I've tried all the different ammonia products to remover copper fouling but still
had copper streaks in the barrel on the bottom grooves of my rifle barreling.
I even soaked the barrel overnight with a copper removing product that didn't
work as claimed. Decided to build my own reverse electrolysis system. Worked like
a charm. Removed ALL the copper fouling.
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Note the copper on the steel rod:



My barrel came out shiny new after a 30 minute soak in the reverse electrolysis solution.

Here's a video on how to build your own system:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISB3o2qLvd4

I've always been tempted to do that, just never followed though on it. Maybe you've given me just enough inspiration to do it.

May have to try this. Ive been cleaning on a Finnish 91 and it gets better every time I soak and clean but never really clean.

reverse electrolysis barrel cleaning systems work and do it with less effort than all other methods I have tried

Very nice. I can see from the pictures that your technique is evolving since the video. I may try this some time.

and I am ok with that

but is it needed?

That video was something I just found on Youtube. It's not mine. But the pics are from my shop setup.
I must point out it's important to attach the negative lead to the steel rod and positive lead to the
barrel. This allows the flow of electricity to go from the barrel to the steel rod. I have seen some videos
on Youtube where they set up the opposite electric flow and this will not remove the copper.

I used it to clean collectable carpenter tools many yrs ago, the draw back that I found was that the metal rust would set it in if you let the metal unprotected.

Just curious, why would you want to remove all the copper from a barrel?

My thoughts as well.

http://www.texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2694284/1

For the same reason he gave you before....Is this gonna get re-hashed?

So, if he's already posted this before, and got answers, why are we posting this again. It makes real good sense to me!

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Last time he was looking into it and asked for thoughts. This time he is just posting it, perhaps to give others some info.

I thought Ground Hog Day was a great movie! I think Bill Murray should get an Oscar! LMAO!

Y'all are a friendly bunch, ain't ya?

sometimes the best friends you have will tell you your wrong.

he's wrong.

Posted again cause I just cleaned out the barrel again since the last post on this topic.
I was happy with the results that I had to share again.
Sorry for the re-post to those who seem offended by that. I'm not going to debate again with all the haters out there.
If any of you out there in THF subscribe to Field & Stream magazine...checkout my
letter to gun editor David Petzal asking him about cleaning out your rifle barrel in
the December issue. I think he answers your question Chad, Dave, and Fireman..My letter was from Keller, TX. Bill.

LOL...ain't that the truth. Shorthair and I pheasant hunted
a few years back and he told me he stopped posting on THF
because of all the "friendly" responses.
For me..."honey badger don't care" attitude works best.

Your rifle, your business. I'm not passing judgment.

I read Petzel often. Yes, he is very experienced and very knowledgeable, however I've entertained sending him an e-mail or letter refuting some things he wrote. He too, is wrong several times a year. I've been tempted to ask him when he would be in Texas again, and invite him out so I could prove it.

Chad, Dave and I will get awfully upset if someone removed all of the copper from our barrels. Remove carbon, sure, but not the copper. I hate brand new, clean barrels, they don't shoot as well. My cleaning regime for my 260 Rem is every 400 rounds, and it's just to remove carbon. After that it'll take 20 rounds before it starts shooting its best again.

Again, your rifle, your business. I was just curious as to why you were doing this.

Agreed...my rifle, my business. I get tighter groupings with a clean barrel and
reloads to answer your question. The electrolysis removes the carbon fouling also.
On some of my rifles that sat in the gun safe with copper fouling I've noted the
copper has oxidized and turn a slight green color in the barrel grooves (is that a good thing? IDK).
I don't remove the copper after every shooting event....I do a general barrel cleaning as we all do with
brushes, patches, and oil. This was only the second time I've done reverse electrolysis after I noted the copper streaks in the barrel. I did a re-post only to inform, however, I see some THF'ers don't agree and that's fine by me. Regarding Dave Petzal....I think the man is well qualified to give his opinion on rifles due to his background and experiences. As for him being wrong on a subject......maybe so...but who am I to pass judgement on his experience.

If all rifle barrels were cut rifled, air gauged, hand lapped, etc. etc, then there might be a universal outlook metal fouling isn't a problem. It shouldn't be so hard to understand that all barrels are not created equal, and some barrels will accumulate enough metal fouling to degrade accuracy. I dunno though...maybe all of us who have shot Partitions out of sporter weight rifles using scopes with conventional reticles at animals less than 500 yards away for decades just don't know a damned thing.

No sir, you know a ton. Just leaning on what has happened to me. Again, I was just curious as to why this is needed. I've got several plain vanilla barrels that I don't remove copper from either. To each their own.

Believe what you like about your own rifles and treat them accordingly, they're yours and you should know. Have a little respect the rest of us...lots of us have rifles which we know need a good cleaning a little more frequently. You come in here runnin your yap like you're PO Ackley, Carlos Hathcock, and Elmer Keith all rolled up in one and it gets really old.

Wow!

Aggressive attitudes do as well.