texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
pedersencopycat, shespin, meskndave, Bigscott, BigTXN
73167 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 110,840
bill oxner 91,416
SnakeWrangler 68,194
stxranchman 60,296
Gravytrain 46,950
Stub 46,429
RKHarm24 44,585
rifleman 44,461
Forum Statistics
Forums46
Topics552,140
Posts9,900,750
Members88,167
Most Online28,231
Feb 7th, 2025
Print Thread
Explanation on Scopes #1922563 12/15/10 05:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 118
B
Bubbamaniac Offline OP
Woodsman
OP Offline
Woodsman
B
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 118
So what does a 50mm lense do that a 40mm lense wont. If you had a choice which would you get.


Last edited by Bubbamaniac; 12/15/10 06:05 AM.

Re: Explanation on Scopes [Re: Bubbamaniac] #1922587 12/15/10 06:40 AM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,273
B
bwk1975 Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
B
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,273
Let's in more light, better for lower light shooting situations. I have a 50mm on my ar, cause i shoot a lot at night hunting coyotes and pigs.


Re: Explanation on Scopes [Re: bwk1975] #1925352 12/16/10 01:55 AM
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 11,124
L
LandPirate Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
L
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 11,124
If you read the independent studies and comparisons they will tell you that the perceptible difference in light transmission between a 40mm and 50mm is almost imperceptible to the human eye.

With that said, save the $100 or so bucks that you'd pay for the 50mm over the 40mm and buy a better quality scope with better glass. The better the glass the more light will be transmitted through it.



Mike
Buda, Tx
Hunt near Freer
Re: Explanation on Scopes [Re: LandPirate] #1925480 12/16/10 02:24 AM
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 94
T
T3 Surf Rods Offline
Outdoorsman
Offline
Outdoorsman
T
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 94
50mm lense and 30mm tupe will have more light going thru, better than 40mm with one inch tupe size..my 2cen


Re: Explanation on Scopes [Re: T3 Surf Rods] #1925594 12/16/10 02:54 AM
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 11,124
L
LandPirate Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
L
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 11,124
http://www.leupold.com/leupoldtv/videos-by-topic/product-showcase-videos/

Scroll to the video titled: "Boone & Crockett: Large Objective Lenses". It's a short minute and a half long and gives a good explanation.



Mike
Buda, Tx
Hunt near Freer
Re: Explanation on Scopes [Re: T3 Surf Rods] #1925597 12/16/10 02:55 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 43,263
J.G. Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 43,263
50mm objective = more light transmission

30mm tube = stronger tube (cause it's bigger than 1") and more veritcal travel for the elevation turret



[Linked Image]
800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available
Re: Explanation on Scopes [Re: LandPirate] #1925958 12/16/10 04:36 AM
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,954
H
huntwest Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
H
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,954
Originally Posted By: LandPirate
If you read the independent studies and comparisons they will tell you that the perceptible difference in light transmission between a 40mm and 50mm is almost imperceptible to the human eye.

With that said, save the $100 or so bucks that you'd pay for the 50mm over the 40mm and buy a better quality scope with better glass. The better the glass the more light will be transmitted through it.


LandPirate is right. A 1" tube scope will only allow a certain amount of light to the eye and a 42mm objective is the optimum size. To check this out take 2 exact brand scopes one with a 50 and one with a 40. Slide a card from the bottom up until there is no more light . The card will be covering about 2/3 of the 50mm lens and all of the 40mm.
Cool test. A true 30mm tube will let in more light with a 50mm objective but that is a different animal.


Re: Explanation on Scopes [Re: LandPirate] #1925987 12/16/10 04:47 AM
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,203
K
Koenig Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
K
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,203
Originally Posted By: LandPirate
If you read the independent studies and comparisons they will tell you that the perceptible difference in light transmission between a 40mm and 50mm is almost imperceptible to the human eye.

With that said, save the $100 or so bucks that you'd pay for the 50mm over the 40mm and buy a better quality scope with better glass. The better the glass the more light will be transmitted through it.





Originally Posted By: SnakeWrangler
never trust a man that rents pigs....
Re: Explanation on Scopes [Re: Koenig] #1925999 12/16/10 04:53 AM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 515
C
coyotekiller Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
C
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 515
the 30mm tube is more important than the 50mm objective. Of course you could always go with a 34mm tube and 56mm objective!!!



HD Coating & Firearms
Re: Explanation on Scopes [Re: Bubbamaniac] #1934746 12/19/10 05:58 AM
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,180
Y
yukons95 Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
Y
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,180
If you look through a very high quality scope, maybe a nothing that would make any difference but just a higher mounted scope!


