If you can't kill a hog with a .223. You either A. can't shoot. Or B. Using some junk FMJ ammo.

I use 6.8, 308 and .223, all AR's.

I enjoy AR's because I like shooting alot, suppressors, nightvision etc. All are made for this platform, and are fun to play with.

Most people I know including my own fancy wood guns, rarely get shot.

try to read through the whole thread. I could care less if somebody uses a AR to kill any animal, i just prefer a bolt action. Pretty much people saying why they like each one over the other. A good conversation. I dont see one post in the entire thread that mentions what you have stated.

In my opinion AR platforms beat bolt, lever, and single shot hunting rifles in every way. They are just as or more accurate, follow up shots are far easier to make, they hold more rounds, they are impervious to weather, they can accommodate any type of optic, they can utilize quick detach mounts for multiple shooting situations,it is the most ergonomic rifle ever made, and they are just down right tough, made for combat!

The only downfall that I see regarding the AR platform is the lack of magnum caliber options (not that they are needed in Texas).

But, to each is own.

Now that's funny!!!

You're missing the point to the post(Mine). Noone has to say "I wish AR's are banned" for it to become ammo for the anti's. All they need is for a dominant forum(like this one) in a firearm friendly state to say "We don't like AR's" for it to become propaganda for their cause. Once the ball is rolling it doesn't stop at AR's, Right this very second they are trying to make anything that is semi automatic, has a detachable magazine illegal. The people here that "Don't LIKE" AR's probably don't realize that this includes their Remington 7400's in .270 or .30-06 or their favorite 1187 Duck gun.

All I'm saying is that if you value the way you like to hunt or the legal weapon that you choose to hunt with, then we need to stand united on ALL forms of legal firearms for the legal use of hunting. Just pick your words more carefully, that's what i'm saying. Why do we have to have "Black rifle" guys on one side of the room and "Wood and blue steel" guys on the other?

If you still want to fight, don't bother....I've said my piece.


Chupa

I love my ARs, all of them. My bolt guns are ok too.

ARs give me excellent accuracy, less recoil, faster follow up shots, and the ability to get multiple uses out of the same firearm.

I first started enjoying ARs when I carried something similar in the military. Now I use them for many applications from hunting to sport to personal protection training. I attend many courses just to keep up the skills.

Thank God for our 2A rights, that so far allow me to choose to have an AR. I hope that even though some folks prefer a bolt gun they wouldn't step on my right to have an AR in any way.

They don't serve a purpose in my arsenal. I own all bolt guns with the exception of 2 .22's. I'm an excellent shot, only need to shoot once anywho. If I want a "battle" gun, I'll bring the 1911, m&p or sig pistol. It's great they have a huge following but so do Coach purses and I have NO interest in owning one of them either.

Don't dislike AR's, just never got a bug for one! Got a Mini-14 (had it for years)and few single shots in .223 (Savage 24 O/U, NEF Handi Rifle, Contender 16").

Don't have a problem with the round either. My experience has been if you put a 55gr s.p. where it's supposed to go it will do the job.......Deer, hog, turkey, coyote, etc. Like everything else, it's got its limitations.

I read alot about the AR's but they're just not on my bucket list. Now a Shiloh Sharps, Browning B-78, or Winchester High Wall might give me a few goose bumps!!!!!!!

I was contemplating getting an AR for my grandson and I to play around with(he thinks they're cool....of course)but after reading this thread on em' I think I'm gonna pass...

I care nothing about AR type rifles.

They ain't my cup of tea either......

I love my ar's. I noticed that someone on here said they were going to stay away from ar's because of this thread, what a shame. I think it's funny when someone says "I only need one shot". That is probably true for alot of folks when shooting at ONE animal. When there's 15 hogs in the field, an AR comes in handy when trying to achieve multiple shots and I don't think there's any comparison between a bolt and an AR in regards to rapid target acquisition. JMO.....................

I can't believe some of the comments here. Hating on a semi-auto because you only need one shot. I didn't know that semi-autos fired more than one shot at a time. Last I checked more than one shot at a time was considered full auto. I wondering if all those that made the comment only carry one bullet when they go hunting. Last I checked bolt guns had magazines too.

There are 1, 5, 10, 20, 30, and more round magazines available for ARs, and there are a ridiculous number or calibers available. Seems that no one realizes that you don't have to load the magazine full, or empty it every time you are hunting. I`d rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Push a button, drop the mag, eject the shell done. Sounds better than unloading a blind mag to me. I think the phrase self control has been lost here.

