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Guess I stink #1851435 11/21/10 02:38 AM
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well I'm gettin really sick of gettin blown by does. It seems like if its pretty cold out they dont smell me but if its warm at all like this afternoon they get me every time.
Today a doe an yearlin came strait into the feed from upwind, then all of a sudden I guess the wind swirled an she caught a wiff so she walked stiff legged untill she got down wind of me an started snortin. bout that time i look up an see a nice buck at the edge of the tree line turn around an disaper. talk about pissed off.
so what all do yall do about sent control. I have always used sent away or sent killer spray when i get in the stand.
I dont have any of that fancy sent blocker clothing or any of that stuff.
Anyway just wantin some opinions on what yall use
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Are u in a ground or tree stand?


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Good question...tree stand or ground blind X2



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I have tried all those scent killer sprays and washes. The best thing I have found. Is where a good scent proof boot. Get as high in the air as you can. And last but not least try to hunt the wind. I killed a pretty good buck this year he can from downwind of me so I think its just being in the right place at the right time. Im not a pro at this stuff thats just my two cents. Hope this helps.


Re: Guess I stink [Re: rayman2346] #1852104 11/21/10 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: rayman2346
I have tried all those scent killer sprays and washes. The best thing I have found. Is where a good scent proof boot. Get as high in the air as you can. And last but not least try to hunt the wind. I killed a pretty good buck this year he can from downwind of me so I think its just being in the right place at the right time. Im not a pro at this stuff thats just my two cents. Hope this helps.


I agree about the boots, and getting high as you can... I do you scent killer and wash clothes with scent killer soap and bathe in scent free soap. But the boots and getting high.
I rarely get busted.


Re: Guess I stink [Re: bjankowski] #1852180 11/21/10 04:51 PM
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Not a pro by no means but this is what I do. Hunt wind first!!!! Wash cloths in scent free and dry them out side. Your going to think I'm crazy on the next one.... Brush your teeth and mouth with BAKING SODA real good!!! Been doing this this year and have not been busted near as much! My thinking is we do not have near the nose animals do and what is it we smell first when someone comes up to talk to us? Their breathe! Try it, I think it helps.


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Originally Posted By: cuthand1
Not a pro by no means but this is what I do. Hunt wind first!!!! Wash cloths in scent free and dry them out side. Your going to think I'm crazy on the next one.... Brush your teeth and mouth with BAKING SODA real good!!! Been doing this this year and have not been busted near as much! My thinking is we do not have near the nose animals do and what is it we smell first when someone comes up to talk to us? Their breathe! Try it, I think it helps.


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I use a scent control system, and skunk oil cover scent. Almost every deer that has come in has come in down wind this year. I haven't been busted yet.



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Re: Guess I stink [Re: passthru] #1854101 11/22/10 04:02 AM
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I normally hunt a trypod but it is only 10' off the ground. but I have a ground blind next to it that I hunt when its real cold.

I think part of my problem is that the stand and feeder have been in the same spot for the last 10 years and all the deer know it and know to go an check to see if someone is there or not.
So do you suggest the boots to keep them from smelling your track to the stand or just to help keep oder in while sittin in the stand?
I think I'm goin to try the laundry an body soap an maybe the bakin soda.
Also thinkin about movin my feeder an gettin a hangin stand up high in a tree, only problem is I dont have that many tall trees and hardly any of them are strait.
Also its hard to get any cover up high in a tree, do the deer just not notice you when you pretty high up. How high up do you need to be.
Thanks for all the responses,


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First question is do you hunt that same feeder every time? 10 years will educate the deer if that is true. Do they come in and look at the tripod? Get a 15 ft. ladder stand and set up by the feeder and leave that tripod there. Next question are the deer smelling the ground were you walk coming into your stand area. I usually step in cow crap two our three times walking to my stand. Try not to handle any limbs or brush up against anything with your hands or cloths. Hunting high is a great help but you still have to move slow or they will pickup your movement. Study the body language of the deer and move slowly when the heads down. The ears will tell you which way they are exspecting danger. They will feed but the ears will be moving like radars. Try the baking soda, taste kinda bad but you will get used to it! Good luck!!! Craig


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yes I normally hunt the same feeder, I have only had the tripod there for 3 years or so an most of them dont know im there. I have only been busted 1 time from movement in the tripod and it happend sat morning. A really nice 10pt came cruisin through about 9:15. I herd him coming from pretty far off so I came to full draw before he came out into the cearing but he took the wrong trail and I had no shot. I couldnt see him any more and I thought that he had kept on going but he had stoped just out of my site and was checking out the feeder, as he was basically down wind of it but not of me. Any way I finally got tired and let my draw down. well he saw me snorted an trotted off.
My trypod is prettey well hid and im pretty good at not movin but it is alot harder to get drawn on deer since your oppertunities are limited. But i like hunting in it so much better because i can see som much more. it gets boring sitting in box looking though a little hole.

oh an no the deer never smell where i have walked I have only had one deer cross the clearing where i walked in. they always travel just inside the tree line an I stay out in the midle of the opening an they rarly cross it.
My problem is the dam does are smart i see them come from the north but they will circle around 50 or 60 yards from the stand and come up from the south. they just know they have to check it out first before the come in. the bucks normally just check the wind on the feeder an then come in but the does always come far enough over to check out the stand.


