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Breeder Bucks to be euthanized #1885138 12/03/10 04:01 AM
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I know where this place is, doing a job out that way now, didnt realize all of this was going on.



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Crazy and scary at the same time.


Re: Breeder Bucks to be euthanized [Re: LosCuernosRanch] #1885166 12/03/10 04:09 AM
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First story on the 10 o clock news CH 8 in the DFW



As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind...Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks--Thomas Jefferson
Re: Breeder Bucks to be euthanized [Re: Rowney] #1885202 12/03/10 04:25 AM
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Even the game warden said there was no sign of the disease but the TP&W is still gonna do it.
That's about right. Did I hear the word "economy" in there?
Not that anyone wants CWD in our deer herds but........


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Re: Breeder Bucks to be euthanized [Re: Curly] #1885220 12/03/10 04:34 AM
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They broke the law. They brought in illegal deer and co-mingled them with their deer so now they have to destroy the whole herd. They knew what they were doing was wrong and got caught. Just a bad deal for the deer as they did nothing wrong and they have to pay with their lives.



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You would think they could catch them and test them on the news report they were able to walk right up to them


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Originally Posted By: Buckfvr
You would think they could catch them and test them on the news report they were able to walk right up to them

You have to kill them to test them. Need an Obex (sp) to test and it can't come from a live animal without killing it.



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Re: Breeder Bucks to be euthanized [Re: stxranchman] #1885232 12/03/10 04:37 AM
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Up in Alberta where I run there is CWD...Game wardens culled 1600 deer in the last 2 years out of my zones..well the Sask side wasn't culling so deer were crossing over into Alberta...anyways, my guide shot a deer this year that looks like it had it...middle of the day, deer is shaking its head side ways and up and down and acting weird....Bad stuff guys...Ate good though!!!


Re: Breeder Bucks to be euthanized [Re: stxranchman] #1885241 12/03/10 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
They broke the law. They brought in illegal deer and co-mingled them with their deer so now they have to destroy the whole herd. They knew what they were doing was wrong and got caught. Just a bad deal for the deer as they did nothing wrong and they have to pay with their lives.


Fine and/or arrest the law breakers, test the deer, if positive, destroy them, if negative, let them go. It's that simple.


Re: Breeder Bucks to be euthanized [Re: Curly] #1885246 12/03/10 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted By: Curly
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
They broke the law. They brought in illegal deer and co-mingled them with their deer so now they have to destroy the whole herd. They knew what they were doing was wrong and got caught. Just a bad deal for the deer as they did nothing wrong and they have to pay with their lives.


Fine and/or arrest the law breakers, test the deer, if positive, destroy them, if negative, let them go. It's that simple.


If you have to kill them to test them then that wouldn't work


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Originally Posted By: Curly
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They broke the law. They brought in illegal deer and co-mingled them with their deer so now they have to destroy the whole herd. They knew what they were doing was wrong and got caught. Just a bad deal for the deer as they did nothing wrong and they have to pay with their lives.


Fine and/or arrest the law breakers, test the deer, if positive, destroy them, if negative, let them go. It's that simple.

You have to kill the deer or the deer has to be dead to remove the Obex to test it. Lawbreakers are in jail as they should be. Since the deer were illegally brought into the state with the borders closed then they have to be destroyed and tested. Can't take them back either as the borders are closed for moving deer in or out. Not a good deal for the deer like I said as they did nothing wrong. They pay the ultimate price for someones greed or arrogance.



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Re: Breeder Bucks to be euthanized [Re: stxranchman] #1885260 12/03/10 04:51 AM
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Oh, my bad. Yeh, bad deal for the deer then.


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sounds like a bunch of [censored] to me!!


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Eight years ago!?!? Seems a little late to be stopping a disease that could be so devestating. If they are so worried about it the herd should have been put down and tested long before these guys even had time for a trial.


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TPW does this on every place that deer are suspected to be brought across state lines, not just this place. Rules are rules. At least the breeders know what will happen if they are caught. I think it is good that they stick to their guns. Just think if the border patrol was that effective. Do you think we would have all the illegal immigrants if they knew they would be shot when caught here illegally? The TPW is doing the right thing, the breeders are not!


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How very unfortunate for the deer! It's a shame that they have to pay with their lives for a stupid, foolish and utterly greedy act!!! I think the breeders got what they deserved, but why is the wife not being charged or indicted? I think they should be banned from breeding for such ignorance!!!



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Open the gate & let them go, when the TP&W show up Monday tell them someone left the gate open...


Re: Breeder Bucks to be euthanized [Re: kp143631] #1887918 12/04/10 03:44 AM
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Call me crazy, but I watched the segment and there was one buck that I might have considered a breeder. The rest had jacked up racks/ inferior genetics (nothing I would have imagined that would be on a "breeder" ranch). I'm not sure why anyone would take that kinda risk for that type of deer. Either way, glad they were caught!


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Very sad all the way around. I personally dont like any of the breeding stuff going on. This is the kind of stuff people in other parts of the nation latch on to in forming their opinions of how we hunt here in Texas. Trust me, while we might think we have this growing big deer thing figured out, we are not looked upon with much respect by the rest of the nation. It has to do with the high fences and breeding operations. Everyone refers to us a deer farmers not hunters.



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And yet they continue to come here to hunt.


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Some do but most think what we do is not real hunting. Just another debate with no winner or right answer. Just someone trying to say their way of hunting is better.



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To wait 8 years to kill the deer for testing yea right
But there going to do what they want to do

BUT i belive if NONE of the deer test Postive
The state SHOULD pay for every deer they killed
At the same rate they charge a person for state
Replacement fines See if there so gunho about
killing 75 deer then


Re: Breeder Bucks to be euthanized [Re: rtp] #1889786 12/05/10 02:26 AM
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Some do but most think what we do is not real hunting. Just another debate with no winner or right answer. Just someone trying to say their way of hunting is better.

Are these "guys" someone who are hunting with you or just calling you to tell you their ways are better than yours and downgrade what you do? If they are here hunting then what is their beef since they paid their money and are here hunting? Just curious and not trying to get off topic.



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Originally Posted By: rtp
Some do but most think what we do is not real hunting. Just another debate with no winner or right answer. Just someone trying to say their way of hunting is better.


http://www.livestockweekly.com/papers/10/03/11/whl11deerstudygroup.asp

If you are a subscriber to livestock weekly you can read this article. It's an articulate presentation of the North American Model vs. the Texas Model of wildlife management.

Edit: It's long. The first half visits IDM and QDM.


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not the first time those dudes have been in trouble...


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