With all of the talk of the "Black Panther", Im just curious if any of you have ever eaten mt. lion or bobcat?
I wont generally kill anything that I wont eat.
Since everyone is out to get the cat now, if you do succeed try it out.
It is actually pretty good. If you ever get the opportunity you should try it.

This is Crazyhorse, and I have eaten bobcat. It was good, but because it has little or no fat on it, it cooks up dry. It will be best slow cooked and smothered in some type of gravy. It cooks up white and it tastes somewhat like veal. I have posted this elsewhere, but mountain lion is considered a delicasy. Most of the folks that go after mountain lions in the western states get the meat processed. One of the treats the old time sheep guides in the Rockies, prepared for their clients, was lion backstrap, for their first night in sheep camp. They all described it as good or better than the finest veal.

Hey Crazyhorse, my buddy said he was in the grocery store in Nocona and heard a Mt. Lion was shot around there. Have you heard anything? A guy on our lease shot at one last spring while turkey hunting with a pistol but missed of course. I am now hunting just 1/2 mile from where he saw it.

Considering all the stuff you've talked about eating Mr. Crazyhorse, you should be a contestant on Fear Factor.

First off if you all will notice, this is me, and I will quit dragging my wifes good name down in the dirt because of my postings. As answers to the 2 previous postings. In all that rough break country that we are in up there just south of the Red, I think there could be lions. that country is fairly rough, especially most of the stuff for about the first mile or so south of the river. As for the Fear Factor thing, I will eat bait(sushi), but I draw the line at bugs, guts, and head cheese.

Good to see that you got your old CHC back.

Oh great! Hag does not know what he's done! LOL He has released the beast!

CHC, we are at least 7 miles from the river at our closest point and there have been 2 sightings of the mountain lion on our lease in the past year. The rancher's son south of us has see it as well a few years ago so they are further south of the river than a mile.

I'm sorry, I miss understood your post. No, I hadn't heard anything about a lion being shot up in that area. My reference was that with the country our place is located in, I would not doubt there being lions around. After having run around a lot of that country, going from the place we hunt, and working our way all the way down to Jacksboro, there is a whole lot of good country that lions could live in. The biggest part of that country south out of Nocona to Montague would be good habitat for them. Once you get out of Bowie and down around Amon Carter Lake and then on down to Jacksboro there is a lot of country, that does not have that many roads thru a lot of it but it is fairly broken, with lots of timber and creeks and drainages that could be used as travel corridors. Sightings of lions anywhere in Texas do not surprise me and I expext the number of animals that will be harvested to increase. That is why if I see one I am going to shoot it. TP&W would love to classify lions as gsme animals, look at what a hunt costs in any of the mountain states, and a lot of those take place on public land. We just think deer are high.

I had a lease in Montague thru '98 and there was talk of mountain lions in the area but we never saw any. It would not suprise me to see them up there.

http://www.nsrl.ttu.edu/tmot1/images/dmap256.jpg
No idea how old this map is but this is suposed to be a map of countys in texas that have mountian loins.

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/nature/research/mtnlonsy.htm
Texas Parks and wildlife mountian loin research page. They would like to know when you have recent first hand sightings of mountian loins.

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/nature/wild/vertebrate/mammals/mountain_lion/
Neat little fact sheet on them. Again from TPWD's website.

Anyone concerned we will not have any more mountian loins left if we just leave everything as it is now? Urban Sprawl, farmland turning into rachenttes subdivisions? I can not find any numbers on how many are harvested in texas a year. Anyone know?

I am gonna hazard a guess that there are less than 20 a year killed by hunters in Texas each year. And while you always raise some good points, I think you are going to have as hard or probably a harder time keeping people from crossing the Red and the Sabine then they do keeping them from crossing the Rio Grande. If something needs to be addressed, and not just locally, but globally, it is human population control. Do you see ANY politician wanting to tackle that issue. Again I don't disagree with you brian, I just accept the fact that no one in power is going to do one thing about, not now nor in the future. Adaptable species, white-tails and coyotes are going to survive, non-adaptable species aren't. I for one believe that there are a lot more mountain lions out there than anyone knows, there might even be a black one or 2, nah.

been reading about mountian lions all night. Somewhere I read the TPWD had reported around 100 mountian lions killed in texas in 1999.

As for Lazy politicians not stopping the illegal entrence of forgien nationals..... Sounds like we need to fire the politicians and replace them.... This state however seams to elect whoever gets a nod from a single party.... That a problem.. The same party just introduced some legislation on animal cruilty in the texas house a week ago..... Sounds like we need some regiem change at home. Seriously, this is a sore spot for me. How can ANY elected offical say they are concerned for our saftey and then NOT stop the flow of illegals over the borders. This is beyond my abalities to understand..... Anyway thats a differnt rant and I dont think they have a Politics section on this board just yet.....

