I heard Tri Star is coming out with an AR....








Nvm I can't make fun of Tri Star guys, I own one too!

Well anyone who has read this thread can read your accusation of bashing, and can tell exactly who your point the stick at and Ill leave it at that. If your turned off from a particular brand because you dont like my or someone elses opinion or information they give that says a lot... I could care less what you buy or use just letting folks know about quality product.

Whatever Dude. I let you get back to your AR magazines so you can read up and inform the next person in line.

Yup thats what I do. And its telling you are stooping that low and its pretty clear you now have a personal problem with me !!

I dont know you and wasnt even refering to you then you want to come after me. Its easy to see,being impartial,who I was refering to. But whatever.

Boy this has gone to hell.

I would guess that 100%Texan owns a Stag and that's probably the only AR he's ever fired so therefore it's the best brand ever. This is usually the case with shallow, weak minded people.

As far as the accusation that Brandon and I know one another, I assure you that's not the case. I have never laid eyes on him. We share some opinions concerning ARs. I own and have owned guns from many different companies. I do know who makes a quality product and who makes a decent product.

This thread is starting to remind me of two high school boys having a Ford v. Chevy debate. If a gun meets the specs it doesn't matter what brand it is.

Check this chart.





Do you all see the lack of x's in the Stag column? Notice the how many are in the Colt, LMT, Noveske columns. Does this alone make a better gun? Yes, better parts make better guns, period. I really don't know why this so difficult for some.

It's a shame that the Spike's Tactical M4 LE is not on this chart. It has just about the same specs as the Colt 6920 for aroung $799 or less. What a bargain.

First that chart was prepared by Joe's on another forum, reckon someone quotes us somewhere as experts?

Second, tell me why a shot peened bolt or a black extractor spring insert makes it any better?

BTW, the extractor spring insert in my Bushmaster is Black, in my Wife's Colt is Grey and in my son's Colt is ORANGE

Why would it hurt my bushmaster is it's not parkerized under FSB?

As for Mil-Spec, that's laughable, Mil-SPec is minimum standards, and Bushmaster builds more for the military than anyone on that list except Colt.

And M4 feed ramps are now standard on all M4 designated guns from Bushmaster.

The extractor color is not important to me and it's a cheap and easy upgrade. but Shot peening is. Do you not know what this process entails without googling it???? It is a crucial process for high stress components that are subjected to extreme pressures and abuse (like bolts that are prone to breakage). I am surprised that you would make such a statement. I guess top quality bolts aren't important to you. That's odd.

False, LMT hands down produces more M16/M4 components for our military than Bushmaster.

It won't unless the front forged sight base and the barrel become one due to rust caused by a bare metal to bare metal condition and you ever have any future intentions on removing it.

Good, they help.

The chart is known in the AR comunity to have some of the most detailed info on several manufactuers ARs compiled into a few options a lot of AR owners are intrested in when making a purchase. If you feel it was from Joes garage thats fine but these do represent the specs of teh rifles listed.

The color of the extractor spring insert doesnt hane much to do with it , it is the heavy extractor spring that helps with ejecting millitary grade ammo. An upgrade that cost just a couple of bucks and does help with extraction.

The extractor though is one of the parts in a BCG that is common for sometimes breaking and teh extra testing makes sure there are no imperfections or hair line cracks in it that may lead to failure. Refer to Deltons bolts in in recent months.

Its not going to hurt anything if the barrel underneath the FSP isnt pakerized but as Im sure you have noticed when you remove a FSP that isnt parkerized you can often see where the bare finish hast begun to rust this is sometimes a problem with the FSP pins as well and will often fuse the bare metal together (for lack of a better term).

Not that there is anythin "wrong" with them or that they are "bad" but if mil spec is the "minimum" how does that make rifles that arent mil spec compare ??

If some of tehse options dont matter to someone than thats fine its not going to make the gun blow up if it doesnt have them. Some people want these options and they are availible on rifles that cost teh same or less than the ones you can buy from Cabelas or BPS and I think that is what most of the back and forth stuff on this thread is about.

Don't sweat it man as it was obvious who you were referring too.

And you make this rebuttal solely based on your vast AR experience, just like what you stated in this thread not too long ago.

http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/u...ion#Post1230460

Boy, that's some real AR expertise!! Very impressive!

I did not say components... as they are far too hard to check. LMT does not have a military rifle contract that I can find.

Why would I let my rifle rust that bad, and why would you ever want to remove one? It's not a toy, it's a tool.

DO you?

I have 24+ years in the firearms industry, and many days carrying a M16/M4 type weapon. I was merely pointing out what you agreed on, it's pointless. Unless you are a Vietnam era "boil" my gun clean guy, the spring buffer is pointless to argue about color.

Shot peening only applies to surface hardness, if the bolt is properly produced, there's no need for it.

How can you make such accusatory statements?

I have never claimed to be knowledgeable on AR's and my post had NOTHING to do with them...so your post is an epic FAIL

While driller and I can respectfully disagree often, today is not the time....

He's on a roll lately.

Shot peening , MP and HPI testing is done to weed out the bolts or extractors that are NOT properly produced and that what makes it a poular option for some shooters. When tests like that arent done and bolts arent caught that arent properly produced you have the problems that Delton has run into lately. For the same price you can purchace a BCG or bolt and extractor that have had these tests performed and not have to worry about having a problem. It serves a purpose and it works.