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Re: 7mm Backcountry
[Re: J.G.]
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02/01/25 01:21 AM
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Well, “Big” is subjective, but I don’t disagree with you. Still, who among us wants a steel cased long action cartridge that I suppose is not reloadable (though I don’t know it’s not reloadable). I suppose it’ll appeal to those folks that don’t chase accuracy and don’t reload, and just buy a box of ammo per season. But, here I am yapping about something I know little about right now.
Maybe the real benefit might be in military applications. Would a high pressure 223 or 308 get any real performance bump at 80k psi? Enough to keep them in use?
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
[Re: J.G.]
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02/01/25 01:35 AM
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Not to be insufferably cynical, but 90% of big game hunters shoot whitetail at 75-80 yards, so this “breakthrough” is of no real benefit, especially considering the cost. At best, it’s for the Ricky Bobby crowd, or maybe for that guy who wants a suppressor friendly short barrel and maximum velocity. This is marketing hype at its finest. Since you've got blinders on. Whitetail are not "Big Game". And there's a whole, large segment of the population that hunt everything else beside Whitetail deer. They actually hunt Big Game. And they do, do it at extended ranges. LOL...... Not sure about 75-80 yards but syncerus pretty much nailed it. I've always read that 95% of game animals are killed under 200yds and I'd say it's at least that many, maybe more. Usually animals such as upland birds (pheasants, quail, grouse, turkeys), waterfowl (geese, ducks), upland game (rabbits, squirrels), and furbearers (raccoons, coyotes) are considered small game. State hunting organizations classify deer, elk, moose, caribou, pronghorn antelope, bighorn sheep, wild boar, and other more exotic animals (such as musk ox, mountain goat, buffalo, bears, mountain lions, and even alligators) as big game. https://tpwd.texas.gov/education/hunter-education/online-course/wildlife-conservation/game-animalsThe Texas white-tailed deer, Odocoileus virginianus texana, occurs almost statewide. The white-tailed deer is now the most numerous big game animal in Texas and in the United States.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
[Re: scottfromdallas]
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02/01/25 02:44 AM
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The big difference between running the short barrel 28 Nosler and the Backcountry is 30gr less powder in the Backcountry. Less recoil and muzzle blast with same velocity.
After playing with one for a few range trips I am not convinced this technology is the greatest thing since sliced bread and canned beer but it may have a niche in the hunting community. Military applications I could see this becoming the norm.
"Anyone taking up handloading necessarily plays with unknown factors and takes chances. But so does anyone who drives a car,goes to a cocktail party,eats in a restaurant,or gets married."
Jack O'Connor 1963
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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02/01/25 01:16 PM
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Give me a 6mm 16” barrel sending 115DTAC 3400-3500 a second and I’d be content. That would be a glorious sub all in 7lb rifle that basically a 10mph gun for a longgggggg ways
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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02/01/25 04:58 PM
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Give me a 6mm 16” barrel sending 115DTAC 3400-3500 a second and I’d be content. That would be a glorious sub all in 7lb rifle that basically a 10mph gun for a longgggggg ways
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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02/01/25 06:28 PM
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The big difference between running the short barrel 28 Nosler and the Backcountry is 30gr less powder in the Backcountry. Less recoil and muzzle blast with same velocity.
After playing with one for a few range trips I am not convinced this technology is the greatest thing since sliced bread and canned beer but it may have a niche in the hunting community. Military applications I could see this becoming the norm.
Technology's great, advancement is cool, all that...but over the last twenty years the mental image I have of the guns & shooting market has resolved into one of a bunch of guys wearing track shoes on chasing a semi pulling a trailer down I-20 with "Acme Gun Co." on the side of it, with a wallet in one hand and a checkbook in the other. The world has changed a lot since 1980---for better in some ways and for worse in others.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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02/02/25 02:54 PM
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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02/02/25 03:32 PM
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