Where are you guys hunting that deer eat grass? It's always been my opinion that deer do not eat grass unless nothing else is available. They eat woody browse and certain weeds. And Roundup has no residual effect. It systemic, which means it only works in direct contact.

It may be a little cold for rd up, i think it works better in warmer weather, but give it a shot

You must not watch deer as much as you think, if you don't think deer eat burmuda.

I kill Bermuda grass with a Bermuda Gun.......

Deer prefer Rye grass.

Have done it...respectfully disagree

Well I live on a ranch and see deer daily, also studied wildlife management in college.

They are not eating the burmuda, they are eatin the small forbes, clover that are growing close to the ground in the bermuda. People just assume they are eating the bermuda, but they are not.

You can put a deer in a pen with the thickest, most lush stand of bermuda in the world, but if there is nothing else to eat in there the deer will eventually starve to death. Not near enough protein.

Bill

I also live on a ranch and I know what I have seen. Where they eat the bermuda there are no little forbes in it. I guess they will also starve to death eating oats and rye grass?

Oats/rye/wheat and bermuda are two very different grasses.

I wasn't saying deer will NEVER eat bermuda, but it is a last choice for them. And if they are eating bermuda they are eating the young shoots at the very bottom of the plant.

Have you ever noticed how deer actually prefer oats/wheat when it is just sprouting and is fresh sprouts rather than when its taller and ranker.

They will eat it either time, but I've had fields that for weather reasons were planted several weeks apart. When the younger field bagan sprouting and coming up the you would suddenly see almost no deer in the mature field but the new field would be covereed up.

Bill

That grass is worth money. Perhaps a sod company would be interested come spring.

deer will eat some bermuda for digestive purpose's but very little

ask your wife to water it when you go out of town for a week. hard to keep your grass alive in odessa, to dang dry.

This reply is right on the money. Bermuda is tough to kill and its going to take time, typical of a none native species (think feral hogs). I've been recovering improved pastures back to native and it is a long slow process. I can accelerate food plots because of the size but it still takes two to three years to eliminate it.

Improved pastures are one of the key ingredients of the land fragmentation mix that is cutting up our deer hunting country in this State. Land gets busted up, people want to maintain the Ag exemption but don't have enough country to run livestock on native country. They plant and destroy the habitat. On any whitetail deer food list, bermuda is next to dirt. It offers deer nothing of value. It cannot be compared to oats or ryegrass as they are completely different species, not the same genus. Kind of like saying a whitetail is the same critter as a moose.

There are 10 to 15 species of grasses depending on which list you look at but bermuda, oats, and ryegrass all fall into three different specific species Cynodon, Lolium, and Avena respectfully. No comparison between each other than they are Poaceaes (grasses).

On my food plots, I've become very pleased with the results of one method of eliminating grass because it also helps retain any moisture from rain.

In the spring, I let the grass grow to it's maximum height and then shred it extremely close to the ground. This stresses the grass. I then spray it with any Glyphosate, I prefer High Yield KillzAll or Eraser over Roundup because of the cost in my area. I let the field sit until I see the grass die and then moldboard it. I do not condition the field (disc or any other manipulation) but I do spray it with the glyphosate whenever grass growth reaches about 4" to 6". The plowed field absorbs every drop of rain throughout the year.

I think moldboarding is more effective over discing in that it digs down 6" to 8" and flips that soil to the surface exposing the soils content to the elements. Discing simply reorganizes the the depth, it doesn't invert it. Depending on disc angle, it can simply cut and stimulate the grass roots.

The next spring, I start the process over with moldboarding. When grass doesn't grow, the field is usable for food plots.

ill send my cows to eat it

Plowing bermuda will make it spread and have better roots... that's what we do to get it to spread in pastures or baseball fields (different strands).

Two doses of roundup during the heat about two weeks apart will kill it, but mix it as it says... most people over do it and it doesn't kill as well as it should. Roundup is designed to kill over time, not instantly, but will get a better kill...