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Spotlighting Axis?
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05/17/18 05:16 PM
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dkershen
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Been seeing ads on FB from an outfitter that guarantees "Trophy" Axis hunts on his high fence ranches. The way he does this is if you fail to take one from one of his blinds during the day, he just spotlights one for you after dark. I've got no problem spotighting hogs or coyotes for varmint control, but would never do it on a deer of any species, legal or not. Your thoughts? Am I drawing arbitrary lines in the sand?
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: dkershen]
#7172300
05/17/18 05:21 PM
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Herbie Hancock
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For you I can tell it's maybe more of an ethical thing for you. It doesn't bother me all too much, however I would worry more about what's behind that animal since you're hunting at night. So it may be more of the ethics of that hunter on how they look at it when it being legal hunt.
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: dkershen]
#7172307
05/17/18 05:25 PM
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Nogalus Prairie
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No, your gut is telling you hunting vs. just killing for $$. Don’t see how day vs. night could be called an “arbitrary” line in any sense when it comes to deer hunting.
It’s been pretty much been recognized as poaching under our game laws forever on WTs. For obvious reasons to anyone who knows the first thing about deer. I get it may be legal because exotics are not game animals, but anyone with an ounce of hunter’s blood wouldn’t give a damn about doing it IMO.
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: dkershen]
#7172341
05/17/18 06:06 PM
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mattyg06
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Guarantees sort of rule out the 'hunting' portion of the equation.
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: dkershen]
#7172343
05/17/18 06:07 PM
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Mr. T.
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Legal, but totally wrong to do it.
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: dkershen]
#7172360
05/17/18 06:31 PM
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Been seeing ads on FB from an outfitter that guarantees "Trophy" Axis hunts on his high fence ranches. The way he does this is if you fail to take one from one of his blinds during the day, he just spotlights one for you after dark. I've got no problem spotighting hogs or coyotes for varmint control, but would never do it on a deer of any species, legal or not. Your thoughts? Am I drawing arbitrary lines in the sand? Since they said “trophy hunt”... hell no. I wouldn’t sell hunts doing it, nor post the results. It a technique for controlling populations and gathering meat. I’ve done/helped with it, At that point I’m not looking for a hunting experience , I’m just efficiently getting meat. My same thought process when filling MLD doe tags, I’m going to use all legal means to make its as effective and efficient as possible.
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: dkershen]
#7172372
05/17/18 06:48 PM
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kwrhuntinglab
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Being that they are not a game animal and are considered exotic. I have no issue with it. You aren't breaking the law. I went a few weeks back after not having shot anything during the day. I didn't have any luck at night either. So you are guaranteed either way.
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: dkershen]
#7172379
05/17/18 06:55 PM
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TexasKC
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I wouldn't do that but I won't judge you for doing it.
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: mattyg06]
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05/17/18 08:57 PM
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JB1316
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Guarantees sort of rule out the 'hunting' portion of the equation. Ha, yea this for sure. Not so much "hunting" as being able to butcher your own meat...
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: dkershen]
#7172469
05/17/18 09:03 PM
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Halfadozen
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: dkershen]
#7172474
05/17/18 09:11 PM
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Pitchfork Predator
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Depends on what type of hunt I'm on. If it's for the meat which I love, I have no problem with it at all. If you like to trophy hunt them that way, to each his own.
The deer is just as dead shot at night as it is during the day. Same experience for the deer on their side of the equation IMO. I'm sure being shot at night sucks just as much as being shot during the day, lol.
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: dkershen]
#7172484
05/17/18 09:28 PM
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Navasot
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Its an exotic... they taste better if shot at night
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: dkershen]
#7172502
05/17/18 09:42 PM
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redchevy
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I wouldn't pay to do it and I wouldn't consider it a trophy hunt, but I got not problem with it.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
#7172504
05/17/18 09:43 PM
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redchevy
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No, your gut is telling you hunting vs. just killing for $$. Don’t see how day vs. night could be called an “arbitrary” line in any sense when it comes to deer hunting.