My first was a 7.62x39, because my father got in on the sks stuff when it was cheap. Wanted a hunting rifle that would be more accurate than the Sks he had bubbaed. Then I found a 5.45x39 for a good deal, and now that hornady and another company are making hunting ammo, I have a coyote rifle that plinks for 11 cents.

I really only need one shot for an animal, but if I find myself in a situation that I shouldn't be in (whether my fault or not), I would prefer to be able to pull the trigger until the threat is subdued, rather than think if only I had bought that SSS 9 rd magazine for my bolt, I wouldn't have to worry about enough lead in the animal that is trying to kill me. I guess no one here has been in a full frontal praire dog charge. Those things are vicious. I still have scars on my ankles.

Yes 3006, I think you are absolutely right. Traditional hunting may only require a traditional rifle, but even DPMS took an AR10 hunting in Africa with a gas tube missing, and hating on someone for having a vertical grip just doesn't seem very sporting. Not to mention getting 5 shots on 10 animals in 5 seconds is much more beneficial when your task is not hunting, but simply killing as many as possible. Lead in the air is far more deadly than lead sitting in your pocket.

The funny thing is, 250 years ago when percussions came out, few said "we don't need them things, flints worked fine for daddy, granddaddy and greatgranddaddy".

When breechloaders came out, people switched en masse. Not too many insisted on frontstuffing when breech loading existed.

When the lever action took over America, not too many insisted only pansies needed more than one shot.

When after WW1 millions of men came back with Springfields and Enfields (and the previous war's Krags) nobody complained.

The AR has been our service rifle for longer than any other in history, even the Springfield.

You may like it. You may hate it. I don't particularly care. But AR's being used for hunting is no different than the Sharps, Rolling Block, Spencer, Henry, Winchester, Krag, Springfield (and even Garands), and in many other countries essentially the same phenomenon where service rifles became sporting ones.

Get over it. With the exception of the percussion lock, every single major advancement in riflery i can think of came from or benefited from war and military rifles.

Those Brownings, Winchesters, Remingtons, Rugers and many others all descend from the most common military rifle of all time prior to the AK-47, the Mauser 93/98 series.

This is very true, traditionally, hunting rifles HAVE BEEN and HAVE BEEN DESIGNED FROM military rifles. Those bolt actions are mostly based upon the Mauser bolt action design, a military rifle. Don't think that just because those rifles have been used for hunting longer than AR-15's doesn't mean they didn't start out as "the new kid on the block" (originally military rifles).

For those who think AR's are something to be ashamed of or who think they do not belong in the field, what would you say if someone said that about your bolt action rifle? Perhaps this was said when the bolt action started replacing the lever action, or the lever action replaced the black powder rifles.

I hunt with an AR for many reasons:
1. I hunt with a Quality ar-15 that is about every bit as reliable as a bolt action
2. I hunt with a Quality Ar-15 that is every bit as accurate as a bolt action
3. I could at any time easily repair my ar-15 if it were to break down in the field, in a matter of minutes
4. the parts that can break are easily and cheaply replaced (refer to #3) And I can easily repair any part on my gun myself
5. My ar-15 is light weight and easy to carry
6. My ar-15 is cheap to shoot ($0.20 a round)
7. I may only need 1 shot, but I have 29 more just in case (better too many than not enough)
8. 5.56/.223 is more than enough if you are a decent shot
9. If I decided I wanted to shoot a heavier caliber, all I need to do is changed the upper to a 6.8/6.5/.50 beo/etc. and it does not require an entirely new rifle
10. For night hunting for varmint/hogs, I can easily mount a light or night vision compatible optics on my rifle

There's ten reasons. Hate it or love it, the AR platform is the new hunting rifle of this century. Those who have shot them and hated them for function reasons probably have not shot quality ar's. There's tons of cheap ones out there, sure, but shoot a nice one and you'll be hooked. Mine cost $1,500 with optics, but is worth every penny and more.

Can't believe I only need one shot? Youve got to be kidding me! Why don't you re-read my post. You'll notice I use terms like "I don't need" and "my arsenal". I didn't know u knew me or what I use my rifles for

ARs are one of the best guns ever made. Not my favorite to shoot, I'd rather be blasting birds/clays, but its still fun to shoot and is definitely what I would want as a SHTF gun.

ar,s are about image.

No, true AR's are about functionality and practicality. The people that put all the stupid crap on the guns that weigh them down and make them clumsy are about image.

practical ? a combat rifle is not practical for hunting,
Functionality, maybe for combat.

Different Strokes for different folks.

Some people like to do that, while some people just want a basic SP1. That's the beauty of an AR platform; it is so adaptive.

Some might say the same thing about a +++++++++++++P++++++++++++ 22 Hornet.

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