A frined of mine has an Ohio CHL. Said it is easier to get then the TX CHL. Does anyone have any contact information who gives this class in the Mesquite, Forney area.

This one should get good.

Dude just get a tx chl, EASIER TO GET? Tx isnt hard to get, folks that dont get the tx chl IMO are just lazy. If you really want to carry a utah or ohio chl move there.

I guess this is a sore subject for some. Maybe is Utah I'm thinking of, thanks for reminding me.

Yep, I think your thinking of Utah. Smasher, here on the forum, teaches the Utah class in Denton, but I think he will come to you if enough peeps sign up. BTW, the class is only 4 hours, cheaper, and you don't have to shoot. I didn't know about the utah thing last year when I renewed my Tx chl, or I would have done it in a heart beat.

Two of my buddies got a Utah CHL vs. TX due to the renewal coat being cheaper. Whether that's true or not I don't know, but I can tell you that there is at least one Trooper we ran into coming back from Childress that doesn't like the Utah CHL. My buddy got pulled over for speeding and the Trooper gave him an ear full about his disdain for the Utah CHL. He asked my buddy if his was too lazy to take the Texas CHL and infiormed us that he didn't Like the fact Utah doesn't require holders to qualify on the range. Granted my buddy was speeding and deserved the ticket, but the Trooper cut him no breaks. I sincerely believe had he held a TX CHL the outcome may have been different.

Let me be clear, I am in no way blasting the Trooper that pulled us over (we were breaking the law). Just sharing my firsthand experience with the Utah CHL.

Joe

Utah is cheaper. My dad just got his. The trooper throwing a hissy over Utah not requiring qualification is laughable. The Texas chl "qualification" is a joke and in no way demonstrates competence to carry concealed. As long as Texas recognizes the non-resident Utah license, the opinion of the ranting trooper doesn't matter. Why berate someone for following the law?

How is actually shooting a qualification course vs. a classroom only course a joke?

The qualifications are a joke and they create urban rambos

Toolman, do you have your chl? If so, do you think that the shooting portion of the course demonstrates how competent/effective you will be a cc? The only thing shooting your 50 rounds for the TX chl prooves is that you can fire your weapon! Does that prove competence to responsibly carry a firearm, much less own one? I think not. It is MY responsibility as a chl holder to be competent. Shooting 50 rnds at a target in no way, prepares you or shows your competence to handle real life "carry" situations. Waste of time and ammo! Now, with that being said...I wouldn't be opposed to a better designed shooting portion of the course.

I'm not saying one is better than the other, just sharing my experience. Granted the Troopers rant may have been over the top a bit, but we were a captive audience.

Personally I think the shooting portion should be more robust and have a dedicated firearm safety test. You hear about people that buy their first handgun or first gun period and take the course. Some of these idiots don't know the first thing about how to handle a firearm safely. If you need evidence of these idiots, go to any public range on the weekends.

Joe

Ive posted this before and I will post it again---Keep in mind if you are a Texas resident your permit is recognized in approx 30 states---However, if you are a Texas resident and you choose to get a Utah permit, it is NOT recognized in several states as you being a Texas resident,,,,If you plan to travel you will need to check each individual state,,although the state may recognize the Utah permit, there are several states that specifically say, "ONLY IF YOU ARE A RESIDENT OF THE ISSUING STATE".....
So, to clarify...if you are a Texas resident and are carrying a Utah permit only,,, your permit is not recognized without having a Texas permit

http://www.nraila.org/recmap/usrecmap.aspx

I will stick with my first statement. Yea the shooting qualifications are not up to par. I will tell you one thing , I would rather have someone with a chl that at least have shot a gun vs. a fool who just took a class and never pulled the trigger at all. I still think folks who get the Utah chl are lazy folks. Thats all it boils down to cheapskates and to lazy to take a full course. What other reasons are there?

Thanks for some important information.

In the event something bad happened I wouldn't want to try to explain to a jury when asked by a smart arsed prosecutor why a Tx resident possessed a Utah CHL.

Unless you lived there and moved here there is no reasonable answer.

I understand reciprocity and recognition, avoiding the chance of getting yourself in a bad spot is worth the extra time and money to me.

Yes, I do have a CHL and I practice every chance I get with my carry weapon. I just don't see the point of turning some guy loose with a gun unless he's shown knowledge of being able to operate it safely. The shooting portion of the course may be a bit weak, but it lets the instructors see that you aren't a total tard and have at least a basic knowledge of firearms and the safe use thereof.
I absolutely agree that it doesn't have any impact on someone's ability or competency to carry responsibly.

Yeah, the required score is pretty low. I think I scored a 250, my CHL insturctor said he's never had some one fail, but he has had to have them.... try again.

There are plenty of yahoos running around Texas who don't need a chl either....once again, the burden of responsibilty is on the individual. I have never heard of anyone not passing the shooting portion of the class. Even the people who have never even handled a weapon before. THAT should give your pause...not whether or not some is "lazy" because they decided to choose an option recognized by our state!

Why else besides cost would you not chose your own states CHL? To lazy I say. Cost factor is bs. You will spend a fortune on a gun but not enough to secure your home states CHL? Well go for it and get the Utah. Ill tell you one thing if I ever had to shoot someone in self defense Ill be a step ahead with my Texas CHL than another states CHL.

I see the light! You've convinced me Jake!.....sigh....

Im glad to be of service. Why wont you take the Texas Chl class?

I have a TX chl, and have for years! It's not about being lazy at all to consider Utah. It's about having a choice.
Stick a fork in me, I'm done!

I knew I could were you down. As for choices yes I agree but dont be lazy choose the best. TEXAS!!!!!