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Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 03:05 AM
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Mas Cabeza
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 03:08 AM
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stxranchman
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Post mature on age and to close to tell from those pics.
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 03:19 AM
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billyhunt
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For me, and I aint good on age, but he should be on ss. Im leaning on no for AR, I hunt in an AR county, and I would have to REALLY look him OVER.
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 03:20 AM
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Mas Cabeza
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I agree he is past mature. He has a floppy left ear that makes it hard to get an exact ear tip measurement. I am no pro at gauging width, but have heard that juvenile bucks ear tips will be in the 13 range, and a older mature buck will be closer to 15in at ear tips. Again I don't know or I wouldn't be asking. Him being over the hill and at or a tad beyond ear width makes us think he may be legal.
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 03:27 AM
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billyhunt
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Man I don't know, that first pic, says no to me, too close, for me to pull the trigger. But good luck on which way you choose.
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 03:41 AM
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Mas Cabeza
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I am going to consult with our local GW. I know I have heard in the past that GW's typically don't give the green light to deer like this just to keep others from thinking it's OK to shoot iffy deer. If he says he thinks it's illegal then we will just let him be coyote bait in a year or so. Thanks for the replies fellas and good luck this season
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 03:55 AM
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I would say he looks legal, but then I won't be paying the fine.
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 04:08 AM
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Post mature on age and to close to tell from those pics.
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 05:51 AM
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Boggyman
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You might try putting a 13" piece of tape on the feeder and use that to reference an accurate spread. He's definitely old.
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 12:04 PM
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I think he makes it....barely. Big ol head makes spread look smaller. JMO
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 12:19 PM
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That's a tough call, but here is something to consider. Legal is 13" and they say rule of thumb is the antlers outside the ears. Well that is close on that big old buck, he looks to have a Big ole rum head and long ears to boot. Good chance he is 13" regardless of the proximity of the antlers to the ears Good luck though, that's a lot of groceries on the hoof
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 12:27 PM
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Pitchfork Predator
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I think he makes it....barely. Big ol head makes spread look smaller. JMO
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 12:29 PM
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Dude looks to be part brahma bull.
I would say yes on legal and I would shoot him.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 01:38 PM
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 01:52 PM
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Chief Joe
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He is wide between the tines, I think he will be near 14" and maybe 6?
"It is the same boiling water that softens the rice, which hardens the egg." It's not always about the circumstances, but what you are made of....
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 02:03 PM
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Chief Joe
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[/URL] [URL=http://s129.photobucket.com/user/coreyhalbardier/media/Mobile%20Uploads/WGI_0660.jpg.html]s How long is that swirl on the feeder? Or the feeder itself?
Last edited by Chief Joe; 10/02/15 02:03 PM.
"It is the same boiling water that softens the rice, which hardens the egg." It's not always about the circumstances, but what you are made of....
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 02:47 PM
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redchevy
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I love the lazy ear, it makes me
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 02:49 PM
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In my experience, native Texas whitetail deer nose to eye measurements range from 6 3/4" to 7 1/2" depending on age and health.
My calculation: This is a very mature and healthy deer. Third picture shows a perfect broadside view of his head, it's at least 7" from the end of his nose to the front corner of his eye. Since the first two pictures have him standing in basically the same location as the third you can use the measurement from above to view the other two pictures. This puts his insides spread right at 14", i'm gonna guess it will be more like 14.5", maybe 15" since he's such a mature deer.
I personally wouldn't hesitate to harvest him based on these great photos.
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 02:57 PM
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HuntnFly67
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In my experience, native Texas whitetail deer nose to eye measurements range from 6 3/4" to 7 1/2" depending on age and health.
My calculation: This is a very mature and healthy deer. Third picture shows a perfect broadside view of his head, it's at least 7" from the end of his nose to the front corner of his eye. Since the first two pictures have him standing in basically the same location as the third you can use the measurement from above to view the other two pictures. This puts his insides spread right at 14", i'm gonna guess it will be more like 14.5", maybe 15" since he's such a mature deer.
I personally wouldn't hesitate to harvest him based on these great photos.
....and then send him to a taxidermist that can replicate that floppy ear? Is there one you would recommend?
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 06:43 PM
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With that cow head I would say legal. Just for curiosity I measured 4 different mounts on the wall and all were 14 to 15 inches to the outside of the ears, but great idea to ask the GW anyway.
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 07:44 PM
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Age and width are the same......13.5
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/02/15 11:58 PM
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MathMan
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I'd shoot him. I'd say 14". And ripe!!!
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/03/15 01:53 AM
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Slow Drifter
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That's a 15" deer judging by the first pic. Kinda' sorry to see an old war-horse like him go, but take him.
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/03/15 08:29 AM
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As old and big as he is, I wouldnt hesitate. As stated above, probably a good 14 spead, maybe a little bigger. JMO
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Re: Age this fat boy, and is he legal?
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10/03/15 03:14 PM
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He's 14 or a little more, I'd shoot him all day, and then have him on the grill!
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