Pass the salt

Absolutely correct. I tried them for a few years early on and the performance just does not compare vs. a more controlled expansion bullet. They CAN work very well, but overall performance with a ballistic tip can be (pardon the pun) hit or miss depending on placement. The only thing I use ballistic tip bullets for anymore is varmint rounds where they do excel.

I've been shooting the Ballistic Silver Tip with success. What is the beef tith this bullet and deer..? Poor expansion? inconsistency? accuracy?

What caliber are you shooting it in?

Generaly they over expand,dont penetrate as well, and dont give exit wounds if you need to track something in lighter calibers.

matt

No beef. Use what works for you. Ballistic tips GENERALLY operate on a more or less explosive expansion platform, losing quite a bit of retained weight at impact. This depends some on where and what you are hitting on the animal. A more controlled expansion bullet tends to hold together better at impact, retaining more weight, penetrating and expending more energy on target. For deer, find a good controlled expansion type bullet for a beginner ar any hunter for that matter, they are a bit more forgiving on the performance side in case of a less than optimum hit. Nothing wrong with Winchester BST's, just not the best choice for a beginning hunter.

The over expand, they suck unless you are using for varmints poor penetration.

7-08 BST for deer. Lungs shots seem to pass thru with smaller than expected exit wounds. Still trying to find 7-08 TSX over the counter...

Back on topic, My son has been haveing success with .243 shooting plain ol' remington power point in 80gr.

.223 just kinda looks and feels small...

winchester makes Power Points, the Remington 80gr is a PSP (Pointed Soft Point) which, by the way is designed as a varmint bullet, not a deer bullet. IMO a 223 with a partition or TSX would be more reliable than a varmint bullet from a 243.

The bullet is more important than what is on the headstamp.

Agreed

never said i was an awesome shot just said i'm confident with shot placement i shoot the same rifle and same ammo every time so you get used to when you pull the trigger you hit where you aim i was just sayin that they will work that's the point and do so quite well

I shoot the .243 with 95 grain ballistic silvertips and have never lost a deer..In most cases a shoulder shot drops them there...If they have run , it hasnt been far and tons of blood...Its just a fun gun to shoot..Have the 30-06 as well with the 150 gr ballistic and it leaves a gaping hole everytime...I guess you can read all ya want but never know till you actually shoot something and see for yourself... ..This includes over 50 deer with the .243..No matter if it was square in shoulder,crease behind shoulder,base of neck and of course earhole shots...

Still doesn't make it the best option especially for a kid starting out. One time I shot one off the rock over the hill thru a tree...... Nevermind.

wow now someone is bragging about there shooting

who says.
a .223 BT is not a deer boolit a 95 gr .243 bt is.
To much emphasis on boolit construction these days, they sure have many of you brain washed, a boolit reaching full penetration and coming apart in 3 pieces leaves more damage than a bonded boolit going straight through.
In the old days hollow points were the rave, nowdays people want a freakin fullmetal jacket super bonded gliding metal ttsx gmx boolit.

Ever.. I went through the same thing last year. I 9yo was doing fine with a 22 and getting him ready for deer season made the mistake of having him shoot my 270. (130gr) .. He was able to shoot it 2 times and that was enough.. He developed a real problem getting on target after that. I have had him shooting 243 80gr since and he is doing great. Some recoil but not bad at all. I do think this is the perfect caliber for small frame and honestly wouldn't mind shooting it myself more likely 100gr (will be sighting his in with this soon and not tell him)... Good luck.

Have used TSX or TTSX. Cause I am figurin you have not or you would get it!

oh i get it, freakin core locks worked for me for the past 40 years and for many others, a piece of lead through the lungs is well, a piece of lead through the lungs, glad you prefer copper though, to each his own

A 223 will kill a deer. I have done it and so has my son. that being said a 243 is a much better choice. A 243 with 100 gr Nosler Partitions is a very good deer round. It isnt marginal and it will penetrate and kill without hesitation. I could kill a deer with my pellet rifle, but the deer and the young hunter deserve better.

The old green remmys have killed many a deer, but the X is a whole different animal. A half ton will pull, but a diesel will do better. I have shot the X since 1994. I have yet to recover one. I am from the school that says, I want what goes in to come out.

Interrupting this pissing match to say I was wrong, shooting PSP not PP.

theres no magic boolit a bullet designed to blow through bone holds together better, a boolit that hold together better leaves small holes when not encountering bone.

a .243 100 gr cup and core, it doesnt get any better than this

WORLD of difference there.