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I could give a sh&t less about antlers.

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Here is a seasoning mix for the popcorn

All measurements are in teaspoons
2 paprika
1 salt
2 chili powder
1 cumin
1 black pepper
1 garlic powder
2 onion powder
1 cayenne pepper powder

Mix all ingredients and store in an airtight container, use sparingly unless you are used to the cayenne pepper.

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Keep it open

Well what a response I want to know peoples opinions on the topic not popcorn. It is not about High fences rather its fair to the animal or not, its about what makes a hunt “a hunt”. example Ok son lets have a bonding experience and go shoot us two big deer together it will be a bonding moment. The dad sets up a date for a hunt for 2 200 class bucks at a breeder farm, Lets say they cost 20K each. The father and son go on there supposed hunt. Well the operator shows them pictures of different 200 class buck, they pick the deer out. Well they stay over night in cabin and go hunting in the morning. In the mean time the operator lets the deer out in the hunting pins from there 15 acre growing pins to be harvested. Is this truly hunting?

I will never put Hunting vs hunter it is a mortal sin as a hunter. I just feel that lots of hunting traditions will be lost due to the simple fact that hunting is not hunting its killing a big deer.

Say how you feel.

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Jason, I know many ranches in South Texas and cannot think of one that operates like you say above! In fact 90% of all ranches don't even have breeder pens or even breeder licenses from the state. However, I am not stupid and believe that this kind of does go on but I would bet that it is happening in less than 1% of all high-fenced operations!!!!! Of the places I know of only two have pens within the ranch. These two sell mostly does from their operation and let 1.5 year old bucks that are showing potential go into their ranch. These deer are ear tagged, tattooed, and are freeze branded. The reason for all this effort to mark them is so they can identify them easily when they are spotted so they WILL NOT BE KILLED!!!!! They kill the trash bucks out and let the marked deer live out their lives breeding within the ranch.

Once again, I know there are some places that turn deer out of small pens and have hunters kill them. If these places do this without telling the hunter first, then SHAME on them!!! I do not agree with it in any way, shape, or form but to each his own.

IMO, there are way too many people here who are spouting off and making claims that they are simply not educated enough on to be doing so! Don't take this as a personal attack because it isn't.

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Here is a seasoning mix for the popcorn

All measurements are in teaspoons
2 paprika
1 salt
2 chili powder
1 cumin
1 black pepper
1 garlic powder
2 onion powder
1 cayenne pepper powder

Mix all ingredients and store in an airtight container, use sparingly unless you are used to the cayenne pepper.

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I tried that recipe last night. Works pretty good but I put in too much pepper I think.

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That yeller salt at Brookshires will mask the pepper-burn, Curtis...

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I wont go on any Hi fence hunts but I spent a lot of time on several places. I never had a desire for it. It is more of the breeders that are mind less. I had a lucky hunter who killed a 166 inch ten point with archery equipment (low fence) and we went to the Taxidermist, a guy walked in and this is what he said "who killed this little thing" and proceeded to brag about his 300+ inch breeder buck and how much he was selling the straws of sperm for. I had a girl friend that worked for a breeder and the breeder was so worried about selling fawns and straws of sperm rather than loving the whitetails. She quit the job due to this simple fact that see loves the deer more that how much $$$$$ they are going to get for straws. How do you all feel about this. The guy was patronizing a buck of a life time. It really po me.

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When you have 68 sections of land, theres not much need for a hi-fence.

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For most high fence operations, the first thing they do is remove all of the native deer.

We are not talking about wildlife in general here, you know, just as well as the rest of us, no one cares about skunks/squirrels/armadillos/feral hogs/javelina/coyotes/wild turkeys/rabbits on high fence properties, this is all about white tail deer.

Some high fence places only deal in exotic animals.

No one in this conversation is discussing that.

This whole issue is about white tail deer.

Explain something please, if the deer in Texas are Public Property, and 97% of the land in Texas is Privately owned, then why does the State/Public, not have to reimburse the private landowners for the care and feeding of all those Publicly Owned animals, for the 9 months or so that those animals are not hunted?????????

