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ethics question
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11/17/10 04:51 AM
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shark 25-06
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is it ok to shoot a deer that is bedded down durring the day?
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Re: ethics question
[Re: shark 25-06]
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11/17/10 04:54 AM
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Justin T
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Is it okay to shoot a deer eating corn? Chasing a doe? Drinking water? Walking down a known trail?
I think there is nothing wrong with it. Fire at will.
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Re: ethics question
[Re: shark 25-06]
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11/17/10 04:56 AM
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is it ok to shoot a deer that is bedded down durring the day? That's actually a good question....a buddy of mine saw a huge doe bedded down one afternoon and could not bring himself to shoot it....is it any less ethical than shooting a buck that's chasing a doe trying to breed, or to shoot any deer that's eating under a feeder? As long as it's legal, it should totally be up to the hunter's discretion on whether or not it's ethical to take. In other words, could that hunter live with the decision?
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 04:56 AM
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If I'm not hunting something I must be dead.
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Re: ethics question
[Re: notamtchance]
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11/17/10 05:12 AM
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but to shoot a deer that is asleep just seems kind of unsportsman-like. i hardly shoot deer from a stand. ill feed an area for a few days then hunker down by a tree in the brush. i have been foiled a few times because of it. dont think that i am against shooting from a stand at deer under a feeder, i just havnt done it much.
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 05:27 AM
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It's all in a personal ethical code. I personally wouldn't do it but I also don't shoot does that have their fawns with them. Some stuff like that I just don't feel right doing but that's just me.
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 12:26 PM
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Confusious say deer sleeping is deer not running. Shoot.
I don't think it makes one iota of difference. The end result will be the same. The deer will be just as dead whether he's standing or sleeping.
Mike Buda, Tx Hunt near Freer
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 01:06 PM
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do deer ever actually sleep?
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 01:17 PM
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While laying down I would not shoot. I'd probably make just a little noise and wait until it stands. I know there is no difference really but, that's just my personal view.
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 01:52 PM
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Being that it ain't easy to sneak up on a bedded deer, I don't see it as unethical from a "free chase" perspective.
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 01:56 PM
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The only thing unethical about it is not having good access to a vital area of the deer and shooting anyway. If you have a good, quick killing shot, shoot the sucker.
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 01:58 PM
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The only thing unethical about it is not having good access to a vital area of the deer and shooting anyway. Good point. Chance shots are NEVER ethical.
"When the debate is lost, insults become the tool of the loser."
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 02:31 PM
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I personally wouldn't do it but I also don't shoot does that have their fawns with them. Have their faws with them as in right next to them or have a fawn? If you wont shoot a doe that has a fawn, you will only be shooting yearlings and ones too old to breed, and we dont see too many of those we have one that is ancient, getting skinny and still has a fawn every year. To the OP I say shoot away. Oh and trwoing corn for a few days and then hunting it works just like a blind and feeder to me, althou better. Deer at feeders get acustomed to the blind being there. I had an old blind at my last lease, built a new one but left the old one up. If you would make noise in the new blind the deer would still look at the old one, only worked for about a season though.
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 02:33 PM
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 02:45 PM
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My buddy and I watched 3 enormous bucks sprint by during the rut one year and then actually walked up on a big bruiser laying under a giant oak. He wasn't asleep - his head was upright and he was looking around. He looked beautiful there - one with nature and completely at peace and unaware of our existence. It was tough, but I feel like we did the "right" thing.
And turned him into sausage and hung his giant rack on the wall. Shoot away if you've got a good shot.
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 03:19 PM
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My buddy and I watched 3 enormous bucks sprint by during the rut one year and then actually walked up on a big bruiser laying under a giant oak. He wasn't asleep - his head was upright and he was looking around. He looked beautiful there - one with nature and completely at peace and unaware of our existence. It was tough, but I feel like we did the "right" thing.
And turned him into sausage and hung his giant rack on the wall. Shoot away if you've got a good shot. 
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 03:26 PM
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What Dan said:
1) Sneaking up on a bedded deer is usually very difficult and therefore very sporting
2) Unethical if you can't get a good shot
I would probably make a noise to get the deer to raise its head, or else just plan on a long wait for it to stand up.
If deer are like horses, then they need some deep sleep each day, lying down. They also can sleep lightly standing up.
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 04:57 PM
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We all only have 5 tags. as long as they are filled legally, I don't see what the problem is.
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 05:07 PM
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do deer ever actually sleep? No. But if you ever get to tranquilize one, they're some snoring fools. I wish I had shot video, it was a hoot!
Silver spurs and gold tequila keep me hanging on. Pretty girls and old cantinas give me shelter from the storm.
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Re: ethics question
[Re: shark 25-06]
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11/17/10 05:42 PM
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is it ok to shoot a deer that is bedded down durring the day? Yes sir!
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 06:38 PM
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Wow! I am surprised/ shocked at some of the comments on this post. What ever happened to the thrill of the hunt? Would you hit a guy with his back turned? How bout getting whacked in the head with a 2x4 while your sleeping? At least wait till he stands. It's post like some of these that give hunters a bad name. I can see this going over real well at home..."Yeah son, I popped him at 200 yds. while he was sleeping." Just my $.02
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 06:48 PM
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Wow! I am surprised/ shocked at some of the comments on this post. What ever happened to the thrill of the hunt? Would you hit a guy with his back turned? How bout getting whacked in the head with a 2x4 while your sleeping? At least wait till he stands. It's post like some of these that give hunters a bad name. I can see this going over real well at home..."Yeah son, I popped him at 200 yds. while he was sleeping." Just my $.02 Personaly I dont see the problem with it. Its not like when they are awake you chase them down and bite them on the neck. If you sneak in and are able to take the shot go for it. This doesnt even touch on the topic of ethics to me. I would do it in a heart beat.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: ethics question
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11/17/10 07:01 PM
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Wow! I am surprised/ shocked at some of the comments on this post. What ever happened to the thrill of the hunt? Would you hit a guy with his back turned? How bout getting whacked in the head with a 2x4 while your sleeping? At least wait till he stands. It's post like some of these that give hunters a bad name. I can see this going over real well at home..."Yeah son, I popped him at 200 yds. while he was sleeping." Just my $.02 X2...
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