man this stuff is just plain aggravating the tar out of me. I understand a lot of you guys are new to the forum, and maybe new to waterfowling too. A lot of you think us long time members on here are snobs because we won't give out any info on anything and we get our feathers ruffled when we see a lake name....

The reason we get that way has absolutely nothing to do with your post or questions. It's absolutely nothing personal. I love meeting new fellas and finding new spots/hunting together. I can name nearly 10 guys off the top of my head that I've met off of here in the last year. This year we have done a lot of scouting and hunting together already. I'v been pming another 4-5 guys that I want to get with before this season ends too. But my point is when you post a lake name and want some info on it there's no telling how many "lurkers"(people that just watch and read posts, but never post anything themselves) are out there just waiting to see something about a lake in thier area.

Now think about that last sentence real hard. I've seen some 'lake name' post with over 600 views, but maybe only 20-30 replies. Lets say some of those views are the same people going back to it, but still there's probably 400 other people that you don't realize have only seen that post. Now I'm sure you know as well as I do that it doesn't take very many people to over crowd most lakes. But you've just publicised a lake even more than it already is. Now if you can tell me that you don't think that will put more pressure on an area then I guess this post os completely worthelss to you. I just figure that maybe I can plant some seeds in just a few people's heads and that will make me a little bit happy.

With that being said I grew up in the Dallas area and now live in Austin. If anybody has questions on anything I'll be more than happy to help a brotha out. Just please send me a pm. Still not giving out specific spots though That is all

very solid

The XXX WMA thread is perfect example. 338 views so far and only 22 replies, 5 of those views are probably mine, but I guarantee that 100 of those views are lurkers trying to get any info they can without leaving the house.

Right now I'd love to name my lake. Everybody would show up and get miffed because there are no ducks, leave and never come back.

Well said buddy, I would like to come up your way this season and whack some ducks. PM any time you are in DFW and we will go get them. I can't wait to see Cali in action this year

I'm with you, which is why when I see the dang xxx WMA posts I don't reply and keep the thread out in the open.

I've always said and will always point a new waterfowler looking for a places to hunt to get the Annual Use Permit from TPWD, which will provide them with all the information they need. The other resource that is readly available is a book published by Texas Fish and Game, Texas Waterfowl.

I still consider myself new and had no opinion on the subject, but after having gone through some seasons, and having to travel to the WMA to find spots to walk in, I've developed my opinion that giving out Lake Names on the internet absolutely slays me.

Now that being said, I may have dropped a reply or two on lakes being named, which only aidded in keeping the thread on the top page of that area of the forum, and for that I'm sorry if I upset anyone. I truly enjoy duck hunting over other oppertunities, such as the deer hunting on private leases.

Fowldream,

I think you put it best, a xxx wma thread will draw 25 replies, and over 500 views. And while many lakes seem large they are truly not when it comes to actual huntable area. And if you're packing it in by foot, that small area gets even smaller.

If nothing else, can the moderators get together and form some guidelines on the subject. Sniper_john puts out information and is pretty fair about it. Guy has always pulled post with lake names, so you truly have two modes that can state the points to two sides of the coin.

Not only would I like to see lake naming being establish a poor edicate, the bashing of folks new to the forum is just as wrong. Yes it is upsetting when a person gets on the forum and says, Hey, new to the area, where can I go.....

I saw a post early part of fall\end of summer of someone kid that started school in College Station and was looking for information. I've never seen the guy come back with the verbal beating he got just for trying to get information. I put my usually go get the APH, but by the time I posted, the first 10 posts where brutal.

Could that person have been untruthful about his situation and was just trolling, possible. But I truly believed he was just freaking lost and didn't have a clue at where to begin getting information on hunting in Texas. I moved here in 2006 and was lucky enough to hook up with Treebass, who help get me information you guys have grown up knowning or having lived here for several years knew where to go. TPWD only just resently updated Hunting information on there web site making it useful, or putting the informationn in easier to find locations.

The building I work at has over 100 people and guess what, I'm the only person that hunts. Maybe a few people fish. My point is that hunting as a communitee needs each and every member. And when someone is lost we need to help, just privately in a PM.

Also, I might add, although some of those are lurkers who frequent this forum, if you google xxx wma hunting, it will show up on there. So it's not isolated to people who view this forum, it's availiable for the entire world to see.

That would be the www part of www.texashuntingforum.com. Right?

very good point cboone!!!

Matter of fact I think that's how I found this place

It's how I found the fishing forum then eventually found my way here from that.

i heard birds were flyin in on granger lake

and the north end of ray roberts.... but thats just what i heard.

there public lakes and yes lakes have ducks

no, they were really flyin there. pm me if u want cooridinates.

selfish american greed at its finest

yeah I have been reading through some of this section for about 2 hrs now and I am stunned. Never wouldve expected Texas hunters to act like this reguardless of what they are hunting.

If you just learned about what is happening at public lakes in the last 2 hours of reading then you could not possible know the whole story.

Solid post fowlDream. I swear to God above, talking to some of these folks is like a one sided conversation with narrow minded wall.

Hey fowldreams, clean out your PMs

It will never stop. There are too many idiots out there.

Cooper, Lavon and T-Wok all have ducks right now! I seen them while fishing!

Good luck everyone!

and it continues

Then you obviously do not understand that there are a finite number of public spots to hunt. Futhermore, any jackasss that gets his information about where to hunt on the internet, is 100x more likely to set up 50 yards from you and play his Kazoo all morning.

What amazes me is the number of lazy people that can operate Google or their truck to check out the lakes in their area.

I took at least 10 new people hunting last year. All of them went with me to public spots. I have nothing against new waterfowlers who are willing to put in their time and do some homework. I despise people who expect to be spoon fed success. I suspect the majority of internet scouters voted for Obama.

I am new to Texas and need some places to hunt. If you are so generous could you please provide me with the location of all your honey holes. Oh yeah, I only shoot green heads so those are the only ones I want. Don't worry about pm'ing me, just a regular thread titled MY MALLARD SHOOTING HONEY HOLES would suffice.

Loose lips sink ships!

x2, and extra bonus points for saying it in a nice way.

Last season I hunted private 80% of the time, this season it will probably be 90 to 95%. So quite frankly, the lake naming does not impact me. But I fully respect the guys that put in the hard work scouting their preferred public locations, I have been their and done that.

Even as a beginner, you work hard scouting metromess walk-in locations that to the more seasoned duck hunter is “no big deal, everyone knows about that area anyways”, but to the beginner putting in the hard work to find their own, especially they find an area holding ducks, it is a big deal, and very deflating to work hard to find your own, only to see it advertized on the internet to cyber scouters, many of which are not even members of the forum, they are just lurking. I personally do not get the mentality to hurt the guys that work hard, and help the cyber scouters. It really is a “redistribution of duck hunter wealth”.

Internet scouting combined with boom scouting can mess up a preferred hunting area pretty quick.

The deer hunters would understand if they only hunted public land instead of leases.

If you spotted a trophy buck on public land are you going to tell anyone where or are you just going to go back to that spot and hope to get him yourself?

Think of it this way:
- You go out all off season planting food plots, clearing senderos, putting up hog panels to protect your feeders, setting up a blind, checking the game cam, burning miles to and from your spot and then someone comes in and sits in your blind and shoots your trophy 10 point buck and then pisses on your feeder.

That's what its like for a public duck hunter who does all the scouting and then has to deal with internet scouters setting up 75 yards away playing the kazoo and skybusting every duck in the same county.