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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
[Re: PSE-Xforce-AXE]
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09/24/10 11:13 AM
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^^^^^no problema KennyLee
Figured someone who's so vocal about hating stupid would have a different stance about the safety of others, unless he really didn't read the thread. I HATE STUPID!!!! YOUR WORRIED ABOUT A BULLET FROM MY BOW? STUPID!! READ THE HOLE THRED TARD!! The post wasn't about you or your bow, as much as you seem to think everything is about you. It was about the OP's situation which causes a huge safety concern. What don't you understand? Yes, the original post was about him being worried about his safety with the feeder being put on the fence line. He has not talked to him. He can't get him on the phone, so leave him a note at his feeder. Just talk to him, and if he shoots over the fence he is STUPID!! But saying that people that put feeders up on fences are just trying to get deer off your place is STUPID!! See the pics above. If I cross that fenceline to put a note on his feeder, then I am breaking the law. I won't do that. The majority of the people who visit this forum come here to get information and learn. Part of the reason for my original post was to vent, obviously. The other reason was for education and hope that people would put a little more thought into their hunting set-up. I put a great deal of thought into each of mine and always have. Yes, being out in the woods is dangerous no matter what you do, but there are ways to limit risk. I like to limit my risk when it comes to my hobbies. Frankly, I have a better chance of getting injured driving to my property than I do once I'm actually on it. Why you feel compelled to come try and ruin what is otherwise a pretty informative thread is beyond me. It is people like you that give our sport a bad name. You believe you are smarter than the rest of us which can be a grave mistake. I assume you're still a little wet behind the ears. We were all a bit dumber when we were younger. I have had two friends die in hunting accidents. I have a family that 100% depends on me for everything in their lives. I have enough stress in my life that the chance of a heart attack is much greater than getting shot out of a stand. Why don't you come walk a mile in my shoes before you start questioning why I'm concerned with a neighbor shooting into my property. I have family, clients, employees, and others who use my property at various times. Being the caretaker of that property, I feel responsible for anyone who goes out there. Why someone like you would question that is beyond me. Now, do us all a favor, and just go away. I pray that your hunting will be safe and productive.
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
[Re: KennyLee]
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09/24/10 11:46 AM
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We have a small group of hunters in our area who are notorious for placing stands and feeders right next to the property line. Even when hunting the nearby National Forest, I have known them to place a portable blind near the property line that borders a private lease. It's as if they believe the grass must always be greener on the other side of the fence.
As I have said in other posts, I don't see a problem when someone places a stand near a property line and there is good habitat and cover on their side of the fence. In such cases, the hunter is simply trying to leverage all the "huntable" habitat on their land. But when someone places a stand and feeder in an open pasture and near a fence where their neighbor has all the cover and habitat on the other side, I have a problem. In these cases, it's obvious the person is trying to pull deer off their neighbor's land. Granted, the deer don't belong to the neighbor. But it serves as another example where what is legal, is clearly not ethical.
Picking such an area to make a noisey squirrel hunt or to clear fence brush with a chain saw on Opening Day can send a very clear message. I can also atest that they make good places for gut piles that create strong odors while also attracting predators.
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
[Re: Texas Dan]
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09/24/10 12:07 PM
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If I cross that fenceline to put a note on his feeder, then I am breaking the law. I won't do that. The majority of the people who visit this forum come here to get information and learn. Part of the reason for my original post was to vent, obviously. The other reason was for education and hope that people would put a little more thought into their hunting set-up. I put a great deal of thought into each of mine and always have. Yes, being out in the woods is dangerous no matter what you do, but there are ways to limit risk. I like to limit my risk when it comes to my hobbies. Frankly, I have a better chance of getting injured driving to my property than I do once I'm actually on it. Why you feel compelled to come try and ruin what is otherwise a pretty informative thread is beyond me. It is people like you that give our sport a bad name. You believe you are smarter than the rest of us which can be a grave mistake. I assume you're still a little wet behind the ears. We were all a bit dumber when we were younger. I have had two friends die in hunting accidents. I have a family that 100% depends on me for everything in their lives. I have enough stress in my life that the chance of a heart attack is much greater than getting shot out of a stand. Why don't you come walk a mile in my shoes before you start questioning why I'm concerned with a neighbor shooting into my property. I have family, clients, employees, and others who use my property at various times. Being the caretaker of that property, I feel responsible for anyone who goes out there. Why someone like you would question that is beyond me. Now, do us all a favor, and just go away. I pray that your hunting will be safe and productive. Well said KennyLee..but he probably won't be able read all of it before he gets on a rant about himself again.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
[Re: stxranchman]
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09/24/10 12:23 PM
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If I cross that fenceline to put a note on his feeder, then I am breaking the law. I won't do that. There is no need to cross the fence. Simply adding a well-placed posted sign that includes reference to the prosecution of trespassers should be just as effective as leaving a note on the stand or feeder.
