I would rather they destroy and test 75 deer then 750 or 7,500 or 75,000. The lawbreakers should be paying for the destruction and testing as well. After all it wouldn't be necessary but for their selfish criminal act.

No, not hunters I have visiting. I participate on a number of out of state forums and just stating the overall attitude on those other boards. I think some of what they have to say has merit and alot of it is out of jealousy.

Everytime there is a big deer taken from Texas, everyone assumes it is from a high fence and/or breeder operation. I try to tell them that most of the hunters in Texas deal with the same issues as them but they chose to believe otherwise ie, hunting small parcel of land, high hunter density and high pressured deer. They think everyone is hunting on thousands of acres, sit in a stand and what for the feeder to go off, and shoot a 130" or better buck within the first 10 minutes of the season. In other words we are spoiled and lazy when it comes to hunting. It is really bad in states that do not allow baiting.

Whenever I post things that have to do with facts of hunting in Texas the thread(s) will suddenly become dead. The choose what they want to believe. Until I started participating on these boards, I had no idea we where viewed as we are. There is a lot of "if its brown its down" mentality which I have no problem with. I dont hunt that way and chose to manage my place differently and dont understand why they would ever call what I do is deer farming. I let my bucks mature and I provide supplemental feed to them most of the year. How is that deer farming? I put in probably 50-55 legitimate days hunting each season and I may or may not take a buck.

The kind of publicity the original topic was about is what will make the headlines and sully our reputation more. I hate it.

I think I have read this but Im not a subscriber. Was this about Trophy deer management vs Quality deer management? I have tried to explain to these guys out of state that most of what is going on in Texas is QDM and not TDM(IDM).

RTP - That's likely the one.

Here is a previous discussion on another case explaining some of the serious problems surrounding a CWD outbreak or Quarantine.


CWD

Its kind of funny. You bring a deer across state lines, you'll go to prison. You bring a person across the border illegally, they get welfare, and healthcare. Makes ya wonder.

The deer come from Arkansas where there has never been a case of CWD. Besides that it has been way past time for the deer to be sick if they had it.

These idiots brought the deer across illegally. They shouldnt be released. Test them all. The owners should be the ones paying restitution to state for the time and effort to investigate, prosecute, and ultimately deal with their animals.

Something that could be scary is:
Why did they wait several years to euthanzie this group in ET.
Did it have something to do with test result they got back from RGV ranch group? (These were resent illegal imports).
Or is it that they are finding more CWD in the area either group came from.
Meaning the biologist are not telling us all yet??

They have been fighting the state in court since this happened originally. State finally won. That's why it has taken so long.

Sad thing to me is, if the deer had walked here from Arkansas they'd be legal.

I want to know why the state would eithanize, when they could take some kids out and let them hunt. May have something to do with the land they reside on, but its a shame to let some good deer simply be put down, when there are many kids who would love to have the chance, especially out there where there arent that many deer.

These are tame deer inside a large pen with black tarp on the fence. I saw the news story.

X2, Exactly what I was thinking.....

The real shame is that deer hunting is taking on aspects of just another big business. Tame deer, high fences, like livestock, bought, sold, and traded. There was a time......never mind.

Just a sad story any way you look at it!

I'm with retfuz...

upsetting is the only thing that comes to mind TPWD can spend money on nonsense but to test these deer is to much! just upsetting and I understand the damage that could be done IF one animal had an issue but it's completely unknown weather or not there is an issue... I hope there is a loop hole and they get the scum baggiest lawyer to sue the out of the state and win!

Edited by Mr. Clean....As stated in the rules, bypassing the language filters is a no-no. This is your warning.

I am as dissapointed as anyone that these magnificent animals met their fate in the manner that they did. I am also convinced that the deer, not a single one had CWD as the TPWD was worried about....also, if the deer had walked over from Arkansas then everything would be fine!!?

However, rules are set in place for a reason, Deer Hunting in Texas is a Billion dollar a year business for this state and Many Ranches have their entire livelyhood tied up in deer hunting. "IF" one of these deer had been infected then it could bring the Texas deer population to it's knees, thus ruining an economical flow that this state is as dependant upon same as oil..... in my opinion.

You want to get mad, get mad at the dip sticks that broke the rules in the first place by illegally importing deer across state lines. Sure TPWD "could" have given a Kitchen pass to these deer and released them or sold them or whatever, but what happens next time....WHEN THERE is ONE DEER that is sick? They must maintain the standard for others to follow, break that standard just once and the dam breaks and everything gets washed away with it.

It's not easy seeing innocent animals slain for a reason we disagree with or do not understand. However, after growing up in New Mexico and seeing First hand what CWD has done to the Mule Deer Popoulation there, I can tell you I applaud the TPWD for maintaining their standards and doing what I believe to have been the "right thing." Just Saying.

Very nicely stated.

I drive by that place almost everyday on the way to work. I have heard some not so nice things about the guys who were running that place that I wont repeat on here. They broke the law and TPWD is enforcing that law period. I dont feel sorry for them one bit. I hunt public land that is very close to that place and I would not be a happy camper if the deer I've been hunting got sick cause of those guys' selfishness

Great point Sig.

Good job TPWD
Bad job scumbags
Stop high fences and breeding, mother nature or the governement eventually going to screw us

and if a frog had wings it wouldnt bust his butt when he landed. 2 different issues all together

here's a link to the follow up story..
http://www.wfaa.com/video?id=111421344&sec=600682

seems like a better kill process could have been used