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This is some serious BS!
#1282436
03/03/10 10:23 PM
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Tres
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We got a letter last week from the Texas Lands Commission saying that part of our property actually belongs to the Permanent School Fund's land holdings and that they will be out to survey it and SELL it this summer. The tract is 187 acres and cuts right through our property, affecting three other neighboring landowners also. The letter says if we would be interested in BUYING OUR LAND back from them to give them a call!  Still can't wrap my head around it.
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Re: This is some serious BS!
[Re: Tres]
#1282451
03/03/10 10:30 PM
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We got a letter last week from the Texas Lands Commission saying that part of our property actually belongs to the Permanent School Fund's land holdings and that they will be out to survey it and SELL it this summer. The tract is 187 acres and cuts right through our property, affecting three other neighboring landowners also. The letter says if we would be interested in BUYING OUR LAND back from them to give them a call!  Still can't wrap my head around it. I'd contact the title company
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: This is some serious BS!
[Re: Tres]
#1282453
03/03/10 10:31 PM
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texasd
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 get a lawyer and fight them... especially if you have been maintaining it over a certian amount of time or paying the taxes......
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Re: This is some serious BS!
[Re: texasd]
#1282456
03/03/10 10:34 PM
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jbhlsu
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Damn Matt that sucks ars!! I wish you the best luck on this deal and I would find the best lawyer you can! Man that is a kick to the cods! 
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Re: This is some serious BS!
[Re: texasd]
#1282463
03/03/10 10:36 PM
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Tres
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Got a lawyer involved that has searched titles and doesn't see anything that shows they actually own the land. He's drafting a letter to them asking them to produce something that shows that they do. Just infuriating and expensive.
![[Linked Image]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Alaska/i-WSddPKG/0/c077d64b/Th/IMG_2809-Th.jpg) "Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before."
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Re: This is some serious BS!
[Re: jbhlsu]
#1282465
03/03/10 10:36 PM
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That really sux......good luck to you and yours. FIGHT 'EM!!
IMPEACH!! IMPEACH!! REVOLT!! REVOLT!! REVOLTING!! REVOLTING!!
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Re: This is some serious BS!
[Re: Tres]
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03/03/10 10:39 PM
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Tres
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Thanks Joe. I can't imagine anyone buying the property if this were to hold up because of the shape and the fact that they would be surrounded by pissed of people on all sides, but you never know.
![[Linked Image]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Alaska/i-WSddPKG/0/c077d64b/Th/IMG_2809-Th.jpg) "Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before."
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Re: This is some serious BS!
[Re: Tres]
#1282481
03/03/10 10:45 PM
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hunter_sawyer
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Did you get title insurance when you bought the property?
Shoot Shovel Shut up
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Re: This is some serious BS!
[Re: Tres]
#1282482
03/03/10 10:45 PM
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jbhlsu
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I wish you the best of luck my friend! I just heard they are putting in a major oil well literally on my bow spot! The best part of the lease with all the cover and some of the oldest oaks on the property!!! Hell, they could drill it 400 yds to the left and not have to touch one tree?? I hope before long we will be up by you?? Its all about the mighty dollar my friend!!!! 
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Re: This is some serious BS!
[Re: jbhlsu]
#1282506
03/03/10 10:57 PM
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Tres
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Thanks Joe, have they started on the well? They staked an 18K gas well on our property over a year ago, were all gung ho, and then vanished. There's still hope bud! Maybe they'll move along!
![[Linked Image]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Alaska/i-WSddPKG/0/c077d64b/Th/IMG_2809-Th.jpg) "Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before."
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Re: This is some serious BS!
[Re: Tres]
#1282522
03/03/10 11:02 PM
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hey Tres, how long have you owned the property? It's possible that you acquired title under the doctrine of adverse possession, which requires you to openly demonstrate to the public that you are the rightful owner for a certain period of time ( i cant remember exactly how long)
Also, i'm not sure what affect the claimant being a governmental entity will have, but it's at least something worth asking your lawyer about.
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Re: This is some serious BS!
[Re: hunter_sawyer]
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03/03/10 11:04 PM
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Tres
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Did you get title insurance when you bought the property? Last part we purchased that would be affected by this was in the 1930's so not sure about insurance, I doubt it.
