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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: unclebubba]
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08/05/18 07:09 PM
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HandgunHTR
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So, everyone who is arguing that clips and magazines are the same, you are all OK with AR-15s being called assault rifles then?
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: HandgunHTR]
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08/05/18 09:43 PM
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So, everyone who is arguing that clips and magazines are the same, you are all OK with AR-15s being called assault rifles then? Is there a political agenda being driven forward by calling magazines "clips?"
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: HandgunHTR]
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08/05/18 10:40 PM
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So, everyone who is arguing that clips and magazines are the same, you are all OK with AR-15s being called assault rifles then? That’s about the third post saying folks are arguing they are the same. Total straw man. There’s not one person that has argued that. Zero. Everyone who has posted on here knows the difference. The post is about who gets their panties in a wad about others who use the words interchangeably.
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: unclebubba]
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08/05/18 11:20 PM
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Are there different terms for people who do their own scouting prepping and kill a mature animal and those who pay a guide to do everything except pull the trigger?
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: unclebubba]
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08/05/18 11:26 PM
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I know the difference but I don't correct people who use the words interchangeably because that's obnoxious. That would be worth doing if you were at Cabelas and asked for stripper clips and they gave you a box magazine instead but I've never had that problem.
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: unclebubba]
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08/05/18 11:36 PM
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Usually I just smirk, maybe a little chuckle and let it go. Most times the offender will ask what that means, or the others in a group conversation will laugh.
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: unclebubba]
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08/05/18 11:40 PM
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Very low on my G.A.S. scale.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: jeffbird]
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08/07/18 01:00 AM
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What do y’all think about them 7.3 Ford motors? Wish they still put them in F250's. You haven’t driven a deleted new one then
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: Ramball36]
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08/07/18 03:33 AM
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What do y’all think about them 7.3 Ford motors? Wish they still put them in F250's. You haven’t driven a deleted new one then No, considering the penalties, and dealers will not work on them or take them in trade, until the extended warranty runs out mine is staying stock. After that, it will be traded off. The durability and reliability of the 7.3 is its appeal to me. My current 6.7 has required more work than any of my other previous trucks including a 6.4 - never owned a 6.0 thankfully.
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: unclebubba]
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08/07/18 08:50 PM
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It is slang from a generation that earned the right to call it whatever they please. The issue may be some are too young to have known the great men that wanted a 30 round banana clip in their M1 carbine. That is the term my 84 year old father inlaw, a former marine who served in the Korean War, uses to describe the hi capacity mags he has for his old M1 Carbine. Which he describes as "handy". He is still fiesty enough that i would make a special trip to watch one of you correct him about his magazines.
Smokey Bear---Lone Star State.
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: Smokey Bear]
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08/07/18 08:59 PM
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SapperTitan
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It is slang from a generation that earned the right to call it whatever they please. The issue may be some are too young to have known the great men that wanted a 30 round banana clip in their M1 carbine. That is the term my 84 year old father inlaw, a former marine who served in the Korean War, uses to describe the hi capacity mags he has for his old M1 Carbine. Which he describes as "handy". He is still fiesty enough that i would make a special trip to watch one of you correct him about his magazines. Everyone in the military is taught to correct things they see that are wrong even if the person outranks you. The key is to do it tactfully and not embarrass the person when you educate them. If you just stand by and watch something that’s wrong without correcting it you just created a new standard a subpar standard.
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: unclebubba]
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08/07/18 10:15 PM
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Visiting with him about it in the past, it was an era when the standard battle rifle was the M1 Garand. Ammunition was carried in "clips". Just the way it was. Things change.
Smokey Bear---Lone Star State.
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: Smokey Bear]
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08/07/18 10:25 PM
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Visiting with him about it in the past, it was an era when the standard battle rifle was the M1 Garand. Ammunition was carried in "clips". Just the way it was. Things change.
yes they were carried in clips back then now a days they are in magazines. The description for an M4 is The M4/M4A1 5.56mm Carbine is a lightweight, gas operated, air cooled, magazine fed, selective rate, shoulder fired weapon with a collapsible stock.
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: RJH1]
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08/07/18 10:33 PM
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I figure if someone buys a gun they can call it what they want.
Also what about the Savage 99C, Can anyone guess what that C stands for? the C most definitely does not stand for "clip".......... in no historical literature does the word clip ever show up, however the term rotary and detachable magazine show plenty. the 99 was a co-op of designs from savage and colt... just say'n clips are for hair......