"When the debate is lost, insults become the tool of the loser."
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
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09/24/10 01:06 PM
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Enough with the "stupid" related posts and no more name calling. Keep it related to the original post topic.
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
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09/24/10 01:12 PM
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Enough with the "stupid" related posts and no more name calling. Keep it related to the original post topic. I agree. We are all adults here. Arent we?
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
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09/26/10 02:21 AM
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Look, we are all Men and we all love hunting! The original post stated that someone put a stan and a feeder on a fence line and was in such a way that they would be shooting at one of their stands. Is your stand that close to the fence as well? I don't, all I was saying was to talk to the guy. Later in the post you said you have tried, that is all you can do. Go on about your buisiness as you always have. Park in the same spot do you same old same old. You have done all you can.
Now for all the fence line hunter haters! Just because someone put a feeder on a fence line does not mean they are trying to still your deer. We own 30 acers that is long and narrow. You are saying that we can not put a feeder up on it and hunt it. Man what ever tickels your fancy!! If you can't be grateful that someone is helping feed the wildlife then you have alot of growing up to do man!! More power to you I will continue to hunt my way and you can hunt yours!!
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
[Re: PSE-Xforce-AXE]
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09/26/10 03:10 AM
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I think it really boils down to ethics and respect for your neighbor. Most people just find it disrespectful to put a feeder that close and some people spend thousands of dollars on protein and corn. You might think it is a waste of money and it might be, but when a person sees a feeder that close to a fence line they are going to automatically think that person is going to shoot what ever crosses the fence. Obviously you don't see it that way. Remember though that is what causes people to get high fenced out, what will you hunt if you get high fenced? 30 acres can't sustain that many deer for long. I just think people/neighbors need to respect each other and give a little breather room.
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
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09/26/10 03:17 AM
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I think it really boils down to ethics and respect for your neighbor. Most people just find it disrespectful to put a feeder that close and some people spend thousands of dollars on protein and corn. You might think it is a waste of money and it might be, but when a person sees a feeder that close to a fence line they are going to automatically think that person is going to shoot what ever crosses the fence. Obviously you don't see it that way. Remember though that is what causes people to get high fenced out, what will you hunt if you get high fenced? 30 acres can't sustain that many deer for long. I just think people/neighbors need to respect each other and give a little breather room.
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
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09/26/10 06:05 PM
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I think it really boils down to ethics and respect for your neighbor. Most people just find it disrespectful to put a feeder that close and some people spend thousands of dollars on protein and corn. You might think it is a waste of money and it might be, but when a person sees a feeder that close to a fence line they are going to automatically think that person is going to shoot what ever crosses the fence. Obviously you don't see it that way. Remember though that is what causes people to get high fenced out, what will you hunt if you get high fenced? 30 acres can't sustain that many deer for long. I just think people/neighbors need to respect each other and give a little breather room. I TOTALY agree with you there. And that is what I am trying to get at. It has always been, "If I can see a feeder it is too close" to the fence line. It is not that way, all the time!! For instance, the feeder that I have on the fence line is set right off a creek where three draws come together, they come together on my place. The area in this part of the county is primaraly open land with thick brush on creeks and fence lines. So the deer will travel the tree lines, Like I said the three draws come together on my place. So how is that trying to get deer to come to my side. It is not all about me, there are plenty of other people like me that puts feeders up to help keep deer in or around one spot. If you see a feeder close to a fence think of how it can help you!!
