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Re: game warden checked up on us [Re: TXMikeMcC] #1191333 01/22/10 09:39 PM
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cant remember his name but the warden in mills county is a super good dude.


that's who walked up on us. His first name was Gary, can't for the life of me remember his last name. He retired about 2 years ago. The new warden is Vance Flowers, I've heard nothing but great things about him.


Thats it !!! Vance Flowers is who come to the cabin, and i promise you this guy is a super good dude. He is retired Irving Police Officer and also ex-border patrol. He stayed and talked for a while and just hung out. Great Experience


Re: game warden checked up on us [Re: cleatas] #1191571 01/22/10 11:17 PM
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I've been checked by wardens numerous times in many different circumstances over the years, and almost all of them have been good experiences. The occasional overly rude guy, but nothing over the top. Most of them as mentioned by others will hang out and chew the fat and even let you pick their brain when they're done with their business.

There was a time though many years ago when a small group of us (six or so) were at our bird lease in what I believe was Jack County. After a day of dove hunting, a few had already turned in and three of us were sitting around the fire drinking beer and swapping stories. It was around 1:00 AM when all of a sudden, a man appeared in our camp no more than 10-12 feet from where I was sitting and put his flashlight on us and announced his presence.....scared the crap out of us. It took a few seconds to figure it out, but it was the warden and it was as if he had appeared out of thin air. Of course he went on to check all our guns, vests, coolers, my truck tool box, and even under the hood of my truck. Of course he didn't find any violations and finally said goodbye and wandered off in the darkness back to his vehicle.

I always thought that was pretty ballsy, dangerous....and perhaps a little irresponsible....to just walk into someone's camp like that in total darkness. I mean to me, if you frighten the wrong folks, that situation could go south in a hurry.

On a side note, I remember twice getting caught by the warden with beer after hunts when we were underage, and they could have cared less. One even told us to make sure we drank it all so the sheriff wouldn't catch us with it......'course that was a long time ago.


Re: game warden checked up on us [Re: robbf213] #1192364 01/23/10 07:59 AM
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I agree with all of these replies that have to do with letting, and I mean 'letting' GW's on the land. The only time they can legally come on private property is when they, just as all law enforcement agents, have a reasonable doubt/belief that a crime is being committed.
Contrary to popular belief, a game warden has no more authority to come on private property without a warrant or the landowners permission other than his observance of a crime. (This does not disallow them watching through binocs.)If someone doesn't believe me, please post the law that says a game warden has the right to come on any private property anytime, anywhere he/she wants.
Please post the law that says a GW can walk a mile into your private property and just 'nose around'.
I'll wait.


You still waiting?

Sec. 12.103. ENTERING LAND; USE OF INFORMATION OBTAINED BY ENTRY; CIVIL PENALTY. (a) To enforce the game and fish laws of the state and to conduct scientific investigations and research regarding wild game or fish, an authorized employee of the department may enter on any land or water where wild game or fish are known to range or stray. No action may be sustained against an employee of the department to prevent his entering on land or water when acting in his official capacity as described by this subsection.


(a) To enforce the game and fish laws of the state......

Still the same as any other LEO.
Just as the police still have to have probable cause to come into your house without a warrant if they suspect a crime is in progress. The key words there are 'enforce' and 'probable cause'. If they see an obvious violation, whoops, probable cause!
Are you telling me that they have the right to cut the chain on my gate on my property and just drive around as they please? No LEO has that right.
I would hate to see the transcript of a trial like that.

Defense attorney-"So Officer, can you tell us how you and your partner came to find and arrest my client?"
LEO-"Well, we were just riding around, and I said to my partner, 'Hey! This looks like a good spot to hunt. Want to ride around on this private property and see what we can find?' He said sure! So we just cut the lock on the gate, drove in , and after driving for about 30 minutes finally came across the defendant."

Don't get me wrong. My family and I always welcome the GW, and on all my families property we have always told them that they could come anytime.
In my 50 years of hunting and fishing, I have yet to have a bad experience. All have been courteous and VERY professional.


