian how well that worked out for the buffalo in the U.S.
I don't care if they are just pigs, killing for the sport of killing is unethical and just plain wrong. There is a special place in Hell reserved for somebody who runs a company that promotes this type of activity.
If you are not going to eat what you kill, then don't kill it. There is no gray area.



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How about if it is kill them before the stop you from being able to produce food they are not a native speices (unlike buffalo)and will eat anything.


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The four-page
“Using Fences to Exclude Feral Hogs from Wildlife Stations”
publication was developed by Texas A&M University System and U.S. Department of
Agriculture Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service wildlife experts. It
provides advice and direction on how landowners can protect corn and protein
pellets intended for wildlife from being eaten by feral hogs.

The new publication may be downloaded from the Texas AgriLife Bookstore website
at http://agrilifebookstore.org or Plum Creek Watershed Partnership website at
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It is not a grey area...it's black and white. Pigs are devastating to our(my)properties. They reproduce faster than any larger mammal in North America. And once they are rooted, literally, into an area there is no way of getting rid of them. So, if you don't have them on your property, then your right is to feel that way regarding these demons. Our right as landowners is to kill as many as quickly as possible. If it takes helicopters to do so, then pile up the carcasses and let the coyotes and worms have them. They have destroyed quail, turkey, and my best friends lambs. The things are invasive, unnatural omnivores and we hate them. So, whatever some think of hunting them from planes, trains and automobiles and the ethics of it is your business. How I handle my "hog problem" is damn sure my business.


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Say a guy want to trap on his property to sell to a federal approved swine buying station. What are the steps?



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Rabbit fever and Feral Hogs
Steve Presley, a zoonotic disease researcher at TIEHH, leads a team of researchers that tested about 130 feral hogs from Crosby, Bell and Coryell coun-ties. Of the animals tested, 50 percent of the Crosby County pigs and 15 percent of the central Texas pigs showed evidence of current or past infection with Francisella tularensis.

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i might be barking up a bad tree here, but im trying to find some different areas all around texas i can go for hogs. its funny that when looking online to go hofggin, every wants cash, but there such a problem other people are paying to have them killed. is there any middle ground on this? any info would be great. you can hit me up on here or feel free to email me at bowrider84@gmail.com thanks guys


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Plum Creek Watershed Feral Hog Project
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•Feral Hog Disease Concerns
Download presentations with voice-overs to learn more about regulations and disease concerns




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There is a new online resource for feral hogs,

the eXtension Feral Hogs Community of Practice at http://www.extension.org/feral_hogs. This is a nationwide online resource with experts contributing information from across the country. In the Feral Hogs Community of Practice you will find information on biology, history, damage, control methods, and many other important aspects associated with feral hogs. There is also an AgriLife Today news article, http://today.agrilife.org/2012/06/11/feral-hog-cop/, that provides information on what the Feral Hogs Community of Practice is and what can be found at the site. Please take a look at the new Feral Hogs Community of Practice and let everyone who you think would be interested know about it.



Thanks,

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Say a guy want to trap on his property to sell to a federal approved swine buying station. What are the steps?


We trap them, load them and haul them to a buyer. We unload them on the scales and then they cut a check. Nothing to it.


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I was wandering if any of you hog hunters might would give me a couple hogs. I'm handicapped and can't go after them anymore. I want to make some klobása (simular to Eckrege sausage.) If anybody will fix me up. I can meet you and pick them up. I'll even make you up some to. Then all you have to do is smoke them. Thanks.....Chuck. I'm willing to buy a couple if their cheap enough and I can pick them up

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I got into town about 330 this morning and my son shot a pig about 6 o'clock yesterday evening with the cold temperatures last night do y'all think the meat is still good.

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This is great. Just like the age old question: Which is smarter, the pig or the horse?


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Hogs will go nocturnal quicker too. Still, that's why we have glow sticks and spot lights.


And Moultrie night-cams. Mine has found me most of my hogs since I bought it. elmer

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I'm looking to go on a hog hunt. I live in College Station and don't mind driving a little ways. If anyone has a hog problem please send me a PM or if you know of a place to hog hunt. I'm also looking to shoot varmints as well. Thank you...

