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GAME CAMERAS #193747 07/16/07 09:56 PM
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I'm looking at buying Moultrie or Stealth cameras to place near my feeders.Is anyone using or have any advice about either?Anyone have another brand that they would recommend?Thanks..


Re: GAME CAMERAS [Re: ksk] #193748 07/17/07 12:30 PM
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My experience with the Moultree's hasn't been very good but your results may not be the same.
The Stealth Cam I450 is a good camera for the money and takes excellent video's if your interested in that.
The new Predator Cam is supposed to be the cream of the crop but they are just starting to hit the market and they are spendy with a price tag of $425. I'm thinking about one but I am finding it difficult to justify the price.

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Re: GAME CAMERAS [Re: MikeC] #193749 07/17/07 02:03 PM
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I have a moultrie game spy 200 and that thing takes really good pics, battery life is ok. I would invest in one if I were you!


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I've got two of the Moultries. I like 'em for the price. Put a solar panel on it and forget about having to change batteries. Mine has been out over a year on the same battery with a solar panel.


Re: GAME CAMERAS [Re: tgil] #193751 07/17/07 04:53 PM
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My Moultree worked well for the first year but then for reasons unknown to me it started giving me all sorts of problems. Maybe it just got tired of seeing my ugly mug.

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Re: GAME CAMERAS [Re: MikeC] #193752 07/17/07 08:58 PM
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i use a stealthcam and have been really happy with the results..i just had to learn how to use it well..after that i really enjoyed it..i wish i had a couple more to be honest with you...just remember , you will get what you pay for..




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I have 3 of the Stealth Cam's, I can't remember the model but they were like $199 at Bass Pro. I have the extra battery pack and bigger memory cards and they take a lot of pictures and work great. I am very happy with them.


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Cuddeback is right now one of the top of the line, and most dependable, and yes pricey!

Takes excellent pictures, and the no flash model works great!

You can use an SD card, and take along your digital hand held camera when you go to check your game cam, and swap out the one you have in the camera, and be able to view using the camera right on the spot, or wait until you get home and use your computer.

Digital is the only way to go. I used the stealth cam 35mm, and it worked for what it was intended, but got a lot of blank pictures and getting the film developed just to view the same deer or hogs, and only 25 or so exposures wasn't all that great!

Moultree feeders I've had nothing but problems with, and I would thus have a hard time trusting one of their cameras just because of the name brand!




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Re: GAME CAMERAS [Re: Jimbo] #193755 07/18/07 11:46 AM
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They don't seem to be saying to many good things about the newer cuddebacks over at Chasing Game .

I have no dog in this fight so it's just a FYI post.

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Re: GAME CAMERAS [Re: MikeC] #193756 07/18/07 04:39 PM
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Thanks guys for all the comments.Chasing game was very helpful also.Thanks again.


Re: GAME CAMERAS [Re: ksk] #193757 07/19/07 01:52 AM
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If you want to keep you budget low go with moultrie, their new IR cameras seem good. I've heard bad things about cuddeback but have never used them, I had stealth cams and will never use their product! They would take hundreds of pictures of nothing and would go through batteries in a week or two, sometimes a few days. I've also heard alot of talk about Predator but I sent them an email and have not gotten a response, not what I would like for customer service...going on a month now. Chasing Game is the best camera review site I've found, check there website regularly for updates on new models. Also Buckeye Cam has two standard trail cam models that are not quite as expensive as the wireless models. I'll tell you this, you can buy a cheaper camera and "may" get lucky and get a good one that works and lasts (year maybe), if you get a buckeye you don't take that chance. It's hard to explain how much better Buckeyes are, just look at all the review sites, and now magazines, they all list the Buckeye as #1.


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I've also heard alot of talk about Predator but I sent them an email and have not gotten a response, not what I would like for customer service...going on a month now




That's odd, I've emailed them twice and Perry has responded both times in a very timely manner. I'll most likely be giving them a try when they are out. If one of their component suppliers hadn't dropped the ball they would have already been on the market.

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Re: GAME CAMERAS [Re: MikeC] #193759 07/26/07 01:44 AM
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BPS has a Moultrie 3.1 for $69.98. I know i will buy 1 or 2


Re: GAME CAMERAS [Re: ciscooutdoorsman] #193760 08/08/07 12:28 PM
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With plenty of trail cameras to choose from, I would consider the five big factors when buying a new trail camera: image quality, trigger speed, user-friendliness, cost, and durability.

Other Options To Consider: battery life, built-in flash range, IR flash, sensing range (some cameras have a sensor that is more wide and others have a sensor that is more narrow but will sense objects farther out), movie capability, night vision, external battery pack?, rechargeable batteries?, solar panel hook up? megapixel upgrade, memory card capacity, mono-pod holder, Laser and IR aim for quick and precise camera set-up, time lapse mode, multi-shot pictures, upgradeable software, barometric pressure, temperature, moon phase, time, date, and onboard viewing of images. As you can see cameras have gotten very advanced since the old 35mm cameras

When deciding on what camera to buy, first and foremost, where is the camera going to be used? Is it going to be over a feeder, food plots, mineral sites, baited sites, or scrapes? Or is it going to be over trails, bottle necks, junction points, rub lines, transition areas, etc? The difference is, you don’t have to a fast trigger speed if you have deer coming in and stopping, if you are going to use the camera for the trail action then fast trigger time is going to be very important (though I believe it can be gotten around if you setup the camera properly)

How much do you care for the sharpness of the pictures? Trail cameras now run from .3 megapixels to 6 megapixels. Also the quality of lens is important because some cameras will have the same number of megapixels, but one camera may take “nicer” pictures than the other. You need to look at different pictures from different cameras and see where you draw the line in the quality of picture you want. (Look at night time and daytime photos)

How good are you with using electronic devices because you will find some trail cameras are easier to operate than others (in setting up and shutting down). Some cameras show you how many pictures they have taken on the front display while others you have to open up to see how many pictures have been taken (just another example of user friendless).

