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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:03 PM
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Crossbows are kind of like scooters or fat chicks.
They may be fun to ride, but you definitely don't want anybody seeing you!
I don't really have a solid argument against them, I just think they're silly. I always envision the geeks doing dungeons and dragons type role playing at the park with someone who would buy one.
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:05 PM
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so what was the real reason for this post, to see how people would react,or for your entertainment,or im sure you already knew the real reason you just wanted to hear someone else say it
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:07 PM
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The problem is people don't like having things change!  If you feel like getting a crossbow then get one its your money.
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:08 PM
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i truly think it takes skill to be able to shoot a bow and be a good shot. a croos bow takes no skill to look thru a scope and squeeze a trigger. And you are entitled to your opinion. If you want a real challenge then you would put down that compound and get a recurve with no sights. IMO unless someone is shooting a bow they made themselves than they don't have any thing to say about a crossbow hunter.
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:08 PM
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i would just like to say there is going to be a GTG Next week Saturday at 4:00 if you would like you are welcome to bring your cross bow and watch Your arse get handed to you with my compound bow, we can even make some friendly wagers. My Bow vs. your training wheel bow
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:10 PM
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Crossbows are kind of like scooters or fat chicks.
They may be fun to ride, but you definitely don't want anybody seeing you!
I don't really have a solid argument against them, I just think they're silly. I always envision the geeks doing dungeons and dragons type role playing at the park with someone who would buy one. Damn that was funny!
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:11 PM
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i truly think it takes skill to be able to shoot a bow and be a good shot. a croos bow takes no skill to look thru a scope and squeeze a trigger. And you are entitled to your opinion. If you want a real challenge then you would put down that compound and get a recurve with no sights. IMO unless someone is shooting a bow they made themselves than they don't have any thing to say about a crossbow hunter. i can shoot stic bow all day long, thats all we shoot when we go bow fishing and trust me we can fill some 55 gal drums with some dead carp,buffalo,and gar
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:14 PM
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i would just like to say there is going to be a GTG Next week Saturday at 4:00 if you would like you are welcome to bring your cross bow and watch Your arse get handed to you with my compound bow, we can even make some friendly wagers. My Bow vs. your training wheel bow Really?  You are bad. I hope they post up some results of that G2G so we can see just how bad you are. 
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
[Re: Kobeer]
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07/01/10 07:14 PM
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To me, shooting a crossbow is too much like shooting a gun, albeit with a shorter range. You don't have the challenge of having to get into position and draw the bow back when a deer is 18 yards away. With a recurve or compound, you have to stand up (sometimes) draw the bow and not get busted.
Most brands make great entry level bows that are better quality than the high end bows were 5-10 years ago. Find one that fits you and your budget. Virtually any bow made today will kill deer and is capable of shooting tight groups if it's set up right and you practice good form.
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:16 PM
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i truly think it takes skill to be able to shoot a bow and be a good shot. a croos bow takes no skill to look thru a scope and squeeze a trigger. Ok. So there is no skill in shooting a crossbow? I'm sure there's a site on compound bow to help line your shot up. The difference is the scope VS. site? I get that.
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:20 PM
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Many Year's ago a Ture archer had to draw a recurve bow capable of shootin a broadhead at least 7/8" in width over 150 yds to legally hunt in this state!Now with that said a ture bowhunter has to be skilled enough to set up his ambush spot in order to draw 28-30"s of arrow ie. movement to make a clean and humane shot.It's quite harder to do than sit in a quad-pad with a x/bow laying on the gun rest.this was the main grip of most ture bow hunters,but due to the need to have a higher harvest rate and x/bow promoters it's now legal.I think You should get one if that's what You want satisfaction is only gained by ones self just don't tell someone You shot a P/Y buck with a Bow ! Shooting any bow over a 150 yds now thats a test. How many people could pass that test today or back then?
