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training #1432074 05/18/10 04:57 PM
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i got a lab puppy and he is 7 weeks old i can train him to sit stay stop ect. but i will need help with the hunt training when should i start with huunting part


Re: training [Re: claybo] #1432092 05/18/10 05:06 PM
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Its going to be a while before you can really start to work with him. My advice is, let him be a puppy. Hes going to want to retrieve, so anything he brings to you, replace it with a pup bumper or wing if you have any, and then praise him like no other. Make everything fun, and if youre going to be hunting with him, get him use to loud noises, ex. gunshots, duck calls, just to name a few. Theres a book I used to refer to for the ages of 7 to 15 weeks, Waterdog, by Richard Wolters. Ive got a copy of it still if you want it. Any other questions just ask.


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I will thanks i will let you know if i decide to take it


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Obedience first. black0989 is right the retrieve part will come natural. Most trainers I have talked to want to start the dog around 8 months to 1 year.



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Claybo - start here: http://www.swanvalleypress.com/pages/gundogs/gun_dogs.html

By far the best book I have read of the numerous books I purchased.

Good luck and have fun.


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"Training a retriever puppy" by Bill Hillmann ,for the next stage. It's fairly expensive but well worth it.I believe he starts that pup around 11 weeks and covers eveything training day by day. From sit, stay, come , all the way to doubles, intro to birds, water , gunfire, force fetch and collars. All before 7 or 8 months.


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Here is a pic of Remington




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Originally Posted By: black0989
Its going to be a while before you can really start to work with him. My advice is, let him be a puppy. Hes going to want to retrieve, so anything he brings to you, replace it with a pup bumper or wing if you have any, and then praise him like no other. Make everything fun, and if youre going to be hunting with him, get him use to loud noises, ex. gunshots, duck calls, just to name a few. Theres a book I used to refer to for the ages of 7 to 15 weeks, Waterdog, by Richard Wolters. Ive got a copy of it still if you want it. Any other questions just ask.


Black0989 is correct. Make sure you take it slow. You can do more harm than good trying to force training that the pup is not ready for. Pick a program and follow it. Find a Retriever Club close to you that will help with the training.


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thanks


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you better cut that grass or you are gonna lose that pup in there! smile


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Re: training [Re: nogeese] #1433277 05/19/10 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted By: nogeese
you better cut that grass or you are gonna lose that pup in there! smile
Its taller in the back and he lays on his belly you can hardly see him and when my Jack Russel walks by him he lauches at him and attacks it's really funny to watch


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The most important thing for a retriever pup is the retrieve. You are going to need to introduce him to a little pressure such as; teaching to walk on lead with a choke chain in what I call a puppy heel. A puppy heel is just that, a puppy walking at heel, not all that clean looking but the pup is learning how to turn off the pressure of the chain by doing a desired task. Same thing with sit. First teach the pup sit by saying it and physically putting him in one. Once he knows it add pressure, but not too much, just a jerk on the chain or the end of the lead smacking his butt. Like I said in my opening sentence THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THE RETRIEVE. Not so much the obedience at this age. I do believe obedience is important but you can always teach obedience, at any age. No matter what anybody says you cant teach a dog to retrieve. You can put rules on how a dog does it but only if they like to do it so much that they don't care how you make them do it as long as they get to do it. That's why I think at this age encouraging the drive and building it is so important. Don't try to steady the dog yet or practice obedience during the retrieving part of a pups day. A little bit of sit before you throw is ok but dont hold him back. I could go on forever but before I'm done I will leave you with this: When it comes time for more advanced retriever training, you can do a lot with a disobedient dog that you cant hold back when it comes time to retrieve. You cant do much with an obedient dog that kind of likes to retrieve. Good luck and I hope you keep us posted on your pups progress.


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I'm not too sure about the "too early to train" My pup was 7 weeks when she fully retrieving from fast moving water, grass, sand bars, etc. Now she is a 11 weeks old and what I've witnesses lately is completely unbelievable. So I say start training now, but keep it fun and use lots of treats. Check out this old post with a video of my pup in action. http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1409208/1


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thanks and i will keep ya'll posted with his progress


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In regards to westforkguideservice, i wasnt saying that you couldnt start retrieving with the pup right now, all I was saying is that you can't start enforcing things when it comes to retrieving(delivery to hand, steadiness, etc.). If you do theres a good chance that the pup could lose drive when it gets a bit older. Get the pup birdy and make it fun so the pup knows that retrieving is good. Obedience comes first when it comes to training. Your dog is great and looks like she has a good chance to do very well. Just dont do too much to lose that drive. Kepp up the good work though, she looks great.


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Thanks this is the first pup that im going to try to train for hunting but do really know how its going to work out


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I read water dog and learned alot, but it was written a long time ago. I was reccomended 10 minute retriever by several people and have rad it, its pretty good. Two others that came highly reccomended were Tom Dokkens Retriever training and the book by tritronics. Good luck with your pup, mine is 4 months now. Be patient and consistent, probably the best advice I was given.


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do any of ya'll train pups for hunting that won't break me, cause i have know idea how to, I can do the Obedience part my self


Re: training [Re: claybo] #1436807 05/20/10 08:30 PM
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Much more rewarding to do yourself. Slow down, do a little bit of research, spend some money on training items as you go. Find a training program you like, and stick to it until the end. It takes patience and there will be a much better bond between you and the dog, IMO. Join a retriever club in your area and youll find more than enough resources to get to the point you want to be at. If you need any help on finding a program, let me know, and ill pint you in the best way possible.


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Thanks but most of the clubs around us is 18 or older to join and I'm 15 about to turn 16


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He knows the sit down command pretty good if he want you to throw the ball


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