Brian, re-read my post, last time I checked, yankees ain't considered illegal except here in Texas. Illegal aliens, don't move in here with ideas about how we shouldn't be hunting all these poor little animals nor wanting to buy themselves a little place out in the country. It is the influx of all the people that are moving in that have jobs with major companies, it is the influx of major companies moving in to Texas and bringing employees with them. Illegals from Mexico just want to make money. And somewhere, I heard that there are as many or more foriegn nationals, that become illegal aliens, that get off of international flights, coming in to our major airports, as there are crossing the Rio Grande. As for the person that introduced that animal cruelty stuff, well every now and then people don't recognise an idiot for what they are until get a little power. And, I didn,t know that there had been that many lions killed, thanks for the info.

This topic is now going from Mt. Lions to Politics, lets talk about the Mt.Lions.

Good Idea.

I'm no expert on lions or their regions or where there can or can't be some, but there have been a few causing havoc down here in Guadalupe County in the past few years. Just this past fall they/it ran a herd of cows through a bunch of fences. I don't know if they were trapped or killed or what happened to them, maybe they just moved on but not until they killed some calves.

Here are all of the mammals listed for Montague County. Mountain Lion is on there. I have never seem most of those animals.

http://www.rra.dst.tx.us/bi/mammal/ri/montague.cfm

Like I said in an earlier topic page.... I have one that lives by my house. I walked out my back door to see it holding a cottontail rabbit in it's mouth, not 15 feet from me. Then, last year a 2 year old lion was run over and killed by a car about 2 miles down the road from my house. We also have one at our ranch in Coleman county. Haven't seen her in 2 or 3 years though. Last seen, she had 2 kitten following her across our lake dam. Even the game warden has told me he saw her too. She was one big sucker! Having kittens meant that there had to be a male there somewhere too.

One of the guys on our lease have seen 2 different cats at our place between Breckenridge and Cisco this year. A half grown and a cub. Got a vaque picture of the bigger one with a game cam one night. Dad saw the momma several years ago. Still see tracks from time to time. 2 weeks ago to be exact. I heard her calling one night. Pretty creepy.

Okay, I am not sure if we have went sideways a little, and I am just not understanding, or if I said something that was mis-interpreted. I am sure that are probably mountain lions in Montague. There is too much good habitat, and just because there are not that many sightins, doesn't mean that they are not there. As for the list of mammals of Montague county, I am guessing that, that particular list is 75+ years old. The reason I say this is because there are at least 4 animals and possibly 5, that are listed, that haven't been in the wild, in that part of Texas for at least 75 years. I know that you got this list from a professional source, but sometimes these places don't always keep up with the times. But if you will check the list, you will find Gray Wolves, Red Wolves, Black-footed ferret, and Coati. Gray wolves were eliminated from Texas in the late 1800's or early part of the 1900's. Red wolves were restricted to south-eastern Texas, and a lot of people in the scinetific community, because of DNA testing are pretty certain that Red wolves are the result of matings between coyotes and gray wolves. Black-footed ferret are totally dependent on Prairie Dogs, for food and shelter. To the point that they almost became extinct. The seed stock, for the animals that are in captivity and those that are being reintroduced to the wild came from either Wyoming or Montana. Coati,s, or coati mundy's as they are also called were probably never numerous this far north, as they are animals of the tropics and sub-tropics.
Just because I don't really believe in black mountain lions, I do accept that there are a lot more lions out there then people think there are.

I just put that list there because when I did search for Montague and Mt. Lion, that was all I can find. If one was shot there recently, I hope they report it.

I see wolves all the time there. They wear red and scare my deer away in the woods.

I hope they do report it if they got one up there. I often wonder how many lions are killed yearly that no one reports cause they think they broke the law. The only things I saw scaring deer away this year, was falling acorns.
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A young man on my dad's hunting lease in Montague county saw a mountain lion saturday evening (November 14, 2009). He said he had several deer at his feeder and the next thing he knew they took off running and a mountain lion came charging out of the brush after them. I have sat in a blind on that lease and noticed that the deer are ALWAYS, CONSTANTLY on edge. And no one sees very many deer. Now we know why. From the way the guy talked it was a big cat. We found his tracks and he is definetly big. We are going to break out the predator calls and see if we can get him to offer us a shot.

good luck,i hope you get him.