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I'm looking to go on a hog hunt. I live in College Station and don't mind driving a little ways. If anyone has a hog problem please send me a PM or if you know of a place to hog hunt. I'm also looking to shoot varmints as well. Thank you...

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well hello folks,

I've been wanting to go hog hunting for a long time. I get down to Tyler Texas now often and if there are any hog opportunities in that area (around Smith County but not necessarily in that specific country) please let me know here.

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is there anyone that is buying feral hogs?

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I would love to have a small hog for smoking! 125 pounds max. In fact I would love to have a few of them. If anyone has shot a few let me know. I will pick up.

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I recently learned that a nearby land owner let several domestic pigs loose a few mile south of my families land in Oklahoma. I hope it is just a rumor. But, based off of the people saying it I do not doubt that it happened. A hunting group from Oklahoma City purchased some land. So far they have done several stupid things. they wend down to the river bottom and cut all the old standing blackjack but left the cedar trees and the cottonwoods! do they understand anything?

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I keep a hog hunter with dogs very busy from jan. to August!!!

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There are hogs everywhere in Texas

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Hey guys, native Texan here, but lived in Idaho for quite some time now. A couple buddies and myself want to hop in a truck with nothing but guns and bullets to shoot some hog. Problem is, I need to know some hot spots or if anyone on here has some private land infested with hog they would let us hunt? Any help would be greatly appreciated and I can return the favor if any one has questions on game or hunts up here. Thanks

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I agree! flehan

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Texas Feral Hog Holding Facilities and buyers, LIVE PIGS ONLY
http://www.tahc.state.tx.us/animal_health/swine/FeralSwineFacilities.pdf

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We trapped 95 in a week "5 traps" Fairy,Tx Hamiliton county to wake up Sunday morning with 62 in our pasture of winter oats!!
and I promise they can here your safety or spot light click at 100yrs! Best way to hunt them is full moon, glow sticks, hot Sow Scent on your boots, Big Bore pistol in your hand w/ night sights and a big sharp knife when they're too close!

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I hunted in north lampassas county for 18 years and never seen a pig, I now hunt close to the red river and back in September pigs started showing up on game cams, the second weekend in October we go up and hunt and i shoot one that Saturday evening, next morning i am hunting again and they come back to the feeder and they wind me.Now we check our game pics 2 weeks later and the pigs are gone. Do these pigs have circuits they follow or do they hang out in a single area?

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awesome info, thanks!

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wildboartracker.com is a website used to track boars.

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I hunted in north lampassas county for 18 years and never seen a pig, I now hunt close to the red river and back in September pigs started showing up on game cams, the second weekend in October we go up and hunt and i shoot one that Saturday evening, next morning i am hunting again and they come back to the feeder and they wind me.Now we check our game pics 2 weeks later and the pigs are gone. Do these pigs have circuits they follow or do they hang out in a single area?


On my lease the pigs come and go. We may see them on camera for a week or so and then they scatter someplace else for a while. Its usually about 3 weeks before we see them again. There are lots of feeders around us, and I think it relates to water. The only water nearby is a creek about a quarter mile off the property, lots of travel back and forth by deer and hogs.


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On my old lease the hogs would go round robin between the feeders. Sometimes you get the whole sounder, other times somebody else is complaining.

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I see a couple of post about buying pigs out of state. I think it is illegal to carry them across state lines without some sort of brucellosis test, but not sure about this .... ???

I do know hogs eat snakes, birds, squirrels ... ANYTHING!! Drought and loss of habitat are the major reasons for the reduction in the quail population and the reason turkey are not propagating well in east Texas.


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I have family and friends coming down from ohio late January and they are looking to do some Dog hog hunting.
In the east Texas area any one no of a outfitter that that could handle there will be 5 hunters for 3or 4 hunts

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Originally Posted By: A. Iceman
I have family and friends coming down from ohio late January and they are looking to do some Dog hog hunting.
In the east Texas area any one no of a outfitter that that could handle there will be 5 hunters for 3or 4 hunts


We run some dogs and also do night vision hunts. located in North East Texas by Bonham. If you're interested shoot me a PM.