Re: game warden checked up on us [Re: Nonsequitur] #1192415 01/23/10 01:34 PM
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Re: game warden checked up on us [Re: Nonsequitur] #1192424 01/23/10 01:47 PM
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nonsequitor - roll these phrases around in your head for a minute:

Heard shots fired coming from the general direction of...
During a routine traffic stop, I smelled what I suspected to be...

Now, imagine a defense attorney attempting to disprove either statement.


Re: game warden checked up on us [Re: RonKaye] #1192455 01/23/10 02:22 PM
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Believe it or Not, if they have reasonable suspicion that you have more game in your freezer than allowed. They can check it without a warrant.

Now back to venting. We have all seen the GW that shot the big deer in Kaufman County. We were checked by him while we were in the Feild Dove hunting. Late afternoon as the Dove are really moving before Sunset. Basically ending our hunt. I even questioned him about it as a Double flew over the Hay bale I was on. He just laughed. Oh well, next time he will have to walk to me.


Re: game warden checked up on us [Re: RonKaye] #1192485 01/23/10 02:49 PM
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New to the forum...but here's my take:

Game Wardens may enter private land for the sole purpose of enforcing the the fish and game laws in Texas; this can mean everything from deer hunting to ensuring that protected species such as hawks are not being illegally trapped hunted or killed; illegal quail trapping is another example...and there are many more (too long to list). Any of these can happen at anytime of the year...so if wild animals are known to roam the area the game warden may enter. Remember...property rights are like a bundle of sticks, you own some and some you don't. An example would be mineral rights and in this case, if wild animals roam the land, you don't have the right to restrict the game warden from entering. That said, most game wardens are acutely aware of the fact that entering private land is much like entering someone's living room...I think they would always like to have the owner's blessing...and from the sound of the board...this is usually the case.

On the subject of getting through locked gates you probably need to ask yourself a few questions...why would a warden take steps to circumvent the lock? I can think of one...thier patrol truck is their lifeline...the radio in the truck is much more powerful; they have access to greater firepower in the very, very, rare case it is needed; investigational tools are at hand; law books are available if questions arrive; etc. I think all would like to have mutually agreed upon access, but remember, the warden must get to know their area, the ranchers and landowners, as well as the leasors; often times they must get through a locked gate in order to do this...

On the subject of warrants for cabins, tents, etc...they need a warrant....unless exigent circumstances exist and the warden can articulate this fact. An example would be the warden sees blood drops that lead into the hunting cabin and the hunters claim nothing has been killed; the cabin is remote and the warden is by him or herself and communications might not be possible in this area. An exigent circumstance is most likely to exist by a "reasonable person" standard; in doing so, the warden would likely conduct a search based on the facts given above due to the exigent circumstance that evidence could be destroyed or hidden if the warden were to leave and get a warrant from the judge.

Just my .02

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Re: game warden checked up on us [Re: Nonsequitur] #1192670 01/23/10 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: Nonsequitur
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I agree with all of these replies that have to do with letting, and I mean 'letting' GW's on the land. The only time they can legally come on private property is when they, just as all law enforcement agents, have a reasonable doubt/belief that a crime is being committed.
Contrary to popular belief, a game warden has no more authority to come on private property without a warrant or the landowners permission other than his observance of a crime. (This does not disallow them watching through binocs.)If someone doesn't believe me, please post the law that says a game warden has the right to come on any private property anytime, anywhere he/she wants.
Please post the law that says a GW can walk a mile into your private property and just 'nose around'.
I'll wait.


You still waiting?

Sec. 12.103. ENTERING LAND; USE OF INFORMATION OBTAINED BY ENTRY; CIVIL PENALTY. (a) To enforce the game and fish laws of the state and to conduct scientific investigations and research regarding wild game or fish, an authorized employee of the department may enter on any land or water where wild game or fish are known to range or stray. No action may be sustained against an employee of the department to prevent his entering on land or water when acting in his official capacity as described by this subsection.


(a) To enforce the game and fish laws of the state......

Still the same as any other LEO.
Just as the police still have to have probable cause to come into your house without a warrant if they suspect a crime is in progress. The key words there are 'enforce' and 'probable cause'. If they see an obvious violation, whoops, probable cause!
Are you telling me that they have the right to cut the chain on my gate on my property and just drive around as they please? No LEO has that right.
I would hate to see the transcript of a trial like that.