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: Smokey Bear]
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08/07/18 10:36 PM
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Visiting with him about it in the past, it was an era when the standard battle rifle was the M1 Garand. Ammunition was carried in "clips". Just the way it was. Things change. yes ammunition was carried on "stripper clips" but then it was put into the guns internal box "MAGAZINE".....
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: SingleShot85]
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08/07/18 10:59 PM
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Visiting with him about it in the past, it was an era when the standard battle rifle was the M1 Garand. Ammunition was carried in "clips". Just the way it was. Things change. yes ammunition was carried on "stripper clips" but then it was put into the guns internal box "MAGAZINE"..... I'm quite aware. I just chuckle at the prospect of someone convincing the father in law his vernacular is wrong. Although at 84 time has altered his physicality, in his mind, he is still a rough and tumble jarhead that's not gonna take crap from man or beast. When he gets heated up, he can still lay down a string of profanity laced dialog with the best.
Smokey Bear---Lone Star State.
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: Smokey Bear]
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08/08/18 01:00 AM
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Visiting with him about it in the past, it was an era when the standard battle rifle was the M1 Garand. Ammunition was carried in "clips". Just the way it was. Things change. yes ammunition was carried on "stripper clips" but then it was put into the guns internal box "MAGAZINE"..... I'm quite aware. I just chuckle at the prospect of someone convincing the father in law his vernacular is wrong. Although at 84 time has altered his physicality, in his mind, he is still a rough and tumble jarhead that's not gonna take crap from man or beast. When he gets heated up, he can still lay down a string of profanity laced dialog with the best. Grandpa and a bud (80's) were trying to stretch 5 stand barb wire on a short 100' run. Dad (60's) said to me "please go handle this". I walked up and told them to have a seat and let the youngster do it (in my early 30's then). I started on the top wire. The friend of grandpa said "I was taught to start at the bottom and work up". I said, "yessir, I've tried that, and on a wood brace, by the time that top wire is tight, and has taken all the slack out of the brace, the bottom wire will be like a wet noodle." Then I proved my way to work, with no other words said. Point being, doing something wrong for 80 years doesn't make it right by seniority.
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: unclebubba]
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08/08/18 01:36 AM
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We almost universally use the word "accuracy" when what we are really talking about is "precision."
So what. We still understand each other.
Some things are worth arguing about, and some arguments can never be brought to a conclusion.
I say "pick your battles."
"Arguing with you always makes me thirsty." -Augustus McRae
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: SingleShot85]
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08/08/18 01:55 AM
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I figure if someone buys a gun they can call it what they want.
Also what about the Savage 99C, Can anyone guess what that C stands for? the C most definitely does not stand for "clip".......... in no historical literature does the word clip ever show up, however the term rotary and detachable magazine show plenty. the 99 was a co-op of designs from savage and colt... just say'n clips are for hair...... Took me a while to find it but on the Savage add called "the modern classic" They say they designed the "clip to fit flush", however 99% (see what i did there) does call the clips magazines (i just threw that Clip in there to give yall some thing to feel superior about). I am off to load my clips, then i will read my magazine while sitting on the toilet.
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: unclebubba]
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08/08/18 02:52 AM
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if a clip is not a magazine then the reciever would be the magazine fed by a clip so if the reciever is the magazine then a box magazine would be a box clip since the reciever is the magazine and a a tube magazine would be a tube clip lol
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: unclebubba]
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08/11/18 01:14 AM
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I teach law in a high school and I will put a pic of a mag on the board at the first of the year and say mag or clip. 95% will say clip. I will do this several times a year and they usually only get it wrong the first time. Just trying to do my part. Ha
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: unclebubba]
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08/11/18 09:28 AM
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As you get older you"ll recognize the battles you would have jumped into in years past are really not worth the effort.
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Re: Magazine vs. Clip
[Re: Texas Dan]
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08/11/18 01:47 PM
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As you get older you"ll recognize the battles you would have jumped into in years past are really not worth the effort. Yup. The way I see it, you'd get more out of teaching the world to sing than to say magazine instead of clip. It just doesn't amount to a rat's [censored]. I'm satisfied to know and to keep it to myself until I can use it to help someone else who should know and wants to know. Waste not thy breath.
"Arguing with you always makes me thirsty." -Augustus McRae
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