Forums46
Topics551,665
Posts9,895,090
Members88,146
|
Most Online28,231 Feb 7th, 2025
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: TX4Ever]
#2423128
07/12/11 05:36 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 793
TX4Ever
OP
Tracker
|
OP
Tracker
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 793 |
On the .243 Rossi has either a regular or Heavy barrel. They are the same price so would it be better to get the heavy barrel for recoil or would that even matter? It also has a 1-10" twist and the regular barrel has a 1-12" Twist.
 Medically Retired Staff Sergeant/USAF/'06-'12/Deployment- FOB Mahmudiyah, Iraq Oct'08-Jan'10 Dallas PD Sep'13-Present
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: TX4Ever]
#2423153
07/12/11 05:44 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 144
san diego hunter
Woodsman
|
Woodsman
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 144 |
The heavier barrel will reduce some of the recoil and the 1:10" twist will handle the heavier rounds. My Remmy has a 9 1/8" twist.
Last edited by san diego hunter; 07/12/11 05:46 PM.
Joel
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: TX4Ever]
#2423155
07/12/11 05:44 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 776
piney woods hunter
Tracker
|
Tracker
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 776 |
mine is light barrel i would think bull barrel would cut down recoil, but might make rifle hard for 8 year old to handle u know boys size and strenth better than we if he can handle bull barrel i would get it
NRA all the way god guns and guts made us free , i want all three
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: BMD]
#2423184
07/12/11 05:53 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,379
Stump_jumper
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,379 |
Likely on a booked hunt they may require .243 minimum might check that as well. Just my opinion but a 223 is a varmint gun. I think Texas should have a minimum caliber not just any centerfire.
2017 Tundra 5.7 CM 4x4 2006 Champion 2200 Bay Boat
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: Stump_jumper]
#2423265
07/12/11 06:18 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 793
TX4Ever
OP
Tracker
|
OP
Tracker
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 793 |
 Medically Retired Staff Sergeant/USAF/'06-'12/Deployment- FOB Mahmudiyah, Iraq Oct'08-Jan'10 Dallas PD Sep'13-Present
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: TX4Ever]
#2423322
07/12/11 06:41 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 237
hpd
Woodsman
|
Woodsman
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 237 |
I had a similar experience with my son...the first time he shot a .410, the recoil left a lasting impression...that darn .410 single shot kicked like a mule...same with the 20 gauge when he moved up to it. He was nervous as heck about shooting the .243 we used for deer last year. But when he finally shouldered and shot it, he couldn't have been happier. A recoil pad will help, but I think he'll be fine with the .243.
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: hpd]
#2423342
07/12/11 06:50 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 793
TX4Ever
OP
Tracker
|
OP
Tracker
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 793 |
Oh good and yea your not joking about the single shot 20ga it kicks hard! Thanks for the info
 Medically Retired Staff Sergeant/USAF/'06-'12/Deployment- FOB Mahmudiyah, Iraq Oct'08-Jan'10 Dallas PD Sep'13-Present
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: piney woods hunter]
#2423608
07/12/11 08:47 PM
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 64
BigGuy84
Outdoorsman
|
Outdoorsman
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 64 |
I learned how to shoot on a .243 and now that my nephew is getting older we have that gun waiting for him after he shoots a .22 a little bit. I also bought myself a new .243 to shoot when I don't feel like shooting my 30-06. Myself and my older brother both shot our first deer with the same .243 that my nephew will learn how to shoot with.
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: BigGuy84]
#2423620
07/12/11 08:51 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,636
Texpppr
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,636 |
A .243 is definetly a better deer caliber.
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: BMD]
#2423662
07/12/11 09:11 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,747
CitySlickerHunter
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,747 |
Likely on a booked hunt they may require .243 minimum might check that as well. X2
"I can't be over gunned because the animal can't be over dead"-Elmer Keith 10/30/2012 I VOTED for The American
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: piney woods hunter]
#2423667
07/12/11 09:12 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 951
MR5Hunter
Tracker
|
Tracker
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 951 |
Shot plenty of deer w/ .223 but were neck shots. Would personally go w/ .243
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: TX4Ever]
#2423682
07/12/11 09:20 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 577
Elkman
Tracker
|
Tracker
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 577 |
My son shoots a 243 he is fixing to turn 10. I started him off on a BB gun, then single shot 22,410,20 ga., 223 now he is using a 243. I use 95gr, Nosler BT and the 100gr. Hornady, He has taked 3 deer and several hogs. He shoots about 100 rounds before hunting season. The main this is SAFETY AND PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE.
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: Elkman]
#2423720
07/12/11 09:39 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 14,200
tth_40
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 14,200 |
My daughter took her first two deer with a .243 NEF Handi Rifle.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: tth_40]
#2423733
07/12/11 09:46 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,814
quackaholic1
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,814 |
Put a Simms recoil pad on it they are great.
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: quackaholic1]
#2423873
07/12/11 10:58 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 513
ctonsmitty
Tracker
|
Tracker
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 513 |
.243 and if it kicks too much add a Limb Saver recoil pad on the gun butt
Good Luck!