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:22 PM
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i truly think it takes skill to be able to shoot a bow and be a good shot. a croos bow takes no skill to look thru a scope and squeeze a trigger. Ok. So there is no skill in shooting a crossbow? I'm sure there's a site on compound bow to help line your shot up. The difference is the scope VS. site? I get that. shooting compound takes ALOT of practice, it takes muscle memory,you have to make sure you have good eye sight as well,strenth to hold the bow for long periods,making sure you have good posture,good form,anchoring the bow the same every time,making sure your not punching your shots or pulling shots,(it aint no resting a x-bow on some thing and looking threw a scope which you can do with bad eye sight,and squeezing a trigger)
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:26 PM
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i would just like to say there is going to be a GTG Next week Saturday at 4:00 if you would like you are welcome to bring your cross bow and watch Your arse get handed to you with my compound bow, we can even make some friendly wagers. My Bow vs. your training wheel bow Really?  You are bad. I hope they post up some results of that G2G so we can see just how bad you are.  i hope they do, i may get beat by another compound shooter cause i never said i was a pro shooter (maybe Semi-pro) but i have confidence with my bow compared to a cross bow
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:26 PM
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so what was the real reason for this post, to see how people would react,or for your entertainment,or im sure you already knew the real reason you just wanted to hear someone else say it Great question! We saw a couple of bad a$$ bucks on the cams this past weekend and I said to my buddy that I hope I get one of them! He said fat chance since he's bow hunting therefore getting the leg up on me. I said then I'll go get me a bow and learn how to shoot one. Then I started looking into xbows. When I mentioned this to my buddy he said that xbows are for people who are handicapped. Obviously he looks down on xbow hunters so I wanted to come to the THF and ask. What I do know is that I'll get blunt arse opinions from you guys which is what I'm looking for. I'm not fishing but I can see how you would think that. No hidden agenda here bro...
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:30 PM
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Ok. So far I've got that the xbow is heavier therefore holding it steady is or could be an issue. That's legitimate. Fowlplayer says that xbows might give an unfair advantage but he questions those advantages. I'm still not following why xbows are frowned upon. Is it because you can mount a site? The arrows are racier? Then there is the handicap argument. Am I to believe that only handicap people can use these bows because they're easier to draw? What is it exactly that causes an argument between xbow fans and compound bow fans. Because simply stating xbows are for handicaps is not going to cut it. What is the big deal? Come one, some one on this forum can burp out the truth!?!?!?!? Because some of the die hard bow hunters are pissed off that it is now legal to hunt with. No other reason. I will be buying a crossbow one of these days, and when I do my compound is getting sold. Buy one, and let me try it out. Bam! There it is compliments of the ragin canjun himself! I hear you're entertaining at your property this weekend Brad? What's the deal? Good to hear from you! Yeah, are you coming? 1Fowlhunter, TexasLefty is coming over, and Twice 70 said he would stop in. Can't Brad! I'll be with the family over the 4th! You need to get over to Grapeland to see what KING BONEHEAD has been doing! He's got that place rocking with a new food plot with protein feeder. We also rolled out fence line for a new 4 acre plot over passed the hayfield. Looks great!
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:35 PM
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do w/e you like...try out a xbow and if you so choose, get around to trying your hand w/ a compound and figure out which one you like. I have both, but would prefer to shoot my compound, but I picked a bow up when I was a young squirt and got pretty good at shooting one over the years....to the point I'm probably a little overconfident in my abilities. Now my wife has never shot one in her life and doesn't have the time to learn, but would like to hunt whenever she gets a chance this year, so I'm hooking her up with my xbow and will sit her in a grounbline exactly 20yds from whichever feeder she is hunting. The most important thing to remember is to be accurate with whatever you decide...a bad shot on a really good buck that isn't recovered will gnaw at you every time you think about it.
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:38 PM
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Many Year's ago a Ture archer had to draw a recurve bow capable of shootin a broadhead at least 7/8" in width over 150 yds to legally hunt in this state!Now with that said a ture bowhunter has to be skilled enough to set up his ambush spot in order to draw 28-30"s of arrow ie. movement to make a clean and humane shot.It's quite harder to do than sit in a quad-pad with a x/bow laying on the gun rest.this was the main grip of most ture bow hunters,but due to the need to have a higher harvest rate and x/bow promoters it's now legal.I think You should get one if that's what You want satisfaction is only gained by ones self just don't tell someone You shot a P/Y buck with a Bow ! Good post Bone Stacker! I should know better than to ask this question but how hard was it to shoot a broadhead 7/8 in width 150 yards? The last time i shot a bow was when I was about 13. Went to a camp called camp Peniel. We went bow hunting rabbits in Freer Texas. I saw a guy shoot a jack rabbit that was around 100 plus yards and couldn't believe unless I saw it with my own eyes. I might have been luck as the arrow did skip the ground but what a shot nonetheless! Aside from the rabbits, we caught 15 rattle snakes and I caught a blue indigo which are now illegal to catch. Good times...