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
[Re: PSE-Xforce-AXE]
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09/26/10 08:56 PM
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And that is what I am trying to get at. It has always been, "If I can see a feeder it is too close" to the fence line. It is not that way, all the time!! For instance, the feeder that I have on the fence line is set right off a creek where three draws come together, they come together on my place. The area in this part of the county is primaraly open land with thick brush on creeks and fence lines. So the deer will travel the tree lines, Like I said the three draws come together on my place. So how is that trying to get deer to come to my side. It is not all about me, there are plenty of other people like me that puts feeders up to help keep deer in or around one spot. If you see a feeder close to a fence think of how it can help you!! I agree. I have a stand near a fence corner of a tract that I hunt where it borders three other tracts. Two of these adjacent tracks are open pasture, and the other is thick brush that isn't hunted. The two open tracts are split by a brushy fence line that intersects the corner. This brushy fence line creates a natural travel route for deer moving into or away from the tract that I hunt with all its feeding and bedding areas. In fact, it works so well as a travel funnel, I've never seen the need to use a feeder. If the natural food sources, habitat, and cover are on my side of the fence and not the other, I'm going to hunt them, even if it means getting close to a fence. And if they're not, I'm going to respect my neighbor who has them. IMO, it's kind of like fishing at the lake. If you see someone who has a good spot and you don't, do you go throw your hook right next to his just because you can? But then, I guess there will always be those who feel the best place to put a trotline, is wherever that see one put there by someone else.
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
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09/28/10 09:11 PM
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I think there are guys on here that do not shoot across fences for their personal reasons and there are guys who do not, and then there are guys who do,, but act like they dont by not saying anything here....a long hard year, your in a AR rules county, Mr. Nocturnal 20" inside drop tine buck shows up and stands just the other side of the wire.No ones around.....no one....just Mr Drop tine ..the lights starting to fade...its a Tuesday evening middle of season everyone's at home or working..they live hundreds of miles away...
I would love to have a camera(oh and these days with the tech they have now folks are using cameras so folks had better behave and be legal, we used them when we had trespassers..even caught one guy riding atv through) there to see who would shoot and step and who wouldn't. Legalities be darned were talking about the presence or lack of simple solid character here.
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
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09/28/10 09:15 PM
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
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09/29/10 04:09 PM
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I think there are guys on here that do not shoot across fences for their personal reasons and there are guys who do not, and then there are guys who do,, but act like they dont by not saying anything here....a long hard year, your in a AR rules county, Mr. Nocturnal 20" inside drop tine buck shows up and stands just the other side of the wire.No ones around.....no one....just Mr Drop tine ..the lights starting to fade...its a Tuesday evening middle of season everyone's at home or working..they live hundreds of miles away...
I would love to have a camera(oh and these days with the tech they have now folks are using cameras so folks had better behave and be legal, we used them when we had trespassers..even caught one guy riding atv through) there to see who would shoot and step and who wouldn't. Legalities be darned were talking about the presence or lack of simple solid character here. Yes, very true!! There are people that will, and will not, shoot across a fence. I for one WILL NOT shoot across a fence. If the good Lord sees that I am to take that deer he will let him jump the fence. Untill he jumps the fence I will just admire him and pray that he jumps the fence with enough light for me to get a shot at him! This whole thread has become a pissing match between KennyLee and myself. He does not understand that just because he can see a feeder from his side of the fence that someone is not trying to "steel" his deer. He wants to look at the negative and not the possitive. Look at how it is helping you!
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
[Re: PSE-Xforce-AXE]
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09/29/10 04:18 PM
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PSE you cant shoot anything under your fencline feeder with your bow without the arrow going through onto the neighbors property. And possibly shooting one of those cows!
Anyway feeders on the fence as close to yours makes me sick. I would save up my $$$ and high fence you out if you were my neighbor and wouldnt move that feeder.
Also Im sure that buck is at your feeder in the middle of the night because all of that corn is still on the ground from nothing coming in during the day. They wander over at night to clean it up.
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
[Re: PSE-Xforce-AXE]
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09/29/10 04:30 PM
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This whole thread has become a pissing match between KennyLee and myself. He does not understand that just because he can see a feeder from his side of the fence that someone is not trying to "steel" his deer. He wants to look at the negative and not the possitive. Look at how it is helping you! Wrong.....this thread started because of a very valid safety concern of the OP. YOU injected yourself into a discussion that had nothing to do with you and turned it into a childish mudfest. Go back and read the first post.....you won't find your name or anything having to do with you anywhere or any mention of stealing deer. That was all you.
