To each his own

Lol just talking about feel a standard 700 action feels cheap next to a a-bolt action

Reality is I will never own either!

Remi or vangaurd in heavy gloves is rough...
My 257 has a very stiff action, but the kampfire knob...makes up for it.

My browning has a smoother action then all my remi's, but doesn't shoot near as good .

Now custom remi like stellar....no contest...nothing touches them.

not a savage man either sighted my buddies 270 in for him first three shots ever out of the gun where under an inch....but the stock felt like a hollow plastic whoofal ball... bat.... drove me nuts handling it, thought it was going to crush after every shot. And action was very loose...my dads savage 338 felt same way

again if someone laid million dollars on the table and six boxes of different mfg rifles and said which gun will be the most accurate production gun...I would pick styer then browning
What I don't like about styer is forearm area fells real weak, and flexs....and good luck finding a 26 barrel and you can't re-barrel them. The biggest problem with styer and browning is if you did get a bad shooter...not much tweeking you can do to get them to shoot better.

I will just stay with my KC's

Them's fightin' words!!!

I have half a mind to take my POS vanguard and shoot some groups now.

Then you'll never make an informed statement. If you haven't collected your own data you're just making assumptions. Sure they may be ugly in your eyes but in others not so much.

I'm fine with your brand loyalty but you harping on anything but a M700 is getting old when you don't own a M700. You have an action and that's it.

Wasn't an option or I would of said no contest KC...

Are all your KC's stock or custom action?

All in Remington trued actions

point and fact right there

Shooting it doesn't mean you have to own it

You don't
Have. To OWN one to shoot it now do you? And
I have owned plenty of Remingtons, and have never had an issue with one, are they better now without question! I don't value your opinions much either.

What you don't know is I'm sitting here with my vanguard in my lap petting it and crying a little.

savages shoot good, but i really do not care for the action. they are some deer killin machines though

Truthfully not to many bad shooting rifles now a days!!!


Ps those 80grain ttsx's are nasty stuff in 257.. thanks for the tip!!!

Who cares about the action when you only need ONE shot.

Put it in after market stock and it will be good to go

It is more about personal preference for sure they will all kill a deer!

Glad you brought that up BMD...
Got an email flier from Midway today. The Boyds and Bell and Carlson stocks on sale, but the B&C has a 90 day backorder (for those non-Remmy owners ).

did you shoot something with them? if so, did it have good entry and exit damage?

Honestly, I've thought about it, but can't justify it. The stock it's in is very pretty (wooden).

Come time when I have the barrel bedded (most likely this summer), I'll probably switch over to a synthetic.

I want to get a zeiss for it too. The B&L leaves me wanting more.

Stocky stocks had big sale too but it was supposed to end 12/31, just giving you grief Payne

cool deal - good head shot.