Defense attorney-"So Officer, can you tell us how you and your partner came to find and arrest my client?"
LEO-"Well, we were just riding around, and I said to my partner, 'Hey! This looks like a good spot to hunt. Want to ride around on this private property and see what we can find?' He said sure! So we just cut the lock on the gate, drove in , and after driving for about 30 minutes finally came across the defendant."

Don't get me wrong. My family and I always welcome the GW, and on all my families property we have always told them that they could come anytime.
In my 50 years of hunting and fishing, I have yet to have a bad experience. All have been courteous and VERY professional.


Its hunting season, thats about all the propable cause they need to enter your property and check you, period. Can they pick the lock on your cabin or house and check inside, no, but they can enter private land to check/enforce game laws during hunting season if someone is on the property, whether or not they hear a shot or witness a violation, yes thhey can. The game belongs to the state regardless of who's land its on.

I happen to be very good friends with a couple of State GW's so I know a little about how it works.


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One off season years ago, we were sighting our rifles in in the middle of our nearly 800 acre lease when out of nowhere, the county GW walked out of the woods to check us out. It was all good but when he left, he just disappeared back into the woods. We heard no vehicle or anything......kinda freaked us out.


Re: game warden checked up on us [Re: RonKaye] #1193412 01/24/10 02:21 AM
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nonsequitor - roll these phrases around in your head for a minute:

Heard shots fired coming from the general direction of...
During a routine traffic stop, I smelled what I suspected to be...

Now, imagine a defense attorney attempting to disprove either statement.


"I see. May I remind you that the issue here is probable cause and not whether or not my client was in violation of any game laws."

"Approximately how many hunters are there in Texas? In the county where you arrested my client?"

"And since you heard these shots from the 'general direction of blahblahblah,' how can you be sure they were shots fired by my client and not some other person who hunts in Texas or in that county?"

"Can you tell me about your training in locating a shooter based on the sound of a shot heard from an unknown distance away and coming from a vague direction?"

...Remember that it's not defense's responsibility to disprove a statement by a prosecution witness; it's defense's goal to discredit the witness or the statement. Ultimately, anything that isn't a question of law will be up to the jury to determine and that's not always so easy to predict.





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Never had a problem at all with Game Wardens - usually sociable, but normally all business until they get to know you. Tough job, especially during hunting season when they know nearly every person they encounter also has a weapon. My wife was one of the first women in the state to be accepted and hired as a GW. This was in the mid 80's. While she was going through her peace officers certification and shortly before she was to be stationed at Lake Worth, she got pregnant. Became a teacher of natural science instead.



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nonsequitor - roll these phrases around in your head for a minute:

Heard shots fired coming from the general direction of...
During a routine traffic stop, I smelled what I suspected to be...

Now, imagine a defense attorney attempting to disprove either statement.


"I see. May I remind you that the issue here is probable cause and not whether or not my client was in violation of any game laws."

"Approximately how many hunters are there in Texas? In the county where you arrested my client?"

"And since you heard these shots from the 'general direction of blahblahblah,' how can you be sure they were shots fired by my client and not some other person who hunts in Texas or in that county?"

"Can you tell me about your training in locating a shooter based on the sound of a shot heard from an unknown distance away and coming from a vague direction?"

...Remember that it's not defense's responsibility to disprove a statement by a prosecution witness; it's defense's goal to discredit the witness or the statement. Ultimately, anything that isn't a question of law will be up to the jury to determine and that's not always so easy to predict.


That may sound good to you, but in the real world it doesn't work that way.
First of all, lawyering up will likely cost more than the violation anyway.
Second, if it was so easy to beat the rap like that, Game Wardens would not use the methods they use. One or 2 lost cases with time and money wasted and they'd change the way they operate.
Third, show me cases where some lawyer tap danced around and got a client off because the Game warden had no right to be on that ranch. If I was a juror and you played that angle, you'd go down in flames. Of course the lawyer would still get his money.
and Last, this is a really good way to have the Wardens show up every time you go hunting, looking for any minor violation they can find. Wardens probably don't like being 'Discredited'.

For me its, Yes-sir, No-sir, drop by any time you are around. I got nothing to hide.


