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New Rifle - Need Advice
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01/26/10 08:06 PM
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Sully
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I've been deer hunting with a Savage 243 for the last 7 years. She's been a great gun, but I've lost a little confidence in her and think it's time to upgrade. I've knocked down 3 bucks, 4 does and countless hogs and coyotes with her. All perfect shots. But, 2 years ago, I lost a buck (would have been my best), slight blood trail, but I eventually lost it after about a half mile. Then this year, I hit an axis good but never could find him (not much blood trail at all) and one of the does ran a good ways before she dropped. I'm right on at the range, so sights have never been an issue. What gets me the most, is all of those shots were at or about 100-150 yds.
Long story short, I want something with more knock down power. Don't necessarily care to have anything fancy or pretty, but something functional and reliable. Would you go 270, 280, 30-06, or other? New or used?
Any suggestions in the 300-400 range for rifle only?
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: Sully]
#1199363
01/26/10 08:12 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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Savage has been geating some great review they are just ugly.
Me personaly I went up to a 25-06 from a 243 and never looked back. I'd look at 25-06 or 257wby
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: Gumbeaux]
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01/26/10 08:29 PM
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I do need to pay more attention to bullet selection. Thanks for posting that thread. I missed that one, and will keep it in mind. I've used core-lokt up to this point. I hate losing animals too, and want to do whatever I can to keep that from happening again.
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: Sully]
#1199401
01/26/10 08:31 PM
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sig226fan (Rguns.com)
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Hard to knock anything in the 270-30.06-308 categories..
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: sig226fan (Rguns.com)]
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01/26/10 09:08 PM
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Nothing wrong with the 243. Sounds to me like you need to change the bullet you are using rather than the rifle. If you just want a new rifle, a good 270 or 280 is hard to beat hunting in Texas.
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
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01/26/10 09:30 PM
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I hunt with a .243. For deer I will only use 100gr bullets..I also just purchased the academy "special" stephens model 200 in 7mm-08 that i feel alot better taking into the field just in case that 200-300 yd shot comes around
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: nmhybridhunter]
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01/26/10 09:48 PM
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Just buy a .308 barrel for your rifle and have a smith change them out. Would not need to change bolt faces or anything since the .243 uses the same one as .308... Should cost less than you intend to spend on a new/used rifle.
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: nmhybridhunter]
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01/26/10 09:50 PM
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25-06, 7mm-08, 308 or 270. any of these will get the job done.
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: exoticbob]
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01/26/10 09:57 PM
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SpoonPlatoon
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You thinking of selling the savage? I might be able to find her a good home. ( right next to all my other toys)
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: Sully]
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01/26/10 10:19 PM
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RICK O'SHAY
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300 win mag puts um down... but no mater if it's 243 or 300, shot placement makes the difference.
I've been shooting an dropping deer for years with a 6mm but I do shoot um with 300 also.
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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01/26/10 10:26 PM
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i do still grab my 243 when my wifes not using it every now and then.. i started shooting the 85 grain TSX and gotten exits on both deer I have shot with them.
I use them and partitons in my 25-06 and its ugly. Nice mess
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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01/26/10 10:41 PM
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Texas Whitetail Hunter
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(At Academy) Weatherby Vanguard 1 in (.270,30-06,308,25-06,7mm mag) price 399.99 Remington 770 combo in (270,30-06) price 349.99 Brand new for both of them
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: Texas Whitetail Hunter]
#1199688
01/26/10 10:42 PM
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Koenig
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
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01/27/10 04:01 AM
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Stick with the Savage, but go up in caliber. Love my Savage Sierra in 7mm-08/Nikon 3X9. I wish I had an excuse to get another one, Savage has a new aluminum bedding system that is very nice.
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: Sully]
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01/27/10 04:19 AM
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First of all axis are tough and dont bleed. Get new bullets first and you will be fine. I like Remington because Savage is so ugly and cheap looking.
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: exoticbob]
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01/27/10 04:54 AM
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On the AR 15 platform with a 16 inch barrel the 6.8 SPC is a great 300-400 yard deer rifle.
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: TexasVine]
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01/27/10 04:57 AM
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Pick up a stevens 200 for $250 new from academy in .270 it will serve you well and leave lots of money for a scope bullets and maybe even a doe hunt.
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: scot]
#1200952
01/27/10 02:37 PM
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7mm-08 or a 6.5x55 Swede, even a 257 Roberts
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: RKHarm24]
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01/27/10 02:49 PM
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I know your delima I lost one with 243 this year and I have been looking in to the 7mm 08 and 270. I found an old 700 ADL in 270 at the pawn shop for cheap. I'm thinking about making it my winter project.
�A hunt based only on the trophies taken falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be.� -Fred Bear
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: Sirrah243]
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01/27/10 05:19 PM
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I know the 243 will get the job done, and plan on keeping it. More or less just looking for a reason to get another rifle. Thanks for the responses.
I haven't heard much about the 280, but am interested for some reason. Is it still considered a fad caliber? I think I'd have to go Remington or Ruger in 280 if I can find a good deal on a used one, unless there are any other recommendations.
If I went with a new 270, it'll be a toss up between the XL7 and another Savage, I think.
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: Sully]
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01/27/10 05:45 PM
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280 is a good round, but 270 is the same case but just slightly necked down and w/ more ammo choices. but hey, nothing wrong with being different - it just comes down to ammo choice availability.
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: exoticbob]
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01/27/10 07:03 PM
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It's all about shot placement and bullet selection. Friend of mine shot a buck a couple of years ago at 312 yards with his .243. Right behind the shoulder,90 grain Nosler BT and got a pass-thru. Deer ran maybe 50 yards before piling up.
On same note, a guy shot about a 150 class buck this year, 50 yards with 30/06. Says he shot it right behind the shoulder and we only found 3 spots of blood about the size of an eraser. We never found the deer and no buzzards, so hopefully, it was a bad shot, but nobody has seen hide or hair of this deer since, and nobody got it on camera anymore. He is a good shot, and he checked his rifle and it was on.
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Re: New Rifle - Need Advice
[Re: Precision_Shooter]
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01/28/10 06:13 PM
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Just buy a .308 barrel for your rifle and have a smith change them out. Would not need to change bolt faces or anything since the .243 uses the same one as .308... Should cost less than you intend to spend on a new/used rifle. This is harder than you think  . ive been doing it for a couple of years now and havent found one that was priced right! The bullet selection for 243 is wide! look at the partition line. The core lokt bullets seem to get a bad rap for a lot of people, and i have hunted with 243 for a while myself.
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