![[Linked Image]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Alaska/i-WSddPKG/0/c077d64b/Th/IMG_2809-Th.jpg) "Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before."
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Re: This is some serious BS!
[Re: Tres]
#1282532
03/03/10 11:05 PM
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That would make me angry too! Too bad you can't send the atty fees to the Land Commission office! 
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Re: This is some serious BS!
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#1282535
03/03/10 11:09 PM
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deerfeeder
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Whoa, I feel for ya. Fight them and good luck.
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Re: This is some serious BS!
[Re: redraider22]
#1282536
03/03/10 11:10 PM
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Tres
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hey Tres, how long have you owned the property? It's possible that you acquired title under the doctrine of adverse possession, which requires you to openly demonstrate to the public that you are the rightful owner for a certain period of time ( i cant remember exactly how long)
Also, i'm not sure what affect the claimant being a governmental entity will have, but it's at least something worth asking your lawyer about. There was a survey done by an oil company in the 1970's and they came back and said they found a piece of land that did not belong to us. My grandfather and his brother, the owners at the time, put a public notice in the paper for I think 3 months, no one claimed it and it was deeded to them, not sure if this is the piece of property in question or not, and if it is I'm not sure how that will pan out. 
![[Linked Image]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Alaska/i-WSddPKG/0/c077d64b/Th/IMG_2809-Th.jpg) "Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before."
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Re: This is some serious BS!
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#1282539
03/03/10 11:10 PM
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That really sucks! Fight em and beat em down
The beauty of the Second Ammendment is it won't be needed until they try and take it.
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Re: This is some serious BS!
[Re: RMR]
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03/03/10 11:12 PM
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Tres
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Thanks guys, they're going to get a fight! 
![[Linked Image]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Alaska/i-WSddPKG/0/c077d64b/Th/IMG_2809-Th.jpg) "Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before."
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Re: This is some serious BS!
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#1282666
03/04/10 12:22 AM
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Check Texas Real Estate laws. I don't know if it's true or not but a real estate agent told me once that if you have property on your property that someone claims, it doesn't matter if they have never fenced it or done anything to it. Also, who has been paying taxes on it for all these years?
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Re: This is some serious BS!
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#1282670
03/04/10 12:25 AM
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i know that if u have been maintaining it and it has been "ur land" by that i mean that u have been using it and what not, then it should be very hard for someone to take it from u. Same thing can happen when people move their fences back a few feet. ill have to ask my dad since the company he works for had to deal with something similiar thta u are dealing with.
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Re: This is some serious BS!
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#1282709
03/04/10 12:44 AM
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Tres
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We've been paying taxes on it forever. This is not a case of a property line being a little off, this tract they are saying is theirs runs literally right through our property, like a lazy L shape. If it were to sell our property would be cut in two! My guess is a survey was done wrong at some point, all I can think of. Be curious to hear what your dad says Brandon.
![[Linked Image]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Alaska/i-WSddPKG/0/c077d64b/Th/IMG_2809-Th.jpg) "Between two evils, I always pick the one I never tried before."
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Re: This is some serious BS!
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#1282850
03/04/10 01:36 AM
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Re: This is some serious BS!
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#1282869
03/04/10 01:43 AM
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fishonthemove
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Feel your pain, fight them back and protect your land. 
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Re: This is some serious BS!
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#1282882
03/04/10 01:45 AM
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sig226fan (Rguns.com)
duck & cover
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Find a title litigator, not a run of the mill bs lawyer.....
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Re: This is some serious BS!
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03/04/10 02:19 AM
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Yeah you need some one with experience in the field of land title, or else your lawyer may "contract" one out on his own for advice then you get to pay fees.
But dont get discouraged jut yet this sort of thing happened all the time with survey crews screwing up when I was in excavation. 9 times out of 10 who ever has been paying the taxes and demonstrating ownership wins.
If your dad and uncle adnvertised about it in the paper and no claim was made...THATS THE SMARTEST THING THEY EVER DID!!!! (if you can prove it by old news papers) especially if it was deeded to them. If they try to take it i would have notice sent to the land office of intent to reclaim taxes and upkeep.
If you can do that legally then the taxes and upkeep on the acerage over the last 70+ years would total up to a chunk of change and they may drop it.
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Re: This is some serious BS!
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03/04/10 03:10 AM
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