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nonsequitor - roll these phrases around in your head for a minute:

Heard shots fired coming from the general direction of...
During a routine traffic stop, I smelled what I suspected to be...

Now, imagine a defense attorney attempting to disprove either statement.


"I see. May I remind you that the issue here is probable cause and not whether or not my client was in violation of any game laws."

Response: Based upon the evidence I observed, I had reason to believe that hunting was occurring, and the dictates of my commission are that I determine that appropriate laws are being adhered to in the process.

"Approximately how many hunters are there in Texas? In the county where you arrested my client?"

Response: Quite a few, though I don't have a firm count. I do know that there are more hunters than lawyers, thank God! (judge calls for order as defense's objection is drowned out by laughter)

"And since you heard these shots from the 'general direction of blahblahblah,' how can you be sure they were shots fired by my client and not some other person who hunts in Texas or in that county?"

Can't be sure, but it's my job to find out, just like it's your job to get your client off. That's why I went to look.

"Can you tell me about your training in locating a shooter based on the sound of a shot heard from an unknown distance away and coming from a vague direction?"

Response: Well, I've had these ears pretty much all my life, and have used them almost as long to locate the source of sounds and track game. If you're asking whether the state has some nifty program to augment the senses God gave us, the answer is 'no.' But I just gotta ask, do they have classes in law school where they teach you to completely ignore common sense and good judgment, or do you have to possess those qualities just to get in? (Defense moves to strike - again, drowned out by laughter - state agrees to strike that last statement, but it's too late. The point is clearly made, and the jury heard it loud and clear).

...Remember that it's not defense's responsibility to disprove a statement by a prosecution witness; it's defense's goal to discredit the witness or the statement.

Response: Guess I'm too dense to discern that there'd be a real difference in the jury's eyes between disproving a statement and discrediting one. And if the defense posed the kind of questions listed above, they would pretty well discredit themselves to a jury of reasonably intelligent folks. And I don't think the defense would be able to count on a panel populated with nothing but morons.

Ultimately, anything that isn't a question of law will be up to the jury to determine and that's not always so easy to predict.


Response: That's right. And that's why you'd have a tough time finding an attorney willing to present (or a grand jury willing to indict) a case as described above (unless, of course, the camera crews were there, and the barrister cared more about reputation than credibility).


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nonsequitor - roll these phrases around in your head for a minute:

Heard shots fired coming from the general direction of...
During a routine traffic stop, I smelled what I suspected to be...

Now, imagine a defense attorney attempting to disprove either statement.


"I see. May I remind you that the issue here is probable cause and not whether or not my client was in violation of any game laws."

"Approximately how many hunters are there in Texas? In the county where you arrested my client?"

"And since you heard these shots from the 'general direction of blahblahblah,' how can you be sure they were shots fired by my client and not some other person who hunts in Texas or in that county?"

"Can you tell me about your training in locating a shooter based on the sound of a shot heard from an unknown distance away and coming from a vague direction?"

...Remember that it's not defense's responsibility to disprove a statement by a prosecution witness; it's defense's goal to discredit the witness or the statement. Ultimately, anything that isn't a question of law will be up to the jury to determine and that's not always so easy to predict.


That may sound good to you, but in the real world it doesn't work that way.
First of all, lawyering up will likely cost more than the violation anyway.
Second, if it was so easy to beat the rap like that, Game Wardens would not use the methods they use. One or 2 lost cases with time and money wasted and they'd change the way they operate.
Third, show me cases where some lawyer tap danced around and got a client off because the Game warden had no right to be on that ranch. If I was a juror and you played that angle, you'd go down in flames. Of course the lawyer would still get his money.
and Last, this is a really good way to have the Wardens show up every time you go hunting, looking for any minor violation they can find. Wardens probably don't like being 'Discredited'.

For me its, Yes-sir, No-sir, drop by any time you are around. I got nothing to hide.


That discussion was, in my opinion, about court room stuff, not about how to handle a GW in the field. Ron mentioned phrases often used to justify police activity in reports or deposition/testimony. My point was that those things don't always turn out as well as they sound: defense has options.

The time to question probable cause is not when the LEO is in your face, particularly when he or she has found you in violation. That's a matter to be discussed with the DA or in court and those are exactly the times when you should lawyer up.





