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Cottonseed, Pellets, whats your opinion?
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01/09/05 08:12 AM
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I have been trying to locate a cottonseed dealer, but have not been able to find one. I have also been looking into the alfalfa hay, pellets, or anything else anyone has used. Just enjoy hearing the suggestions, but was really wondering about the cottonseed. Just heard a lot about it from some ranches in S. Texas.
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Re: Cottonseed, Pellets, whats your opinion?
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01/09/05 01:02 PM
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If your lease is in the Carta Valley-Rocksprings area, your best bet might be cotton gins in the St. Lawrence-Midkiff area. This is South of Midland. They are good feed but manuel labor to handle unless you have loaders etc. availible.
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Re: Cottonseed, Pellets, whats your opinion?
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01/11/05 02:23 AM
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You wouldn't have any idea on a company name or phone number would you. That has been my biggest problem. I can't find a contact number for anyone.
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Re: Cottonseed, Pellets, whats your opinion?
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01/11/05 02:37 AM
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Midkiff co-op Gin or St. Lawrence co-op gin ought to get you a number and some info.
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Re: Cottonseed, Pellets, whats your opinion?
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01/12/05 08:28 PM
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We use roasted soybeans. You can mix it with corn in your feeder.
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Re: Cottonseed, Pellets, whats your opinion?
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01/13/05 01:39 AM
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For the past 2 years we have been using what is labeled Deer Ration or Antler Ration or something like that. We get it at Dillard Feed & Seed in Weatherford. It is $7.95 a 50, and it is a mix of soybean and corn. Works really good, when they hain't so many stinkin acorns.
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Re: Cottonseed, Pellets, whats your opinion?
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01/20/05 12:40 AM
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CONTACT THE FEED/DEER STORE IN COMANCHE TEXAS FOR ANY FEED/ATTRACTANTS YOU MAY BE LOOKING FOR INCLUDEING DEER-COCAINE AND HOG WILD,ALSO HAVE SOYBEANS AND COTTON SEED.ASK FOR JERRY(DAT BE ME)THE OWNER.325 356 1944.WE WORK WITH THE HUNTER/LANDOWNER/WILDLIFE BIOLOGIST.FYI COTTONSEED,ABOUT 39% PROTEIN IS NEITHER A GOOD DEER ATTRACTANT AND IS A HERENDOUS PROTEIN SUPPLEMENT DUE TO LACK OF FIBER AND MUCH TO HIGH A PROTEIN LEVEL.
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Re: Cottonseed, Pellets, whats your opinion?
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01/20/05 12:45 PM
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Wow, really. I had heard just opposite. I was about to go pick up 2000 LBS in Lockhart. Maybe not now. Anyone else want to chime in? Can you just throw it on the ground in a feeder pin or will it spoil? Cotton seed that is. At 90 a 1000 it is cheaper than pellets but if it doesn't work I don't want to throw good money after bad feed. Let me hear some pros and cons. Thanks.
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Re: Cottonseed, Pellets, whats your opinion?
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01/21/05 03:22 AM
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I have an article that Smallgauge sent me from a Texas A+M researcher that states the opposite. He stated that it is very good. If you email me at willwreck@aol.com, I will forward it to you. If you haven't seen my other post, I think it is on the Deer Hunting Forum, and Smallgauge hooked me up with the Lockhart Gin. I bought a sack from them last Friday and the guy there, Buddy Hawkins, is very nice. It was an easy pick up and I had no problems at all. Just FYI, I hunted in Del Rio last year and we used Cottonseed. They were feeding it a year before I arrived, but the deer seemed to love it. As soon as we refilled the feeding troughs, the deer flocked to it. It was not uncommon to get several pics of 130-140 class deer at one time on the trail camera overlooking the troughs. Seemed to work really well. There are some other articles that I will try to find, but cannot remember at this time where they were at. Hope this helps, if you need anything else let me know. Sean Wilchek
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Re: Cottonseed, Pellets, whats your opinion?
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01/21/05 03:08 PM
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Sean, check your mail. Can you feed this open air or do you need a cover/roof over the trough. How easy does it spoil? I was told second hand that the only way to effectively feed it was to put it out daily. Is this that you got seed or meal or a mixture. Thanks.