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
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09/29/10 04:32 PM
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Thats right this was about safety, not stealing deer.
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
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09/29/10 05:10 PM
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This whole thread has become a pissing match between KennyLee and myself. He does not understand that just because he can see a feeder from his side of the fence that someone is not trying to "steel" his deer. He wants to look at the negative and not the possitive. Look at how it is helping you! Wrong.....this thread started because of a very valid safety concern of the OP. YOU injected yourself into a discussion that had nothing to do with you and turned it into a childish mudfest. Go back and read the first post.....you won't find your name or anything having to do with you anywhere or any mention of stealing deer. That was all you. Did you miss the part where it said HAS BECOME?
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
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09/29/10 05:16 PM
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yes...
Every good and perfect gift is from above . James 1:17
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
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09/29/10 05:20 PM
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PSE you cant shoot anything under your fencline feeder with your bow without the arrow going through onto the neighbors property. And possibly shooting one of those cows!
Anyway feeders on the fence as close to yours makes me sick. I would save up my $$$ and high fence you out if you were my neighbor and wouldnt move that feeder.
Also Im sure that buck is at your feeder in the middle of the night because all of that corn is still on the ground from nothing coming in during the day. They wander over at night to clean it up. I would have thought that an EXPERT hunter, such as yourself, would realize that the reason I have a feeder pen around my feeder would be to keep those cows from my feeder. So that would mean that those cows are on my place. So let me spell it out to you. The camera is facing my place! So even if it hits one of the cows I would not be worried! So fence me off, I realy could care less because where this feeder is you would be fencing off YOURSELF because of how the land lays!! See on the otherside of the fence is a feild! So the deer travel down MYSIDE of the fence! Why people like you can't understand why a feeder on the fenceline can help you, I will never know!! What about my dad's land that he owns that is just 30 acers? Long and narrow. We can't put a feeder up on it and hunt it because nomatter where you put the feeder it would be 50 yards or so from a fenceline?
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
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09/29/10 05:21 PM
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yes... By the way, like your signature!! James 1:17!! Makes my post saying if God wants me to take the deer he will see it jumps the fence with enough shooting lite to take him!
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
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09/29/10 05:22 PM
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This whole thread has become a pissing match between KennyLee and myself. He does not understand that just because he can see a feeder from his side of the fence that someone is not trying to "steel" his deer. He wants to look at the negative and not the possitive. Look at how it is helping you! Wrong.....this thread started because of a very valid safety concern of the OP. YOU injected yourself into a discussion that had nothing to do with you and turned it into a childish mudfest. Go back and read the first post.....you won't find your name or anything having to do with you anywhere or any mention of stealing deer. That was all you. Did you miss the part where it said HAS BECOME? Didn't miss it at all....and like I said, it has become that because you injected yourself into something that had nothing to do with you and started making baseless accusations when the thread was about a serious safety concern. Show me where the OP said anything.....just one thing about someone stealing "his" deer. That was never the subject, period.
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
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PSE, this is not a "my" deer issue, it is a safety issue. Not hard to comprehend man. No one wants people shooting towards them while they are hunting. How you you feel if you were hunting your fenceline, your neighbor was hunting his, a 150" buck steps between you on his side, and he takes a shot at it. You are in his line of site. That's what I thought....
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
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Re: Finally happened to me: Neighbor put feeders on my fenceline
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I have posted about this same thing several times! Come on guys, your fence line, your deer, your rights, your, your, your!! Have you talked to the guy???? I have a lease with 4 feeders on it and on top of the hill, where it is rocky, I have a feeder where the fence around it is connected to the property fence!!! It is on my side!! Your saying I cant hunt ALL of my lease because it is your fence line, and your deer??? COME ON!!!!!
I am a bow hunter and I will NEVER shoot anything that is not on my property! Look at it as another feeder YOU do not have to take care of!!! I guess what I am saying is just TALK TO THE GUY!!!!!!!!!!!! IT is NOT YOUR fence line and YOUR deer!!! I bring to you my fist post! I believe it says in there, Have you talked to the guy?!! Also, think of it as another feeder you do not have to take care of!! So what are you getting at? Maybe you need to go back and reread the post!!
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