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Response: That's right. And that's why you'd have a tough time finding an attorney willing to present (or a grand jury willing to indict) a case as described above (unless, of course, the camera crews were there, and the barrister cared more about reputation than credibility).


Similar tactics have been used to beat all sorts of probable cause cases. However, the law regarding a GW's entry onto private property appears to have nothing to do with probable cause of a violation of the law but only "knowledge" that wild fish or game may be found there.

Looking at practitioner sources instead of statutes will tell us a lot more about GW powers in reality than a bunch of mostly anonymous opinions expressed in an Internet forum debate. According to Texas Jurisprudence, "Authorized employees of the Parks and Wildlife Department may enter on any land or water where wild game or fish are known to range or stray for the purpose of enforcing the fish and game laws or for the purpose of conducting scientific investigation and research regarding fish and game." 41 Tex. Jur. 3d Fish and Game § 15.

Note that "suspicion of hunting activity" is irrelevant because the power to enter land is based on the property being "where wild game or fish are known to range or stray," not the presence of hunting.

Entering your house without a warrant is a different deal.

I'm not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.





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Yes sir, No sir...thanks for doing your job, we appreciate what you do.....the end.


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If you have an electrical meter on your property, then your local electricity provider generally has a lock on your gate chain as well. Therefore, the GW has a key to your property.


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This past season we got a new GW in Baylor county. All I can say is that he is a hell of a nice guy, and that I could see myself enjoying a cold one with him. I'm sure he wouldn't let anything slide, but I wouldn't expect him to.


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Never really had a bad confrontation with any of our GW; was checked by a new one or one from another county opening day of Teal Season back in the early 80's when coming out of the marsh in my boat. Even though the other game warden had known me and my father for years, I stopped to say 'hello' to Kenny away. He asked me how I did and I had shot my 4 and was about to head out of Mud Lake and back to the boat ramp at Highlands Bayou. The other warden, a female, wanted me to stay there while she inspected my boat, boxes, gun, license and what-not and even though Kenny said, 'I know Chris and the family", she wanted to see for herself. I said, no problem and gave her my license, pulled up the plywood floor (just a sheet between the ribs of the flat-bottom for easy walking) and the working bow & stern lights.

All was fine and I went on my way.


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Buddy of mine told me about that trick (GW told him) where they had caught a poacher on their lease last year. The trick as I recall relates to combo locks and your right no picking or code list is required. My buddy switched to a high security key lock and I think they gave the GW a copy.


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The only beef that I have with GW's is their attitude. I think their job descriptions requires them to have a piss poor attitude. They have a guilty until proven innocent mentality for the most part. I had one check me bird hunting one time. He checked my gun, birds, and liscense. All was well. He then asked to search my vehicle and then tried to contact the land owner to see if I had permission to hunt. He said he was confident that he could find something to cite me on. After wasting a good 30 more minutes of digging and finding nothing. He up and left. No goodbye or have a nice day. I tell you. Common courtesy goes a long way, but they don't teach that at the GW academy.


but see that was with that particular one, not all of them. 99.999999% are good people who are doing their job. very rare that you get the other percent.


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Yep, I've been checked on land, in salt water, and fresh water and haven't met a bad one yet.



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Re: game warden checked up on us [Re: MaggieMTx] #1855236 11/22/10 05:45 PM
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The other percent retired from a county I used to hunt. I had dropped off pictures at the land owners house, when he wasn't home. He anted a copy of some I had been taking of deer on the lease, so I put them n an envelope between the stornm door and the wood door since he wasn;t home at the time. It had rained so instead of turning around in his yard I backed out of the drive. The GW pulled in behind me and detained me there for over an hour running my drivers license, cheking my hunting license, the bow case and cooler etc. When the land owner got home and ask what was going on, the warden told him that it wasn't normal for someone to back out of his drive way instead of turning around in the yard like most do. The land owner thanked me for the pictures not rutting up the yard. Only then did the warden return my license and tell me I could leave. Since it was getting late the landowner and I just looked at the pictures and visited a while instead of my going hunting as it was getting late to get to place i was going to hunt that afternoon. We had good visit and both of us agreed that GW was an [censored}.

I knew several others that had issues with that warden, even the other GW for that county was glad when he retired.



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