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Oklahoma Deer Lease - so an Elk shows up? #2521719 08/21/11 07:39 PM
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We just found out that the high fence on our north border had a tornado hit it a couple years ago and some Elk and trophy Whitetails got out. I know in Texas an Elk is considered an exotic.

1) anyone know the Oklahoma rules for Elk?

2) if legal, would you shoot it? if you were the neighbor that had this $5k Elk get out what would you expect the neighbor to do if they saw it? I can see right after it happened giving them a call and offering them a chance to get it back. 2 years is a little long though.

if it is on your land, eating your corn, then you should be able to take it without hard feelings.


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Oklahoma has an elk season, call Oklahoma department of wildlife.

We had a bunch get in our corn in the panhandle called the GR he said Oklahoma has a season....but Texas didn't.. Found out they where watering on a piece of land I owned on the Texas side. Once the crossed the line we took three of the 15 cows... The rest hauled arse headed south west. Never saw them again. But the three we took sure tasted good.



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interesting, I didn't see anything listed on the Oklahoma site, but I guess not wide known.


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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Oklahoma has an elk season,
I may be mistaken, but I think I read somewhere it's for residents only. And wanna say it's by draw as well.


Re: Oklahoma Deer Lease - so an Elk shows up? [Re: sqiggy] #2522065 08/21/11 10:13 PM
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No... They have a drawing to hunt a few places for res and non res but on private land you can shoot them, with a licenses, and think there is a season.

Best to call oklahoma dept of wild life fore details



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Page 26 of the interactive booklet..found on the Oklahoma department of wildlife website.

They do have a season and there are certain counties you can hunt them



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I thought Elk were classified as exotics in Texas and therefore could be hunted at anytime? I just heard this so, may have been BS.


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They are considered exotics here and you can shoot them year round in Texas day or night,,,,, but not oklahoma



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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
They are considered exotics here and you can shoot them year round in Texas day or night,,,,, but not oklahoma


This is true^

Oklahoma does have elk draws for residents and non-residents that purchased a license for the draw year but they are on government land and its a population control draw hunt.

In my opinion if I owned the ranch the elk came from and it had been 2 years, the chances of getting them back in the fence are slim and none. I would tell the neighbors they are fair game and good luck, all I would ask is a reasonable attempt to retrieve them just like cattle.....but its not as easy to herd something in a fence with 6' of horn on its head.


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Re: Oklahoma Deer Lease - so an Elk shows up? [Re: deewayne2003] #2523423 08/22/11 12:50 PM
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Deewayne, they also have a season for the ones that left the reservations. Aka management areas. You will have to beat down some doors for access



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Elk Season is Open Any time deer season is open, just have to buy the appropriate tag.



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According to the 2011-2012 OK Hunting Guide page 9 a resident must have Hunting License/Elk License for each elk hunted and WRITTEN landowner permission to hunt elk. Page 26 an Elk hunter may hunt only on lands where they have written permission from the landowner to hunt elk. Written permission must be in possession of hunter. They do have seasons by zones.


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I don't know what the regs are, but my in-laws live in Clayton, OK and they get huge elk that escape from the Pushmataha County State Game Refuge quite regularly.

Saw 6 or 7 huge bulls laying in the school's ball-field grass about 6AM one morning, right off of S2 before you hit the town.

My brother in law tells me the elk do get poached when they wander off. Those small town game wardens sure are downright unfriendly when they're on the prod.........



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I have email into Oklahoma wildlife, I'm not sure my area is even in an Elk zone. Only Elk there have escaped from high fence ranches.


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From the Oklahoma Hunting Regulations:

Combined Season Limit

The combined statewide season limit for elk is two elk, regardless of sex or method of taking. Elk taken by hunters participating in controlled hunts are not included in the hunter’s combined season limit.

Elk taken in the Southwest Zone/Slick Hills area from Jan. 1 – 31, 2012, and elk taken in the Northeast Zone from Jan. 1 – 15, 2012, count towards the 2011 bag limit.

Dates, Open Areas & Zone Limits

Open areas are private lands in Caddo, Comanche and Kiowa counties (Southwest Zone) and Adair, Cherokee, Delaware, Mayes, Muskogee and Sequoyah counties (Northeast Zone).

Southwest Zone / Granite Hills Area – Private lands west of Hwy. 115. One elk limit.

