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Re: lease frustration [Re: TxTechsan] #2156236 03/02/11 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: TxTechsan
I dont know how or how much you hunted but only seeing 1 deer all year would be a deal breaker for me. Cows or no cows.


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Re: lease frustration [Re: Satch] #2156250 03/02/11 11:19 PM
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i hunted almost every weekend until right before christmas only one deer youth weekend oct 31st my daughter shot the other hunter didnt see many either



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Re: lease frustration [Re: merkin777] #2156274 03/02/11 11:30 PM
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You can find more for less. I'd pass on that lease. You had a lot of time and $$$ tied up to only see one deer. My outfit took around 80 animals since January 2009, on 10500 acres split between several ranches and we didn't scratch the surface. Granted our management practices are different (HF hunting ranches), but to spend 400 hours on a place and only see one deer is crazy. Even if you're a slob in the stand and scare everything off you should at least see ears and tails somewhere.


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Re: lease frustration [Re: Insight Hunting] #2156433 03/03/11 12:52 AM
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3 years ago there were deer all over the place...not alot of cattle..now its all cattle...i mean ALOT of cattle...the cows have every cactus grass leaf all of it gone and i think the deer just went away dont know where...even on the game cams not alot of deer



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Re: lease frustration [Re: merkin777] #2156460 03/03/11 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted By: merkin777
3 years ago there were deer all over the place...not alot of cattle..now its all cattle...i mean ALOT of cattle...the cows have every cactus grass leaf all of it gone and i think the deer just went away dont know where...even on the game cams not alot of deer

Sounds to me like the cattleman lost some cattle grazing leases and was forced to move cattle onto your place. Ask him about it and see what his plans are to do about the cattle situation. He can not continue to run that many cattle and loose them or starve them down.



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Re: lease frustration [Re: stxranchman] #2156686 03/03/11 02:23 AM
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he had 3 or 4 dead ones this year just left them lay...



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Re: lease frustration [Re: merkin777] #2156824 03/03/11 03:04 AM
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You might want to talk to the rancher first.

Like someone said he might have had to move his cattle off another property for some reason and you can bet he probably won't do the same thing this year because the feed alone will eat him up financially, so he either will have to find a place for his cattle to graze or he will have to sell off a lot of head of cattle just to keep from going broke.




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Re: lease frustration [Re: merkin777] #2157768 03/03/11 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted By: merkin777
i saw one deer the one my daughter shot and i shot one duck...we might give it one more year i am still on the fence right now


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Re: lease frustration [Re: Nogalus Prairie] #2158087 03/03/11 06:47 PM
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I would think it also depends on the number of acres you are hunting as well as what / how often you are feeding. The lease I hunt has approx 500 head of cattle. However we feed year around (approx. 16 feeders). Some feeders we have fenced off, and some are not fenced. The cattle on our lease follow a pattern. For example in the morning they all meet near they windmill, stay until about lunch and then head out in different directions for the evening / night and then will return back in the morning. I agree the cattle on our lease are very annoying. Especially when they come into camp and locate bags of feed. With that said the deer on our lease tolerate the cows. We have whitetail, turkeys, axis, sika, hogs, etc. Cows or now cows I think it really depends on how you are managing and what you are doing to keep the deer coming around? Deer typically will run when they see a cow but then pop right back in when the cows leave if there is a good food source.




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