Re: Explanation on Scopes [Re: yukons95] #1934778 12/19/10 06:54 AM
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,160
G
gbeard Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
G
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,160
You will not tell the difference between light gathering capabilities bwtween a 40 or 50 mm objective.


Re: Explanation on Scopes [Re: gbeard] #1934915 12/19/10 02:07 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 5,857
C
cmc Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
C
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 5,857
50 looks cooler. Light transmission is in the tube.


Re: Explanation on Scopes [Re: cmc] #1935065 12/19/10 03:51 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,793
C
ccoker Offline
Extreme Tracker
Offline
Extreme Tracker
C
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,793
30mm tube doesn't have anything to do with improving low light performance, more internal adjustment and it's stronger (never seen a 1" fail personally)

assuming the same glass and at the higher magnification levels a 50 IS brighter than a 40

i.e., a 3-9x40 vs 3-9x50
at 6x, probably no percievable difference, but at the top end, yes

You can't test during the day, take scopes out in the field and watch deer at dusk into darkness







Last edited by ccoker; 12/19/10 04:01 PM.
Re: Explanation on Scopes [Re: ccoker] #1935286 12/19/10 06:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,450
TexasTransplant Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,450
Larger tube providers room for larger adjustment range. Assuming the tubing isn't made too thin to compensate for weight, larger tubes are also generally stronger.

Larger lenses can gether more light, but that doesn't mean that they do. Lense quality and coating both play a major role. Cheapos are about 90% efficient. Quality stuff is more like 95% and the spendy stuff is more like 98%.

However, exit pupil is also key to light and often overlooked. You want an exit pupil diameter that's at least as big as your eye will dilate under the circumstances. To calculate exit pupil size, divide the objective lense size by your chosen magnification level. You want a result that is no less than 4mm. The younger you are, the more your eyes can dilate, up to around 7mm will work for the kids.

Examples:
40mm scope at 3x, 6x, 9x gives exit pupil sizes of 13.33mm, 6.67mm, 4.44mm.
50mm scope at 6x, 9x, 11.26x gives exit pupil sizes of 8.33mm, 5.56mm, 4.44mm.

You get to run 11x instead of 9x for the same exit pupil size on a 50mm versus a 40mm.





She was only a whiskey maker, but he loved her still.
Re: Explanation on Scopes [Re: TexasTransplant] #1935449 12/19/10 07:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 118
B
Bubbamaniac Offline OP
Woodsman
OP Offline
Woodsman
B
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 118
What magnification do most use when hunting at 100 yards. Ive got a cheap bushnell 4-12x40 and the last 3 deer ive shot (105, 120 yard shots) i had it magnified at 6x. I want to get a nikon and im considering either the 4-12x40 prostaff or the 3-9x40 monarch. This is on a 270.



Re: Explanation on Scopes [Re: Bubbamaniac] #1935577 12/19/10 08:38 PM
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 9,763
T
Tin Head Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
T
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 9,763
Originally Posted By: Bubbamaniac
So what does a 50mm lense do that a 40mm lense wont. If you had a choice which would you get.
Check here these guys have a lot of tools for learning about scopes. Also use their search engine for best product and price.
http://www.opticsplanet.net/how-to-choose-riflescope.html

Also check here after you found what you want and the price you want and see if these guys will beat or match the price. I believe they are a local company.
http://swfa.com/default.aspx



[Linked Image]
Re: Explanation on Scopes [Re: Bubbamaniac] #1935995 12/19/10 11:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,450
TexasTransplant Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,450
Originally Posted By: Bubbamaniac
What magnification do most use when hunting at 100 yards. Ive got a cheap bushnell 4-12x40 and the last 3 deer ive shot (105, 120 yard shots) i had it magnified at 6x. I want to get a nikon and im considering either the 4-12x40 prostaff or the 3-9x40 monarch. This is on a 270.


I have been using a straight 4x for about 25 years for general hunting under 200 yards.





She was only a whiskey maker, but he loved her still.
Re: Explanation on Scopes [Re: TexasTransplant] #1937351 12/20/10 02:29 PM
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,324
C
C B Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
C
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,324
I have been using a straight 4x for about 25 years for general hunting under 200 yards. [/quote]

I know a few old timers that have hunted Texas and Colorado for more than 40 years that swear by fixed 4x or 6x scopes. It's hard to argue with them. 6x is more than enough power to shoot 200 yards


Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 2004-2024 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3