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Frustration of multiple stands #1830230 11/13/10 06:44 PM
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On a piece of property my family owns, I'm the only hunter. It's less than an hour from the house and has become my favorite place to hunt. I've set up 7 decent spots to hunt, with stands on 4 of them, feeders at all but one, and use a pop-up to mix it up occasionally.

Debated all the way there this morning about which stand to hunt. Finally decided on one that was my original stand when I first started hunting this property many years ago.

Saw three young bucks, three does, and that was it. Not a bad morning.

Bumped into my neighbor on my way out of the gate. I have a one stand that he can see real well from his property. He described a "monster" that was around that stand for half an hour this morning. He knows I'm picky, saw me go in the gate, and kept waiting to hear a shot.

Really wishing I wouldn't have talked with my neighbor. Have a really good buck on camera at another feeder and had my mind made up to hunt that stand tomorrow. I'm sure I'll be debating what to do while I drive up in the morning.


Re: Frustration of multiple stands [Re: KennyLee] #1830343 11/13/10 08:24 PM
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i have the same problem but only 3 spots put cameras at both feeders i had to take the cards out over the weekends cause everytime i'd not see anything the other feeder would have a giant buck





Re: Frustration of multiple stands [Re: redseal] #1831271 11/14/10 07:10 AM
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well i just stick to 1 stand, if your the only 1 hunting the property, and the rut is on the way. your gonna see the big guy. if you keep jumping around you could push him out of the area.
just my 2 cents.



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Re: Frustration of multiple stands [Re: TJB] #1831289 11/14/10 10:20 AM
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How big is the place?

Sometimes size matters when deer hunting, and unless you are on a huge ranch with multiple stands a smaller place won't really matter as much, and it is mainly being in the right place at the right time sort of thing, and chances are a buck will make the rounds to all your feeders sooner or later to check for a hot doe.




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Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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It's about 500 acres (we're really not sure, hasn't been surveyed since the 20's). Not real big, but not all that small either. It actually seems larger than that because of topography and the fact that it's shaped like a giant Z.

I like to switch it up, usually based on pressure of neighbors. My "favorite" stand is close to neighbors that hunt, so I've been staying out of it because of that. However, that's exactly where the deer was seen yesterday.


Re: Frustration of multiple stands [Re: KennyLee] #1831291 11/14/10 10:33 AM
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I'd concentrate on your favorite stand then because its a proven stand, and I would only switch off to the others when your favorite stand cools off.

We've got one "hot stand" on our place that sees most of the action, and I stay with it until it cools off.




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Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
Re: Frustration of multiple stands [Re: Jimbo] #1831295 11/14/10 11:18 AM
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Like has been said here I think the key is the rut and the doe. I would hunt closer to the area he was seen in though. He may not roam but that area to start. Also I would try to rattle him in as that would be my prefered way to take him since you like to switch it up. I would sneak into that area he was seen at and try it not to far away from that feeder to start and just ease around from spot to spot. If he is not chasing a doe and it one of the dominant bucks and you catch him on the right day he will come and check out the rattling.



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Re: Frustration of multiple stands [Re: stxranchman] #1831301 11/14/10 12:04 PM
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Deer will bed and travel based on wind directions, and they use trails that coincide with the wind directions.

When you factor current rubs and scrapes with current signs and use the wind, your odds improve.

If you don't have multiple plans on how to sit to hunt an area, you'll be busted more than not if you haven't factored in multiple wind directions during the season.


Re: Frustration of multiple stands [Re: Hookem'UTbass] #1831428 11/14/10 02:52 PM
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Ok Kenny you need some help. No way around it. I am available any day next week. Just kidding.
I would have the same problem with 2 stands. I would be thinking about what was at the other stand the whole time.


Re: Frustration of multiple stands [Re: ctownboy] #1831436 11/14/10 02:58 PM
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To many Kenny IMO, just adds to the ratio, cut back and your chances are greater for the big one, especialy if you are the only hunter.


Re: Frustration of multiple stands [Re: dgilbert] #1836602 11/16/10 04:01 AM
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Deer will move around and be at all places at one point or another. It is impossible to predict when. I like to pick a stand and stick with it because I know at some point that buck will come by. You just have to spend enough time in the field to be there when it happens. I feel that if you keep jumping around that you will keep up missing him and spreading your scent everywhere. Good luck and hope you get'em.


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That's why they call it hunting. It' all part of the challenge of deer hunting. If we always knew where the deer were and exactly when they would be there, it would not be nearly as much fun. It's when we scout and make a calculated plan that rewards us with a deer that gives us that great feeling of a successful hunt. Sounds to me like you have a good memory of that morning even if you did learn the big buck was somewhere else. That should just give you a little more information to make a plan for next time and now you know you could have a great experience ahead of you if your plan for the "Big One" works out for you. Good luck!


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Actually, each set-up is a bit unique. I don't have any blinds, just make-shift stands, tripods, and one large platform stand that I just acquired. I tend to hunt different stands based on different conditions, with the main one being wind.

I can't really hunt my favorite stand this year due to some neighbor issues ( http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1711332/1 ) as I just don't feel safe. So, I've been trying a few new spots this year.