Re: Guess I stink [Re: passthru] #1856143 11/22/10 10:55 PM
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I'm with Passthru only I use Raccoon urine. heard years ago that skunks only spray when they're scared and that will alarm deer as well....if he has great success though may just be an old wives tale though...



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Fitzgerald's Deer Dander up


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Sounds like just a matter of time before you stick him!!! I know what you mean about those old "horse head" does. They are smart!!!! Its harder to kill those where we hunt than it is to kill the bucks. We had a old doe for years that would circle our blinds and if she suspected ANYTHING she would blow and stomp for about 30 minutes. We named her "Blowing Bi_ch" I guess she finally died of old age. Good Luck!!!


Re: Guess I stink [Re: cuthand1] #1856420 11/23/10 12:54 AM
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good post. im doing my first bow/deer hunt tomm. and am scared to death of scent detection


Re: Guess I stink [Re: Texas Fight] #1856766 11/23/10 02:45 AM
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I know theres always one doe that ruins the whole hunt an then they wont go away they just stand out there out of range an blow. My dad got so mad a couple of years ago at this one old doe that he sat outside his stand with a muzzel loader an same as always the doe cirled around to get the wind an when she decided he wasnt in it she started toward the feeder. He removed her head with a 50 cal. ball lol. after that he started sein more deer.

Oh and I had skunk sent sprayed on the window of my carpet blind so it didnt work for me that day.
That or she didnt like skunks.


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Ain't no tree's out here so your hunting on the ground. But we have a ton of cedars and oil wells and I use them to my advantage. I like to walk up to a well head and get a little oil on my boot, or take fresh cedar and crush it up and rub it all over. Another trick is to step in a couple of cow pie's.



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Skunks only squirt when defending. Some deer will spook at it. HWY_MAN is correct though. The cedar and the cow patties are your friends.

I use skunk a lot though.



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Re: Guess I stink [Re: passthru] #1858216 11/23/10 05:03 PM
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i hunt out of a tree stand that gets me 15 ft up in the air. the higher you get the better off you are imo... i use tinks69 around the tree under me for my cover scent. step in cow poop about three times on my way to the stand. i also spray myself with 99% scent killer before i start walking and again once i get into the stand. we have had 25 mph wind this past wknd and i still have not been busted. that's what i do, so i hope it helps... happy hunting!


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Well we aint got no cows on the place so steppin in da poo wont work. an my tripod is set up in the middle of a huge ceder tree, i did use some ceder smellin spray some a couple of years ago but my budies that went huntin with me were elergic to it an would sneez the whole time so i quit. maybe ill get some more.

Do any of yall use any of that sentblocker clothing? does it work or is it just expensive camo?

also thought i might add that one of the bucks that did come in on sat mornin was a melanistic (solid black) 9pt. He never gave me the oppertunity to draw on him, he walked strait up to the feeder from the rear an ate for 5 min facing me then turned strait around an walked strait away. I gunted when he was about 30yrds out thinkin he would stop an turn but all he did was turn his head an look at me then kept on walkin. im goin back tomorrow night so hopefully Ill have nice pic up with me in the background.


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Could it be that they are "skylighting" you from a certain angle when you hunt the tripod?


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No there is still quite a bit of brush behind me since im only 10' off the ground.


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I use scent blocker clothing. It can get a little hot, but I am sold on it. I also wear the hood which contains your breath. I agree on the rubber boots, and I spray dead down wind scent killer around cuffs, collars, and zippers. Good luck!


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Ya thats one of the main problems i have with it. It is hot most of the season here in texas, or at least the first half and that seems to be the time I have the most trouble with gettin busted.

I guess its just hard to make sent proof clothing that breaths. Well Ill see how it goes in the mornin, I wish that front would come through before daylight but I dont think it will make it before noon.


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I gain my biggest advantage by not being where the deer expect me to be. Any deer will bust your stand within a couple of days. Once they've spotted you in your stand, you cannot hide. I used a ladder stand and moved it around within a 50 acre area to sit on trails. I never left the stand in the same location 2 weekends in a row. Now I build several brush blinds and rotate through them as deer movement dictates.

It's a hard habit to break but if you're hunting a feeder, you don't have to be watching the feeder. You best bet for calm deer is to intercept them on their way to the feeder.



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