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I think its a pretty good option based on what I have SEEN the winchester ballistic silvertips have done..I just figured you would get it by me giving some first hand knowledge of what ballistic tips have done....BTW my nephew,starting out2 seasons ago, has 3 kills as well with ballistic tips...To each his own...all 3 were over the river,and through the woods...

I have SEEN them blow up and the animal leave to never be found due to zero penetration, bottom line ballitlstic tips are varmint bullets not for deer or any other larger game, your day will come and you will say DAMN these bullets really do suck!

..This statement can be said about EVERY load out there....you crack me up.... anything going 2800 fps is going to penetrate....to each his own.....

Not true. What he is describing is called a "splash wound" and it happens all the time with people not using a projectile suited to the task. You are aware that there are projectiles out there that are so fragile that if pushed fast enough, they will fragment in flight before impact due to RPM's alone? How deep is that going to penetrate?

Laughing...........


Chupa

"anything going 2800 fps is going to penetrate.."

dead wrong. A bullet designed for varmints hitting the shoulder of a big game animal will likely not penetrate much at all.

I tried, BMD. I really did.

165 gr balistic tip is not frangible

There is also two types of NBT(DOH!!!!)


There is the NBT Varmint = Fragmenting although it is one of the sturdier "Varmint" grade projectiles.

And the NBT Hunting = controlled expansion


Chupa

seems someone here doesnt know that

And I don't think they make a 165gr projectile for either a 6mm(.243) or a 5.56mm(.224), which is what the OP was talking about.



Chupa

ok a 95gr bt is not frangible either

I know I hunt trophy animals and I am not hunting with a junky arse bullet or even worse a junky arse hornet, and worst of all a pos vanguard wanna be a weatherby

yaaawwwwnn...... get some better bait troll

I really don't give a frogs a fat arse they are cheap arse bullets! You wanna use em, but you recommending for a kid I a .223 or .243 is ridiculous!

Nope, which is why you need to know that there is more than one type of NBT.......Because the 80gr 6mm is frangible.

Did you know that before Googling?


Chupa

i havent recommended anything, you just keep saying there varmint boolits and im telling you there not. not in .243 or bigger there not

Pot calling kettle black you don't give a chit because you don't hunt trophies and you have little respect for the animals you are shooting and this obvious, or you just like stirring the pot, please continue using your cheap arse bullets and overload shells in your cheap arse rifles if that what makes you happy!

dude i been around a loooooong time. 80 gr 6mil in gmx is not frangible either nor the 85 gr sierra game kings

I am telling you they SUCK! Watched a 165 pop on axis bucks shoulder and e ran off with blood all over his shoulder it expanding all right and never made it thru the blade, then I watched it happen again on aoudad the bullets SUCK!

And it doesn't stop there. I have a load for a 75gr 6mm Hornady HP #2420 which technically is a "Varmint" projectile. This load is used for hogs and does quite well, atleast up to the 200lb mark.

The reason it works is because it's not being pushed from a .243. It's for my 6x45 which is much slower velocity wise and the projectile acts more like a controlled expansion round at that those speeds.

On the flip side, a hotly loaded .243AI can make a mess of some pretty sturdy projectiles as well.

Depends on how hard you push them.


Chupa

well ive only seen them go trough like butter, heres me running light for caliber with some speed behind it. look closely and you can see dirt from the boolit as it went through, this was a neck shot on a thick skinned pig no less.

Those aren't NBT's are they?


Chupa