It’s been pretty much been recognized as poaching under our game laws forever on WTs. For obvious reasons to anyone who knows the first thing about deer. I get it may be legal because exotics are not game animals, but anyone with an ounce of hunter’s blood wouldn’t give a damn about doing it IMO. Why is it that night hunting of game animals is poaching? Night fishing isn't? I bet hunting was regulated to a day time affair due to safety issues than anything.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: dkershen]
#7172525
05/17/18 10:03 PM
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txtrophy85
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I’m not a fan of night huniting for much of anything outside of hogs/predators
If your out to get a meat doe or something, then so be it. Same thing with population control measures
No way would i ever shoot anything other than a hog or predator at night and brag about it.
Spotlighting a axis or any other trophy exotic is simply killing it, not really hunting it.
That’s how I feel about it
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: redchevy]
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05/17/18 10:09 PM
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Nogalus Prairie
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No, your gut is telling you hunting vs. just killing for $$. Don’t see how day vs. night could be called an “arbitrary” line in any sense when it comes to deer hunting.
It’s been pretty much been recognized as poaching under our game laws forever on WTs. For obvious reasons to anyone who knows the first thing about deer. I get it may be legal because exotics are not game animals, but anyone with an ounce of hunter’s blood wouldn’t give a damn about doing it IMO. Why is it that night hunting of game animals is poaching? Night fishing isn't? I bet hunting was regulated to a day time affair due to safety issues than anything. WT deer and other game animals are vulnerable and easy to kill at night with spotlights. It’s kind of a different game day vs. night. Fishing is different.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: dkershen]
#7172545
05/17/18 10:32 PM
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syncerus
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You can go to a $200/plate restaurant and have them put your dinner in a styrofoam box for you to eat with your fingers in the car, but why would you?
I don't tell others how to hunt, as long as their actions are legal; I prefer to keep the "hunt" in hunting, myself.
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: mattyg06]
#7172549
05/17/18 10:40 PM
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Opening Day
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Guarantees sort of rule out the 'hunting' portion of the equation. I concur, but honestly what difference does it make day or night. I would not but it’s my opinion. Dead is dead.
Last edited by Opening Day; 05/17/18 10:45 PM.
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: dkershen]
#7172561
05/17/18 10:54 PM
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majekman
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I’ve taken axis for at night and have no prob with it. Just after the meat. I would not however choot a trophy axis buck at night but that’s just me.
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: dkershen]
#7172572
05/17/18 11:02 PM
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skinnerback
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Shooting axis at night is fun, but not as much fun as white tail.
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: skinnerback]
#7172581
05/17/18 11:12 PM
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chital_shikari
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Shooting axis at night is fun, but not as much fun as white tail. I've night-hunted exotics multiple times. It's not as easy as you'd think. Not as hard as a day time safari style axis hunt, for sure, but not a fish-in-a-barrel either. To each his own.
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: Navasot]
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05/17/18 11:45 PM
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Its an exotic... they taste better if shot at night Why I only gig flounder at night
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: chital_shikari]
#7172657
05/18/18 12:39 AM
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txtrophy85
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Shooting axis at night is fun, but not as much fun as white tail. I've night-hunted exotics multiple times. It's not as easy as you'd think. Not as hard as a day time safari style axis hunt, for sure, but not a fish-in-a-barrel either. To each his own. Yes cause blinding an animal with a Q-beam is quite challenging It is as easy as you’d think
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: dkershen]
#7172933
05/18/18 11:24 AM
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RattlesnakeDan
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What about using Thermal/Night Vision. With the improvements in quality and price I can see those being used for night hunting non-regulated critters, especially if someone is willing to pay.
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Re: Spotlighting Axis?
[Re: RattlesnakeDan]
#7172963
05/18/18 11:51 AM
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skinnerback
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What about using Thermal/Night Vision. They are used pretty regular.
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