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lots of good info here


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I live in Montana and my job is selling Montana ranches for sale but I own a ranch In Montague County. I bring client groups down to fish and hunt pigs. We have a lot of pigs but it is always hit or miss on any given trip. They are incredibly disappointed if they don't get to shoot at some. It is so funny because these guys up here get so hyped up about pigs and fishing for largemouth. I think pigs just travel. Sometimes I see multiple groups of 50 pigs and then sometimes I don't see any at all. If you have fresh rooted up ground that is a pretty good sign you have them on your place at that time. Game Cameras are a God send. Drones would be even better I bet. Would a drone be legal for pigs? I would sure think so. If you can hunt out of a helicopter you should be able to spot with a drone?


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We actually trap, dog hunting, and helicopter hunts and we can't seem to control them. I don't know the long term solution for this or if there is one.


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Originally Posted By: Montana Ranches
Drones would be even better I bet. Would a drone be legal for pigs? I would sure think so. If you can hunt out of a helicopter you should be able to spot with a drone?


From TPWD Outdoor Annual 2016-2017:

"Remote-controlled Hunting
A person may not engage in computer-assisted remote hunting of any animal or bird or provide or operate facilities for computer-assisted remote hunting if the animal or bird being hunted is located in Texas."

Would the remote control device be considered a computer assisting device? In my nonlegal opinion, yes. The drones with the weight capacity to handle a firearm, optics, cameras and firing control devices, are normally controlled via a tablet and cost in the thousands of dollars range. Plus you have the liability issues of controlling where the bullet travels, property lines, limited field of view, and handling of the recoil.

That's assuming you mean having a gun attached to the drone.

I am not a lawyer but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once.

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I think he was saying to use the drones just for spotting no?

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GW says its ok to carry during bow!!!

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Originally Posted By: J.Monaghan
GW says its ok to carry during bow!!!
it's been that way for a while now. You can have a rifle with you while bow hunting just for hogs or anything but deer.

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Wonder also if spotting pigs w drone is legal...not looking to attach a gun to it.


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Feral hogs can be quite smart IMHO especially the adult ones. They're quite good avoiding hunters especially with their sense of smell. Though sometimes, you'll be surprised on how easily you can catch them. So its probably they're easy to spot or really hard to find.

I've asked our local outfitter about their behavior and he said that feral hogs are indeed intelligent but sometimes their heightened senses at night can get the best of them against a hunter who knows how they behave.

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Drones can’t be used for game animals. I would call the GW first so there is no misunderstanding


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Heres a good complete guide to hog hunting. It covers their physical traits, their search for food, how well they hear / see / smell, how to find them, equipment to use, hunting methods, and more. It's a good well-rounded article on hog hunting.

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Originally Posted by a777pilot
This is great. Just like the age old question: Which is smarter, the pig or the horse? I always picked the pig. Ya don't see them with cowboys on their backs all day, do you?

Let us not overlook the fact that people penned and ate the pigs. Personally, of the two animals…I’d rather be the horse. up

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Four or five of us looking for an open range hog hunt near/in Fayette county at the end of March. Any help sourcing a ranch/guide is appreciated.

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Nice post...the article is very complete and helpful


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The key points seem to be that with a valid hunting license, you can hunt feral hogs with long guns and bows from dawn to dusk in most state/national parks, as long as don't bait, don't blind, and wear a blaze orange cap and vest. No permit or tag is needed, and you don't need a license to hunt them on private land.

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Originally Posted by SamShooter
Feral hogs can be quite smart IMHO especially the adult ones. They're quite good avoiding hunters especially with their sense of smell. Though sometimes, you'll be surprised on how easily you can catch them. So its probably they're easy to spot or really hard to find.

I've asked our local outfitter about their behavior and he said that feral hogs are indeed intelligent but sometimes their heightened senses at night can get the best of them against a hunter who knows how they behave.


I agree with you 100%. I’ve gone to some heavily hog-populated leases and have seen fresh signs of the hogs but NO hogs in sight. The last one I killed on that property I was walking at a pretty normal stride, ready to give up on my “spot and stalk†and there was a boar about 25 yards away, DOWNWIND with his head down eating. Crazy. Sometimes I think it is mostly just luck.


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Originally Posted by Ramsey
Drones can�t be used for game animals. I would call the GW first so there is no misunderstanding


Actually you can with the right permits from the state and landowner. Aerial Management Permit (AMP) and a Land Owner Authorization (LOA).

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