gracias...we got a lead on one from a landowner this morning, so hopefully we can go find him. To keep it topic oriented...bout to head out with the Leicas, swarovski and a "zeiss-like" pair:)

You know that swaro is over priced junk I will pm you my address and you can send it to me to dispose of

Ya, if he was using the vortex razor he would be able to take a none blury 800 yard pic


to the OP...nobody is saying you can't kill deer with out high end optics, but high end optics or even middle grade optics make life much easier on your eyes when using them for extended viewing or even in less then par eviorments

lol...na, your top of the line zeiss, swaro and Leica are all going to be about the same....one thing for sure though...you don't skimp on the tripods for the swaro spotters... those heavy jokers will make one get loose in a hurry.

it's the dadgum eye relief on that spotting scope!!! think I figured it out this morning though...works much better if I bring it down from 60x to 20x.

Exactly but nothing like great optics!

X2 very clear, great light gathering. I did ALOT of looking before I bought mine.

A really good pair of Bino's are indispensable and will last for years if taken care of and cleaned correctly, if not by cheap and buy often.

Until i was able to buy my Swaro's 10x EL's i had Leu's, Nikon Steiner Predators etc. the mid level glass and was nearly comparable to the Swar's out to 100 - 200 max. Clear, sharp comparable but no where near the same image quality. With the Swar's I can sit on a ridge and count eye guards and kickers at 500 yds. Easy, Clear Sharp perfect images all afternoon. Everybody in the 5 years i've had 'em, not a single person has ever compared their X-Brand glass to my bino's and not said WOW and agreed they're superior. I will loan you my Lab before ya get to use my Bino's. With all that being said, check www.sierratradingpost.com they have some good sells in your price range. And if you ever have the chance to look thru Swar's do it.
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One other thing, in 5 years my Swar's have almost doubled in price, i can get 500.00 more used than i paid new in 2005.

That's impossible to do with any others in the mid price range.


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Alpen Apex are some really nice binoculars in the 250-300 dollar range. I have a few pairs and I rate them higher than my steiners. Very good glass and hard to beat for the money.

Bushnell Trophy XLT binos. Best I have ever seen for under 200.00. I think they have a big rebate on them now also. If you want to go a little more get thye Bushnell Legend Ultra HD binos. I would put them up against about any bino out there and they are only about 280.00.

In optics you get what you pay.

If you spend alot of time glassing a 1k plus bino is one of the best investments you will ever make.

It took me time until a friend game me his swaros for one day, my leupolds have been hanging in the closet ever since.

Good hunting!!!