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:54 PM
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i would just like to say there is going to be a GTG Next week Saturday at 4:00 if you would like you are welcome to bring your cross bow and watch Your arse get handed to you with my compound bow, we can even make some friendly wagers. My Bow vs. your training wheel bow If that was meant to me, I don't own a crossbow. I use a bowtech compound. But I will be getting a crossbow. When I get my crossbow, I would take that bet.
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:55 PM
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i truly think it takes skill to be able to shoot a bow and be a good shot. a croos bow takes no skill to look thru a scope and squeeze a trigger. And you are entitled to your opinion. If you want a real challenge then you would put down that compound and get a recurve with no sights. IMO unless someone is shooting a bow they made themselves than they don't have any thing to say about a crossbow hunter. i can shoot stic bow all day long, thats all we shoot when we go bow fishing and trust me we can fill some 55 gal drums with some dead carp,buffalo,and gar That is how I bowfished for many many years. And we would load a 200 quart ice chest full of reds, drum, sheephead, and flounder.
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 07:58 PM
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Can't Brad! I'll be with the family over the 4th! You need to get over to Grapeland to see what KING BONEHEAD has been doing! He's got that place rocking with a new food plot with protein feeder. We also rolled out fence line for a new 4 acre plot over passed the hayfield. Looks great!
Matt told me he was swapping schedules, so we will be off at the same times. Looking forward to hanging out with you guys again. To bad, wish you where headed to Grapeland instead.
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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I have hunted with xbow and compounds in the past. The xbow was very noisy and any advantage for distance is gone. The deer easly moved out the way on long shots. The compound has more gadgets on them than the crossbows. The speed for both are about the same now, so whats the whining about? Hunters should support hunters. I shoot nothing but traditional the last few years. I guess I could whine about the compound hunters. It was a choice I made and I fill my freezer every year and more..Have fun guys thats why we hunt LOL
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 08:26 PM
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gottadip.. your right I apologize that I didn't answer the question but now I am too late. I think it's been answered by now but this is it. Some peeps are PO'd that they opened early archery to xbows thinking it will bring out slob hunters. Part of the reason I don't care is ANY way to bring more hunter's into the woods for our hunting future is aok with me even if it's not the way I want to hunt at least they are hunting. Hunters should support hunters. Have fun guys thats why we hunt this^
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 08:27 PM
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ok basiclly it goes like this, say you have been hunting somewhere that is open to any one to hunt. But it is archery only.there is maybe between 20-30 people hunting this area,and you all have always had good luck. then they decide one day hey lets make it where x-bow hunters can hunt this area as well. Next thing you know you have 80-100 people everywhere shooting cross bows cause they have never learned to shoot a regular bow and they figured what the hell how hard could it be to shoot a cross bow. Thats why us bow hunters cherish or bow season cause of the low preasure on the deer and not so many hunters.
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 08:28 PM
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Man You didn't shoot 150 yd's the bow had to have enough poundage to propel a arrow that far thats how they use to determine it to be effective enough for hunting in texas now I've played archery golf where a course is like miles long you basically just shot your arrow down range till You got within range of a free standing target for a bullseye shot which would be like putting the ball in the cup.It was a total point game .
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Re: Compound Bow hunting VS. Crossbow hunting
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07/01/10 08:33 PM
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Thats why us bow hunters cherish or bow season cause of the low preasure on the deer and not so many hunters. What if they did away with the archery-only season? It's all hunting, so why not just have one big season? Why should bow-hunters get any advantages? Wait...Maybe we should have a x-bow ONLY season....2 weeks ahead of the archery-only? Point is, it's all hunting. Run what you brung. Go hunt and have fun. And BTW - most of the public areas still do not allow x-bows so that's complete BS.
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