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 Experience With Texas Persimmon Tree? Where to Buy?
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02/24/10 12:55 AM
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Since there was a fruit tree thread started and their was some talk about Persimmon Tree I wanted to start a thread dedicated to this particular tree.
I wanted to know what epxerience / feedback people had with growing these trees in Texas? Good or bad experience?
How they did with 30-35 inches of rain? How long do they take to start producing fruit? Where is the best place to buy these in Dallas/Fort Worth or out towards Comanche County?
Thanks
Let'em go, so they can grow.
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Re: Experience With Texas Persimmon Tree? Where to Buy?
[Re: TxsOaks]
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No persimmon expert here, but they grow EVERYWHERE in the hill country. Remember that there are 2 types of persimmons, the natives, and the fuyu persimmons, which you can buy the fruit in the grocery store. Fruits from the natives are like the size of quarters, whereas the fuyus are like small to medium tomatoes. I'm sure the deer eat both, but I'd expect the natives to be much cheaper. If you go to a nursery, I would think they would likely have the fuyus.
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Re: Experience With Texas Persimmon Tree? Where to Buy?
[Re: Justin T]
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the ones I've seen have only been about the size of a dime. I spent an entire summer cleaning them off of fencelines on my brother's place in centerville (little centerville), they seem ti grow pretty good there b/c they are everywhere.
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Re: Experience With Texas Persimmon Tree? Where to Buy?
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"they grow EVERYWHERE in the hill country" I'm glad someone else said that  I try to spread the seeds. The fruit is gone by hunting season. I have seen them try to CLIMB a fence to get at the fruit.
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Re: Experience With Texas Persimmon Tree? Where to Buy?
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02/24/10 02:45 AM
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"they grow EVERYWHERE in the hill country" I'm glad someone else said that I try to spread the seeds. The fruit is gone by hunting season. I have seen them try to CLIMB a fence to get at the fruit. looks like I need to look into this
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Re: Experience With Texas Persimmon Tree? Where to Buy?
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Funny story. I used that Persimmon jelly from Walmart out back and the deer wouldn't touch it. I poured it on some dead oak leaves that were still on the scrubs over in Alabama and they beat feet to it and ate every dry leaf????
They do love the fruit here though.
You might can store it in the freezer and break it out for huntin season. Don't leave it in a jug like I did on the back porch, turned to some sorta booze that looked like chewin tobacco spit.
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Re: Experience With Texas Persimmon Tree? Where to Buy?
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02/24/10 04:07 AM
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Common Name(s): Texas Persimmon, Persimmon,Texas
Species: Diospyros texana
Synonyms:
Family: Ebenaceae
Longevity: Perennial
Origin: Native
Height: 5 m
Flowers: February - June
Fruits: Summer - Fall
Description: A much branched shrub or tree scattered on dry rocky hillsides in the southwest portion of our region. The fruit, black at maturity, is smaller than that of common persimmon and is eaten by many species of birds and mammals. The black juice of the fruits was once used as a dye for leather or buckskin.
Persimmon&PlantTypeID=3 Deer eat the daylights out of them down here. They are usually edible in August and are all around good for wildlife. I have no idea where you would buy one, sorry.
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Re: Experience With Texas Persimmon Tree? Where to Buy?
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They are really easy to grow from seeds if you want to do that. Last spring I planted some seeds in 2' long pieces of pipe that I had filled with mulch. They are about 18" tall right now.
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Grow wild all over my place in east Texas.
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We have some real nice 40'-50' trees out at our place.
They are deer magnets.
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Re: Experience With Texas Persimmon Tree? Where to Buy?
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Don't know which species you are wanting info on. In the Hill Country we have a tree I always knew as Mexican persimmon. It's a tree/shrub from 8 to 10 foot tall.
The trunk of the tree is smooth and light in color similar to a crepete myrtle. Fruit about size of nickel to quarter. It is leathery in texture, is green and turns black when ripe. Deer, racoons, turkeys, etc love them and I eat some fresh of the tree. At De Leon at Womack Nursery (google them), they show a native persimmon on their web site under wildlife cover.
Hope this helps.
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Any chance of getting these things to grow in the Panhandle?
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Don't know which species you are wanting info on. In the Hill Country we have a tree I always knew as Mexican persimmon. It's a tree/shrub from 8 to 10 foot tall.
The trunk of the tree is smooth and light in color similar to a crepete myrtle. Fruit about size of nickel to quarter. It is leathery in texture, is green and turns black when ripe. Deer, racoons, turkeys, etc love them and I eat some fresh of the tree. At De Leon at Womack Nursery (google them), they show a native persimmon on their web site under wildlife cover.
Hope this helps. Thank You So Much! We go through DeLeon all the tiime.
Let'em go, so they can grow.
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Re: Experience With Texas Persimmon Tree? Where to Buy?
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Those are good prices too. $3 per tree at 2-4 feet?
Going to have to go ahead and order a few more.
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Let'em go, so they can grow.
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Re: Experience With Texas Persimmon Tree? Where to Buy?
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02/24/10 02:43 PM
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I hunt over them all the time. One problem with planting them.. is they take a long time to mature and start producing fruit.
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7-10 years, from the reading I've done. Still, I plan on having this property until I die, so it'll be worth it to me and my son down the road to plant them all now.
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Re: Experience With Texas Persimmon Tree? Where to Buy?
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I'm planning on keeping my young trees in my backyard and watering and monitoring them this summer for an October planting. Unfortunately, I've ordered 75 oaks, 25 pecans, and 5 persimmons and I'll probably order a few more fruit trees before I'm done. Going to have my hands full.
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what about growing them from cuttings...has anyone tried......i've done some pomegranate trees and it was really easy and was a big jump start vrs. planting seeds....
i might have to try some.
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Re: Experience With Texas Persimmon Tree? Where to Buy?
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TxsOaks, I got my persimmon trees from Rohdes Nursery in Garland. If you will pm me, I can mail some seeds if you want to start them yourself.
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My wife beat the deer, coons and birds to a few of them last year.  Tbar
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Re: Experience With Texas Persimmon Tree? Where to Buy?
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Also, be aware that there are male and female trees. The female trees produce fruit.
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My papa owns a tree farm in Marlin, Texas and he sells them...
The beauty of the Second Ammendment is it won't be needed until they try and take it.
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Re: Experience With Texas Persimmon Tree? Where to Buy?
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I had one on my property when we bought it. I left it where it stood and cleaned out the surrounding cedars. It is only about 6 to 8 feet tall with a spread about the same. When it drops fruit in the spring and early summer, everything is attracted to it. I have even seen foxes sitting under it in the middle of the day trying to get the low hanging fruit. I gathered some of the fruit to try growing them from seeds on my own. Even after trying cold stratification and seed hull scarring, I have yet to have one sprout.
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Re: Experience With Texas Persimmon Tree? Where to Buy?
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My wife beat the deer, coons and birds to a few of them last year. Tbar I may be wrong but I do believe those are regular persimmons. The Texas persimmons are black when they are ripe. When they're green they are every bit as bitter as the ones in the pic.
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