On durability, you want your camera to last more than a season or two so you want the case to be strong to take the beatings of Mother Nature as well as you want the parts to function properly and be reliable for a long time.

I don’t know if you are putting out your camera where it gets real cold in the winter but powering your trail camera can be an issue. Batteries can be costly, but longevity is important when outside temperatures rise and fall dramatically. Although expensive, good batteries are necessary to ensure that your camera works all the time (if you go the rechargeable D battery route get at least a 2500 mah rating) UPDATE ON BATTERIES (RECHAREABLE ENGERGIZER D BATTERIES WITH 2500 MAH ARE NOT WORTH THE MONEY LASTED ABOUT 300 PITCTURES).

In the summer this is not a big deal. At warmer temperatures, cameras can run for a couple months without much concern. When temperatures drop below freezing, that's when you've got to keep a close eye on your power source. Extreme cold winter temperatures can wreak havoc on battery life. Your will find out long battery life is a very important thing to have (even if you do have your camera close by).

Then, decide how much you care about infra red flashes. With plenty of trail cameras to choose from, I would consider the five big factors when buying a new trail camera: image quality, trigger speed, user-friendliness, cost, and durability.

Other Options To Consider: battery life, built-in flash range, sensing range (some cameras have a sensor that is more wide and others have a sensor that is more narrow but will sense objects farther out), movie capability, night vision, external battery pack?, rechargeable batteries?, solar panel hook up? megapixel upgrade, memory card capacity, mono-pod holder, Laser and IR aim for quick and precise camera set-up, time lapse mode, multi-shot pictures, upgradeable software, barometric pressure, temperature, moon phase, time, date, and onboard viewing of images. As you can see cameras have gotten very advanced since the old 35mm cameras

When deciding on what camera to buy, first and foremost, where is the camera going to be used? Is it going to be over a feeder, food plots, mineral sites, baited sites, or scrapes? Or is it going to be over trails, bottle necks, junction points, rub lines, transition areas, etc? The difference is, you don’t have to a fast trigger speed if you have deer coming in and stopping, if you are going to use the camera for the trail action then fast trigger time is going to be very important (though I believe it can be gotten around if you setup the camera properly)

How much do you care for the sharpness of the pictures? Trail cameras now run from .3 megapixels to 6 megapixels. Also the quality of lens is important because some cameras will have the same number of megapixels, but one camera may take “nicer” pictures than the other. You need to look at different pictures from different cameras and see where you draw the line in the quality of picture you want. (Look at night time and daytime photos)

How good are you with using electronic devices because you will find some trail cameras are easier to operate than others (in setting up and shutting down). Some cameras show you how many pictures they have taken on the front display while others you have to open up to see how many pictures have been taken (just another example of user friendless).

On durability, you want your camera to last more than a season or two so you want the case to be strong to take the beatings of Mother Nature as well as you want the parts to function properly and be reliable for a long time.

I don’t know if you are putting out your camera where it gets real cold in the winter but powering your trail camera can be an issue. Batteries can be costly, but longevity is important when outside temperatures rise and fall dramatically. Although expensive, good batteries are necessary to ensure that your camera works all the time (if you go the rechargeable D battery route get at least a 2500 mah rating) UPDATE ON BATTERIES (RECHAREABLE ENGERGIZER D BATTERIES WITH 2500 MAH ARE NOT WORTH THE MONEY LASTED ABOUT 300 PITCTURES).

In the summer this is not a big deal. At warmer temperatures, cameras can run for a couple months without much concern. When temperatures drop below freezing, that's when you've got to keep a close eye on your power source. Extreme cold winter temperatures can wreak havoc on battery life. Your will find out long battery life is a very important thing to have (even if you do have your camera close by).

Then, decide how much you care about having a camera with infrared flashes. IR cameras collect high-resolution images without fear of a big white flash spooking the game you photograph (I have been impressed with a lot of the new IR pictures). The infrared flash is invisible, yet capable of capturing quality images of game up to around 30 ft (There is a little red light that comes up for a second or two and supposedly can only seen when you are directly in front of the camera and looking at it). Is the camera going to be on public land or somewhere where a neighbor or passing bystander might see it and want to steal it or deep in the woods on your own private property where you never see anyone ever? If you are worried about it being stolen or spooking wildlife, IR may be the way to go, by your camera not flashing and being as noticed by wildlife as well as people.

Some people go homebrew (there are ups and downs to homebrew), some people like the high end cameras like Camtrakker or Buckeye cam, and some just want the cheapest ones they can find. Saying that, it all comes down to preference (and what your goals and objectives for the camera are), some people will sway you to this camera while another will say this camera, it’s up to you to decide.

Go to www.chasingame.com to check out pictures and reviews of different cameras.

For me, Moultrie has stepped up their game in their trail cameras, so I would check out the New 07’ Moultrie Line
*(I40)*


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