Archery
(legal bull or antlerless elk): Oct. 1-5 and Dec. 10 – 14, 2011

Gun

(legal bull or antlerless elk): Oct. 6-9 and Dec. 15 – 18, 2011

Southwest Zone / Slick Hills Area – Private lands east of Hwy. 115. Two elk limit, one of which must be antlerless.

Archery

(legal bull or antlerless elk): Oct. 1 – 5 and Dec. 10 – 14, 2011

Gun

(legal bull or antlerless elk): Oct. 6 – 9 and Dec. 15 – 18, 2011

Gun

(antlerless elk only): Nov. 19 – Dec. 4, 2011 and Jan. 1 –31, 2012

Northeast Zone – Private lands only. One elk limit, any elk regardless of sex, age, or antler points.

Archery
(either sex): Oct. 1, 2011 through Jan. 15, 2012

Muzzleloader
(either sex): Oct. 22 – 30, 2011

Youth Gun
(either sex): Oct. 14 – 16, 2011

(See age requirements.)

Gun (either sex): Nov. 19 – Dec. 4, 2011

Public Lands

Elk hunting is closed on all Department-owned or managed lands, except for controlled elk hunt permittees on areas and dates designated on their controlled hunt permit.

Legal Elk Definitions
•Southwest Zone – A legal bull is defined as having at least five points on at least one side. A point is defined as the tip of the main antler beam and any projection arising from the main antler beam that is at least one inch in length.

Antlerless elk are defined as elk with no visible antlers.
•Northeast Zone – No antler point restrictions. Any elk is legal.

Shooting Hours

One-half hour before official sunrise to one-half hour after official sunset.

Legal Means of Taking
•Archery: Equipment described as legal for deer archery season.
•Muzzleloader: Equipment described as legal for deer muzzleloader season.
•Gun: Equipment described as legal for deer gun season.

Hunter Orange

See hunter orange requirements.

Field Tagging & Checking

For field tagging and checking requirements for elk, see page checking and tagging.


Re: Oklahoma Deer Lease - so an Elk shows up? [Re: Turkeyteej] #2525062 08/22/11 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: TJHooker
From the Oklahoma Hunting Regulations:


that's the big question, my county isn't one of those, not anywhere even near there. I haven't seen any regulation for "other" counties.


Re: Oklahoma Deer Lease - so an Elk shows up? [Re: Rob Lay] #2525276 08/23/11 12:33 AM
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Not 100% sure but I think if you shoot any Elk in OK you have to possess a elk permit and it has to be checked in once harvested.

We had some elk wonder off some state ground last year and munched down big-time on our RIce Bran pellets in some small tree feeders. Big sucker draind the feeder and came back every day for 2 weeks I think....Ended tearing the feeder off the tree!

After the run in with this huge bull elk, I talked to the game warden in that county and he said I needed a elk tag to hunt elk in the state unless in a pen.....Elk tags are DRAW only.

Here is the link that shows the elk having his way with our feeder! Needless to say I was not expecting to see this on the trail camera! up THe pics are at the bottom of the page....

http://www.nutradeer.com/Deer-Pics-Trailcam.php?n=30



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If you aren't in one of those counties then there is no legal season for elk.


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I'm pretty sure you can hunt Elk on private property per the regulations. I know people that are hunting elk on their own land.
Here are the reulations straight off ODWC's website:

http://www.eregulations.com/oklahoma/hunting/elk-season/



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Finally heard back from Oklahoma.

I may not hunt the Elk in this county regardless of season, elk tags, and land owner permission. You may only hunt Elk in the counties listed and those regulations.

So basically every other county in the state if an Elk shows up, don't touch it! I wish Oklahoma was like Texas and all the other counties Elk were treated as exotics.


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Originally Posted By: Rob Lay
Finally heard back from Oklahoma.

I may not hunt the Elk in this county regardless of season, elk tags, and land owner permission. You may only hunt Elk in the counties listed and those regulations.

So basically every other county in the state if an Elk shows up, don't touch it! I wish Oklahoma was like Texas and all the other counties Elk were treated as exotics.


up been there.. Escort them to Texas smile



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Southeast Colorado has the fun of the "planted" Kansas elk...they put them on The cimarron grasslands...they wander across the border andWHACK! Plains elk is an unlimited license in Co...as long as its season, its on!



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choot 'em, choot 'em! When I first read the subject I thought it was some kind of joke. So an elk, auodad and raccoon walk into a bar..........



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Found your solution to you elk problem after talking with a good warden friend ..you need your land owner to apply for a crop deprivation permit.



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