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: piney woods hunter]
#2423946
07/12/11 11:31 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,327
bowassin
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,327 |
I would go with .243... I shoot a 6mm in a ruger M-77 drops em everytime... I would Worry about shot placement with .223.... Personally I think .223 is Too small for deer that's just me
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: CitySlickerHunter]
#2424097
07/13/11 12:30 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 793
TX4Ever
OP
Tracker
|
OP
Tracker
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 793 |
Likely on a booked hunt they may require .243 minimum might check that as well. X2 I did check with them and they do not have a minimum caliber but i am going with the .243 and putting a recoil pad just to add a little more comfort for him. I want him to enjoy shooting and hunting! I did like the comment about having a .243 for yourself just if you dont fill like shooting the bigger calibers and you might have just put the idea in my mind to get me one too! But i will be getting the .243 and i know he will have a blast! Thanks everyone
 Medically Retired Staff Sergeant/USAF/'06-'12/Deployment- FOB Mahmudiyah, Iraq Oct'08-Jan'10 Dallas PD Sep'13-Present
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: TX4Ever]
#2427072
07/14/11 03:36 AM
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 2,917
Bear Charge
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 2,917 |
When that first deer is in the sights, he wouldn't be able to tell the difference between his .22 and a .45-70. 
"Democracy is a sheep and two lions voting. Liberty is a well armed sheep contesting the vote." Ben Franklin
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: Bear Charge]
#2427276
07/14/11 07:45 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 204
TX_duckdawg
Woodsman
|
Woodsman
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 204 |
No..at go time he wldnt be able to tell the difference... but at the range, when its important to be gaining confidence he sure will feel it...the added recoil is coming from the tiny lil single shot frame of that gun. Id be willing to bet that for about the same cost as the $125 barrel u could likely find a used bolt action in .243 or something close....a bolt action w a little more weight to it would absorb a lot of punch and allow him to shoot more comfortably...thus improving the end result. If u stay w the rossi..at least get the heavy barrel. May help a bit.
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: piney woods hunter]
#2427467
07/14/11 01:22 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 28
hunterscode
Light Foot
|
Light Foot
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 28 |
To not get him discouraged get him a 223 or 243 with a bull barrell it will reduce the kick a whole lot. I have shot Texas deer with the winchester silver ballistic tips in 243 and 223 both work great.
Last edited by hunterscode; 07/14/11 01:23 PM.
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: hunterscode]
#2427509
07/14/11 01:40 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 41,350
BMD
Silver Spoon
|
Silver Spoon
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 41,350 |
To not get him discouraged get him a 223 or 243 with a bull barrell it will reduce the kick a whole lot. I have shot Texas deer with the winchester silver ballistic tips in 243 and 223 both work great. Ballistic tips are not a bullet for deer, glad it worked for you but this is bad advice especially in the small calibers you are recommending a varmint bullet for deer 
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: BMD]
#2427548
07/14/11 01:55 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 866
redseal
Tracker
|
Tracker
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 866 |
To not get him discouraged get him a 223 or 243 with a bull barrell it will reduce the kick a whole lot. I have shot Texas deer with the winchester silver ballistic tips in 243 and 223 both work great. Ballistic tips are not a bullet for deer, glad it worked for you but this is bad advice especially in the small calibers you are recommending a varmint bullet for deer they may not be choice for behind the shoulder shots or a begginer who is not confident in shot placement but i've downed a lot of deer with what he calls balistic tips but all but 1 or two of these have been head or neck shots and have yet to have a bad experience i shoot a .243 and am very confident in my shot placement i mainly shoot hornady but have used the silver tips also
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: redseal]
#2427587
07/14/11 02:10 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 41,350
BMD
Silver Spoon
|
Silver Spoon
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 41,350 |
Good for you but fact is the bullets suck for deer and especially for a kid. If you hit right in the head it doesnt matter what you shoot 
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: redseal]
#2427594
07/14/11 02:13 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 41,350
BMD
Silver Spoon
|
Silver Spoon
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 41,350 |
To not get him discouraged get him a 223 or 243 with a bull barrell it will reduce the kick a whole lot. I have shot Texas deer with the winchester silver ballistic tips in 243 and 223 both work great. Ballistic tips are not a bullet for deer, glad it worked for you but this is bad advice especially in the small calibers you are recommending a varmint bullet for deer they may not be choice for behind the shoulder shots or a begginer who is not confident in shot placement but i've downed a lot of deer with what he calls balistic tips but all but 1 or two of these have been head or neck shots and have yet to have a bad experience i shoot a .243 and am very confident in my shot placement i mainly shoot hornady but have used the silver tips also I have been trying to figure your point, is it that you are anawesome shot or it doesn't matter what you shoot em in da head with 
|
|
|
Re: .223 vs. .243? Help....
[Re: BMD]
#2427625
07/14/11 02:25 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 2,535
Nontypical3006
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 2,535 |
|
|
|
Moderated by bigbob_ftw, CCBIRDDOGMAN, Chickenman, Derek, DeRico, Duck_Hunter, kmon11, kry226, kwrhuntinglab, Payne, pertnear, sig226fan (Rguns.com), Superduty, TreeBass, txcornhusker
|