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Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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06/03/11 01:27 PM
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sciencehunter
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Has anybody used Federal 85 gr.TSX in .243 caliber? How did they perform for you? Mainly interested in game stopping performance.
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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06/03/11 01:33 PM
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BMD likes them quite a bit.
Personaly I would go with a 90 or 100 grain partition.
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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I do not remember if it is a 90gr or 95gr load from Remington I have been impressed with now for the 243 but it uses the Swift Sirocco bullet. The Nosler Accubond is another good bullet in the 243 that performs very well.
Like Matt said the Partition is a good bullet that the rest of the premium bullets are compared to and still holds it on in any comparison.
I cannot say that I have ever tried the TSX in a 243 but it is a tough bullet that gets high marks from several people, including BMD who recomends it very highly.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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I switched from the federal 85tsx to the Barnes vortx 80gr ttsx. And my accuracy was a lot better
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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Tsx is the only bullet I have had shoulder pass trus in the 243. Took a quartering a way shot...entered last rib exited arm pit.. buck to one jump forward and piled
The gamekings where the most accurate but hated the miss haps I had with them.
Fed 85 tsx where 1.25-1.5...good enough for 80-100 yard feeder deer.. 80 ttsx are .71 In my gun. Gamekings where .5-.6
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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06/03/11 02:54 PM
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The ttsx are great as well, they are great bullets and as mentioned above te partition is a great bullet.
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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06/03/11 03:15 PM
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I have ran handloaded 85 TSX out of my old Sako 243 and been using the Factory loaded Barnes ammo with the 80g TTSX .5" groups and if memory serves close to 3300 FPS it kills stuff D E A D 
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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The 80gr TTSX is a much better bullet.
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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Helped a friend take her first hog (about 125#) about a week ago with Sako 243-handloaded 85gr TSX. 125 yard shot in one shoulder out the other....10 yards and dead.
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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Recently started tinkering with them in a 6x45 and accuracy so far has been acceptable, haven't found the sweet spot just yet. Going to try the 80gr TTSX next.
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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ok Vanguard what is the story on those bullets in the pictures, some of them do not look so good. 
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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supposably recovered bullets (tsx) from game animals, from other forums from different people. Looks like some have had, not so good results from them.
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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06/08/11 12:40 PM
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 vg you are talking about something you have no experience with, and those bullets, and you know that  you go test em for yourself, and then you will see, no better bullet on the market, and their your type of bullet cause you wanna run em light for caliber and wfo!
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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 vg you are talking about something you have no experience with, and those bullets, and you know that  you go test em for yourself, and then you will see, no better bullet on the market, and their your type of bullet cause you wanna run em light for caliber and wfo! Well Im not talking about anything, I posted pics from people who claim those results from a tsx, thats it im not arguing for or against them just showing some results. Not my pics so I cant say anything. Heres one thing I dislike about them, light for caliber, everyone knows mass equals penetration, to me it would seem an 85 gr bonded bullet would be just as good as a 100 gr cup an core. seems like were back to square one on penetration. So whats so great about that
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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"everyone knows mass equals penetration"
then "everyone" would be wrong
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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"everyone knows mass equals penetration"
then "everyone" would be wrong X2 Try them and see for yourself vg
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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I would bet that the bullets posted by VG, especialy the top two came out of a gravel pit or something similar. I shoot alot in a gravel pit and got alot of similar looking x-bullets and tsx after I dug them out, they just do weird things when shot into gravel, one would open just like the advertiesements, one would look like you could load it again and the third would hit a rock and it would just cut half the bullet off like from tip to base... hotdog style if you will  However I never saw that on game, as long as I followed the light for caliber and as fast as I could get them to go mentality they performed great. matt
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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"everyone knows mass equals penetration"
then "everyone" would be wrong Really ? I think some of you just want to argue. leave bullet construction out of it. 100 gr lead at 2900 fps vs 150 gr lead at 2900 fps, which penetrates more , heavier mass will always penetrate more, thats a fact.
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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U can't leave bullet construction out of it 
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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U can't leave bullet construction out of it when were simply talking mass you have too , thats why I say a light for caliber bonded will prolly equall a heavy for caliber cup and core, in terms of penetration.
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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U can't leave bullet construction out of it +1 There are MANY variables that affect penetration. Bullet mass is only one. Your comment has about as much validity as saying a fat person is ALWAYS heavier than a skinny person. (Depends on height,too)
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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U can't leave bullet construction out of it when were simply talking mass you have too , thats why I say a light for caliber bonded will prolly equall a heavy for caliber cup and core, in terms of penetration. If a light for caliber bullet will out penetrate a heavy for caliber bullet, then mass does not equal penetration...you're talking in circles
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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U can't leave bullet construction out of it when were simply talking mass you have too , thats why I say a light for caliber bonded will prolly equall a heavy for caliber cup and core, in terms of penetration. If a light for caliber bullet will out penetrate a heavy for caliber bullet, then mass does not equal penetration...you're talking in circles the only way your going to get a lighter bullet penetrate more is with leass expansion doesnt seem better to me
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Re: Federal 85 gr TSX for .243
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yes, frontal area is another variable which impacts penetration (and which is ignored in the assertion that "mass equals penetration")
Whether one is "better" than the other depends on the application. For example the Trophy Bonded Bear Claw of the same weight as a Nosler partition will probably penetrate LESS because the front core is bonded, so it retains more weight (another variable) than the partition. But the front core of the partition is relatively frangible so it expands quickly doing a lot of internal damage, but retains a relatively small frontal area for the rear core, so even though it retains less mass than the Trophy Bonded, it typically penetrates deeper.
Sorry to get the thread so far off track. To answer the OP's question, the 85gr TSX perfoms very well on deer. It will typically out penetrate 100gr CnC bullets.
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