Also, those neighbors who have set up a firing line along my fence have seemingly put a ton of pressure on the deer and after blasting away for the first few days of the season and they aren't seeing much of anything at this point. I have a feeder about 250 yards from them that usually gets 250-300 pictures per week all year long, but only had around 25 last week. Part of that is acorns, but I think a big part of it is pressure.

Like alot of places, we don't get a ton of activity at feeders until the acorns are gone. That usually tends to be around the first of December.


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Hey Kenny I read your link to the thread, and I'll just say this.

Don't take what that neighbor told you as gospel, as he may just be pulling you chain about seeing a "monster" near your stand, just to play mind games with you when you hear them shoot.




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Originally Posted By: Jimbo
Hey Kenny I read your link to the thread, and I'll just say this.

Don't take what that neighbor told you as gospel, as he may just be pulling you chain about seeing a "monster" near your stand, just to play mind games with you when you hear them shoot.


Oh, I think it's more about definition of a monster. I pulled the card on a game camera near that stand the next day and there was a pretty good looking buck that hit that feeder around the same time. I can see how he'd look big from a distance. He was probably 18 inches wide and has probably 12-14 inch G-2's. That said, his rack looks like that of a young mule deer in that it grows out and straight up, tiny brow-tines, long G-2's, then a crab-claw at the end of each beam. Pretty unique looking, but not nearly as big up close as he'd look from a distance. Definitely a mature buck though.

Given those guys are popping every 2.5 year old legal buck they see, I can see why he'd call it a "monster". I've tried talking with them, even showed them a picture of a big buck killed by another neighbor two years ago, just to try and cool off their trigger fingers. Unfortunately, I don't think it worked.

I imagine it'll sound like WWIII again Thanksgiving weekend.


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That's unfortunate, and why those nasty high fences keep sprouting up, but there isn't a whole lot you can do, and from the way it sounds like you did about as much as you could do to convince them to ease up on the trigger finger.

That said, exactly how much of their property butts up against your?

Would it be possible to high fence them between your property and theirs? That may be the only way to try and preserve your deer herd, and keep them off your fenceline.


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can be bad...I've got about 20 different stands to hunt spread out over 3 counties...one property with no stands, but plenty of climber set-up possibilities. Picking where to hunt can be a troubling task, but I usually pick my one stand where I can shoot a long ways and be able to see what comes out at two other feeders on the place that are too far for me to shoot to.


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Man, but ain't that a great problem to have!!!


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Originally Posted By: Jimbo
That's unfortunate, and why those nasty high fences keep sprouting up, but there isn't a whole lot you can do, and from the way it sounds like you did about as much as you could do to convince them to ease up on the trigger finger.

That said, exactly how much of their property butts up against your?

Would it be possible to high fence them between your property and theirs? That may be the only way to try and preserve your deer herd, and keep them off your fenceline.


I've considered it, but don't see it happening very soon. I only share about 550 yards of fence with them, but because of the topography, I'd need to high-fence that entire back section for it to be effective. Because of the strange shape, that would be about another 1,100 yards of fence. It's extrememly rough, rocky terrain, with multiple canyons/ravines, plus a good bit of elevation change. I would imagine it would cost me at least $30,000 and it would only really help that one part of my property.

Frankly, for $30,000 I'll just hunt the other side of my property and move away from them.


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The first thing I consider when deciding which stand to hunt is the direction of the wind. I never hunt a stand if the wind isn't in my favor. Next, I consider the sun and pick a stand where I won't be forced to look into it rising or setting. From there, I consider other factors, such as it's location relative to food sources, bedding areas, and travel routes.

But let me also say that I'm for the most part, not a food plot or feeder hunter. IMO, it's more a matter of luck in deciding which one will most likely pay off, short of using recent tracking camera photos. And even these can sometimes lead you to being in the wrong stand at the wrong time.



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Try to pick out a stand based on the logical solution about not wanting to spook the buck. Always consider bedding area, feeding area, direction of wind, neighbors hunting habits, rut on or off, etc. Take all of that into account and digest it and then pick your stand accordingly.



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Originally Posted By: driedmeat
Man, but ain't that a great problem to have!!!


yes if I'm hunting alone...no if my wife is in town with me.


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Originally Posted By: KennyLee
On a piece of property my family owns, I'm the only hunter. It's less than an hour from the house and has become my favorite place to hunt. I've set up 7 decent spots to hunt, with stands on 4 of them, feeders at all but one, and use a pop-up to mix it up occasionally.

Debated all the way there this morning about which stand to hunt. Finally decided on one that was my original stand when I first started hunting this property many years ago.

Saw three young bucks, three does, and that was it. Not a bad morning.

Bumped into my neighbor on my way out of the gate. I have a one stand that he can see real well from his property. He described a "monster" that was around that stand for half an hour this morning. He knows I'm picky, saw me go in the gate, and kept waiting to hear a shot.

Really wishing I wouldn't have talked with my neighbor. Have a really good buck on camera at another feeder and had my mind made up to hunt that stand tomorrow. I'm sure I'll be debating what to do while I drive up in the morning.
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