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Re: Cottonseed, Pellets, whats your opinion?
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01/21/05 03:43 PM
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Cheky, for some reason the e-mail I sent you came back undeliverable. Send me info to teamredneck01@hotmail.comThanks, I found the # to Lockhart gin.
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Re: Cottonseed, Pellets, whats your opinion?
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01/21/05 07:03 PM
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I will email you then. Thanks for telling me. Sometimes this happens to my email, but I do not know why.
The experience that I have had is feeding it in an open air trough. I am sure that you want to feed it as much as possible, as you do all supplements, but I am going to make two more troughs to put out there to give me enough feed for a while.
At the lease I was on last year, where I had the experience using it, I think the guy got a 12 ton delivery which was dumped on the property inside a fenced area with no roof. The only spoilage I observed when I was shoveling it up was some blackness on the bottom of the mound. That was from May until January. Never saw any other spoilage. Some of this so called spoilage was scooped up, was put in the troughs with the good stuff, but was still eaten. The troughs would be clean as a whistle. Therefore, I believe the spoilage is very minimal as I have been told and have read in other articles by researchers who also state that the spoilage is minimal. A GOOD THING!
If your talking about the stuff I got from Lockhart, it is whole cottonseed. Like a little fuzzy pellet. Very easy to work with and I am looking forward to the results. I will email you with the other info.
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Re: Cottonseed, Pellets, whats your opinion?
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01/21/05 08:06 PM
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Got your e-mails ok, still couldn't reply! Thanks, I printed the A&M info, I will be heading to Lockhart in a week or so. Man now that was some HAWG. WOW.
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Re: Cottonseed, Pellets, whats your opinion?
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01/22/05 03:45 AM
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Well at least you got them. I guess the report came out ok. Is that any different than what you have heard. I thought it was a pretty good article.
The article has a different opinion about the fiber content than jparrish had and it doesn't show the protein as high, but still very good compared to the pellets.
Just curious since you were going to hit the Lockhart Gin about where are you hunting at?
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Re: Cottonseed, Pellets, whats your opinion?
[Re: Cheky]
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01/24/05 09:29 PM
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The report you sent was similar in comparison to what I had been told. I hunt in Nemo but no one around here sales in that small of a quantity. I thought about picking some up in Lubbock while visiting my daughter but according to the A&M report there are 2 different seeds and one is better and that is the one they have in Lockhart, the one in Lubbock is a drought hardy type seed and is not as good as the one in Lockhart for a supplement. I don't have the report in front of me and can't remember the correct terminology. Thanks again for the info. I like facts over opinions. True it may take them a little getting used to or acustomed to the taste but with time it looks like they will beat a path to it. It is interesting, learned a little, feed a supplement that will stay in the rumen longer and they will benefit more from it as per the cotton seed. It has a hard shell and what doesn't get chewed well enough to digest they regurgitate (spelling?) and chew in there cud like a cow and send back through the rumen. So even though the deer has eaten it's fill it will continue to eat and reprocess untill it has completely digested all the seed therefore benefitting more of the process unlike your granular feeds like corn and pellets that will sit in the rumen a short time then all be processed through the stomach, a little waste there.
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Re: Cottonseed, Pellets, whats your opinion?
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01/24/05 10:35 PM
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Just glad I could help a little. Let me know when you put some out and how things go in the future. I have added you to my PM list because I am sure the results will not be until this post is pushed off the page. I will keep in touch.
Sean
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Re: Cottonseed, Pellets, whats your opinion?
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01/25/05 09:05 PM
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If you get some cottonseed hulls, they won't sit in the trough long enough to spoil. Also because of the high protein the deer won't eat as much of it at one sitting. Just like cattle won't stand at the liquid feed trough very long before looking for some dey grass to balance their diet out. Cottonseed is very rich! One way to feed it is fencing off the sides of the trough with chicken wire and making the deer pull a little out at a time. This also keeps them from gorging themselves on it. If you are ever in the Weimer area, you can buy it there. M-G Inc. 1201 County Rd. (979)725-8581. One thing is for sure, if you shoot a deer that has been gorging himself on high protein supplements, it shouldn't be hard to track him down!
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