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Bigbucks, do you live in "deer country"? When you live in Rome you do as the Romans do. Come on guy!! Your driving habits have got to change while you're driving in an area you're not familar with. Watch where you're going and slow down especially at night. I can't believe you have to be told a simple thing like that! Deer are not the only thing on the roads, theres cows, goats, horses, and all kinds of stuff. If you drive hell bent for leather you're more proned to having an accident. Yes, accidents happen but if you're careful and WATCHING maybe it WON'T.

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Lets see if we can throw this discussion a full 180 degrees.

What Is Actually Killing The Tradition Of Hunting?

1. Lack of time on the part of the participants.

No one has the ability of spending several days in the field, scouting, and then the 2 or 3 or more days when season opens to actually hunt an animal.

How do they get around this and kill the tradition, game cams/blinds&stands/game feeders/protien feders/food plots/atv's/scopes that extend shooting times as far as the legal envelope will stretch.

Most hunters today, pack all their stuff in a trailer or another vehicle, and then when they get off work on Fri. afternoon make a mad dash to the house, hook on to the trailer or jump in the other vehicle and drive x number of hours to a lease tens to hundreds of miles away.

They arrive after mid-night or maybe even just in time to go jump in their stand and wait for day light.

Then about 8 or 9 o'clock they drag their tired butts to camp and pass out till time to go jump back in the stand and repeat the morning routine. They do that Saturday, then get up and set in the stand till 9 or 10 on Sun. morning and load up and head for home.

Hopefully depending on their job, financial, and family situation and distance to their lease, they will get to repeat that performance 3 or 4 times more during the season, hoping to connect with Muy Grande.

Some folks, after doing that a few years, decide that it is a lot simpler and less expensive to go on a package hunt, high or low fence, where all they have to do is take some clothes and a gun and a big ice chest, make a leisurely drive to the place, stay in fairly decent accommodations for a couple of days, eating pretty good meals, going out and setting in a comfortable even possibly heated stand, or doing some spot and stalk with a guide that knows where the deer hang out at on that property.

They get to see more and bigger deer than they ever have.

Then when they shoot something, pictures are taken, and then the animal is field dressed for them, taken to a storage/processing facility on the ranch, while the hunter is in cleaning up, the deer is skinned, the head caped out, the carcass quartered/put in the ice chest and the ice chest placed in a chiller.

Then when it comes time to head home they load up and go.

There are lots of things killing the tradition of hunting, and high fences only play a very minor role. JMO.

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ONE OF THE BEST POST EVER! Great job CHC, you are on the money.

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theres cows, goats, horses,

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theres cows, goats, horses,

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That's true, and if you hit one of them, the owner is held liable. Been there done that. One of my neighbors cows got out and was hit by a high school coach from San Angelo. Totaled his car and put him in intensive care. When he sued he was awarded in 6 figures.

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Well hell I will start swerving at cows

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Did I say I had a problem with High fences?No!I have a proplem with someone fencing in animals that belong to everyone in the State.I do not have a problem with someone making money off me wanting to hunt thier land.You want to high fence your property....get after it cowboy but don't try to force me to like it!And the thought that the State should pay land owners because they have deer on thier property is stupid to say the least.

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Explain something please, if the deer in Texas are Public Property, and 97% of the land in Texas is Privately owned, then why does the State/Public, not have to reimburse the private landowners for the care and feeding of all those Publicly Owned animals, for the 9 months or so that those animals are not hunted?????????

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mmmmmm.... inbred deer....... this is Texas, not Arkansas.

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Well hell I will start swerving at cows

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I hunt a high fenced place every year in early oct. I get meat and then go home the biggest deer they have are about 160 class. They have never introduced non native deer into there herd. All the deer on there ranch came from there ranch.It is about 12000 acres in kerr county.It is a nice place and I get three does, all the pigs I get a shot at and two nights lodging. It is mldp and is a good inexspensive way to fill the freezer.

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