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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: Jake317]
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01/06/11 08:12 PM
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wacorusty
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hope that wasn't your dead grandpa's 22-250 and your company truck! it might just be state's evidence now
"The arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and assistance to foreign hands should be curtailed, lest Rome fall." Cicero
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: wacorusty]
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01/06/11 08:24 PM
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Big Tony
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I would think that Buck would be legal within the "spirit" of the law. That being said, Yall know as well as me, It would just be up 2 what the GW had for breakfast. 
"A hunt based only on trophies taken, falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be." -Fred Bear
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: rswarrior]
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01/06/11 09:35 PM
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redmist220
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I'm gonna agree i would kill it in a minute . Also I think it is right at or a tad over the 13" mark.
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: redmist220]
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01/06/11 10:07 PM
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tkuehn5410
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For those that say they would kill it, do you know what restitution would be on that deer? It would probably cost more than your truck or vehicle.
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: tkuehn5410]
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01/06/11 10:19 PM
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rifleman
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would only cost roughly $500 for a taxidermist to mount it at 13 1/8" 
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: rifleman]
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01/06/11 10:26 PM
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PappawRock
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That bread tie looks to be a 12"...
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: PappawRock]
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01/07/11 12:41 AM
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HillbillyDeluxe
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Looks like an illegal buck in my neck of the woods. Shoot it and you're breaking the law (however dumb it might be) period.
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: HillbillyDeluxe]
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01/07/11 03:12 PM
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ChevyHDGert
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Didn't the AR a few years ago used to say that it had to be 13" spread OR have at least 5 points on one side?
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: Family Style]
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01/07/11 04:02 PM
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kyle1974
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We have one simaler to this on our lease but not as big. He runs around breeding does with out a care in the world because........No one can legaly shoot his sorry arse! His buddies with the nice racks can't chase does during the day for fear of being shot at! So the buck with the bad genes bred more does than the bucks with the good genes. really? you one one similar to that 200" deer on your place?
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: ChevyHDGert]
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01/07/11 04:12 PM
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Justin T
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Didn't the AR a few years ago used to say that it had to be 13" spread OR have at least 5 points on one side? Originally it was 13" or 6 points on one side. They took that regulation away though. I would assume because of concerns of high grading.
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: kyle1974]
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01/07/11 04:13 PM
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Justin T
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We have one simaler to this on our lease but not as big. He runs around breeding does with out a care in the world because........No one can legaly shoot his sorry arse! His buddies with the nice racks can't chase does during the day for fear of being shot at! So the buck with the bad genes bred more does than the bucks with the good genes. really? you one one similar to that 200" deer on your place? My question is, how does this buck know he cannot be shot, but the others do?
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: BMD]
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01/07/11 04:41 PM
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PSE-Madman
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I would put a rage in his cage any day. I never see deer like that in Junction so If that puppy walked out in range he is going down. I agree OUIXCH with the spirit of the law comment.
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: Justin T]
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01/07/11 05:02 PM
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kyle1974
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We have one simaler to this on our lease but not as big. He runs around breeding does with out a care in the world because........No one can legaly shoot his sorry arse! His buddies with the nice racks can't chase does during the day for fear of being shot at! So the buck with the bad genes bred more does than the bucks with the good genes. really? you one one similar to that 200" deer on your place? My question is, how does this buck know he cannot be shot, but the others do? because they're all on this forum...... DUH! call me a criminal... but if a 200" deer walks out that doesn't meet the AR by an inch, I'm smoking that [censored].
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: kyle1974]
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01/07/11 05:18 PM
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rifleman
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if risking a violation is that important just to get meat in the freezer you could always let that deer walk and shoot a doe....just sayin'....
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: DSP56]
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01/07/11 05:32 PM
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Deerhunter61
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I'm a fan of ARs but I'd without a doubt shoot that deer. I would pay whatever fine I had to pay then write my taxidermist a check and stair at him on my wall every night. Not sure but I do not think they would let you keep him. I am a FAN of ARs and I also realize that there are issues like this one out there but on the whole I think ARs are good for us and the deer herd as a whole. The state is not looking to manage the deer population for 200+ class bucks. I think its goal is to give the average hunter I chance to see and harvest more mature bucks and I believe that is happening. When I hunted in E TX before the ARs we seldom saw a decent buck and even does. Frankly after a while it got very hard to stay in the stand for more than an hour or so. Think of the effect of that on a young hunter. Do you think he will keep coming back if he never sees a deer? I think this will help us as hunters keep young hunters hunting and allow us to pass our love of hunting on to the next generation.
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: murph]
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01/07/11 05:43 PM
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7mag
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so we are saying in a AR county that would not be a legal buck??? All I can say is thats freakin crazy 
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: 7mag]
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01/07/11 06:04 PM
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Curly
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Ya gotta let it walk everyone...that's the way AR go. So what if it's a giant....the antlers aren't wide enough to make it a mature buck...thus sayeth the TP&W and that's one reason I hate ARs. Like I've read before on the THF, if it's that close to being illegal, to be on the safe side, don't shoot.
Last edited by Curly; 01/07/11 06:09 PM.
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: Curly]
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01/07/11 06:14 PM
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wacorusty
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You sound like Ron Washington! 
"The arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and assistance to foreign hands should be curtailed, lest Rome fall." Cicero
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: Curly]
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01/07/11 06:15 PM
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redchevy
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AR county or not I would shoot that deer... we are all inocent till proven guilty... just one more reason to process your deer at home.
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: redchevy]
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01/07/11 06:42 PM
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Curly
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and just one more reasons ARs can stink.......
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: 7mag]
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01/07/11 06:57 PM
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blancobuster
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so we are saying in a AR county that would not be a legal buck??? All I can say is thats freakin crazy really crazy! awesome buck
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: wacorusty]
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01/07/11 07:24 PM
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Jake317
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hope that wasn't your dead grandpa's 22-250 and your company truck! it might just be state's evidence now nope, riding in the ranch jeep (paid 200 for it) and shooting a cheap 22... heck if gonna break the law , might as well go all out! 
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: Jake317]
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01/07/11 07:31 PM
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Deerhunter61
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Amazing how one or two examples of the downside of a program, there will always be a downside because you simply can not please everyone, creates such a lopsided response. No one wants to talk about the overall benefits. They just want to complain about the exceptions.
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: Deerhunter61]
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01/07/11 07:35 PM
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Curly
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What harm does a buck with a rack like that do to a herd of deer? I think the genetics on that buck were just fine. So what if it's rack was narrow? I don't think anyone on here would not call it a trophy. It was awesome and should be able to be legally taken.
Last edited by Curly; 01/07/11 07:36 PM.
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Re: Question That Might Stir The Pot
[Re: Curly]
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01/07/11 07:48 PM
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Deerhunter61
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I think everyone that has commented on this post would agree that this buck is one that should be harvested. The issue is should minority rule? Should the Dems control the agenda in congress now that they are in the minority? Should small special interest group be allowed to dictate the law? Or should what as a whole is best be supported? ARs has flaws. No one on here disputes that. But the state has determined that on the whole ARs is the best way to allow the OVERALL deer herd mature and allow hunters the chance to in turn harvest better bucks overall. Again there will always be someone with an exception who will try to use it to build a case against ARs and their effectiveness.
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