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Here is the analysis tag from the high Ph mineral that the deer seem to really like.
Adios,
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Here is the analysis tag from the high Ph mineral that the deer seem to really like.
Adios,
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Thanks Gary for posting

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Interesting Gary when I googled Ragland Mills, it says they are in Paris Texas. Same logo...

Called them, they have a location in Paris. Had to call the MO number. The sales guy is calling back about where these blocks are stocked in DFW.

Thanks !

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Originally Posted by 4Weight
Interesting Gary when I googled Ragland Mills, it says they are in Paris Texas. Same logo...

Called them, they have a location in Paris. Had to call the MO number. The sales guy is calling back about where these blocks are stocked in DFW.

Thanks !

Please share the info when you get it.



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I will try to take photos of the two blocks that I have on the river if I get there before dark. As I said earlier, I put them out last week on Thursday evening. I hope this mineral helps you as much as I feel it helped my deer here in Menard County as well as Terrell County. The good thing is, it won't cost much to try. I wish that I would have had it out about a month ago.
Adios,
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Interesting Gary when I googled Ragland Mills, it says they are in Paris Texas. Same logo...

Called them, they have a location in Paris. Had to call the MO number. The sales guy is calling back about where these blocks are stocked in DFW.

Thanks !

Please share the info when you get it.


Will do Jimbo

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So what’s the difference between it and any other 12-12 block or 12-12-12 block?

12 is just percentage of phosphorus, calcium and salt?


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Sales Mgr called me back. He is going to FU with me on any stocking locations in DFW. He mentioned the 2 12-12 blocks and said there was a difference but I did not ask him what. I will when he calls me back and will share.

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I am not familiar with the one being made by West Feeds so it will be interesting to know what the difference is. Thanks 4Weight!
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I just went by the store in Kerrville to pick up 3 of the blocks. Good thing I was watching. They gave me one and the other 2 only had 4 % phosphorus. I told the guy this is not what I bought. He said it was the same just different packaging. I told him BS. I got hold of the boss and told him and finally got my money back for the other 2.

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Originally Posted by don k
I just went by the store in Kerrville to pick up 3 of the blocks. Good thing I was watching. They gave me one and the other 2 only had 4 % phosphorus. I told the guy this is not what I bought. He said it was the same just different packaging. I told him BS. I got hold of the boss and told him and finally got my money back for the other 2.


Yeah, there's a reason he's working the dock at a feed store.


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Correct Don! The only reason to purchase the blocks is to get the high P. They had 12 last Thursday and I picked up 4 so I bet they are running low. This is good for everyone to watch for...
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I'll see if they are around my location. Thanks.

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I checked on my two feeding locations on the river yesterday and they are still getting quite a bit of activity. I meant to take photos of the blocks but forgot my phone. If I make it out there today, I will try to remember to take photos. I am guessing that the deer have consumed 4-5 lbs from each block and the blocks are about 250 yards apart. This means that they have eaten at least 8 pounds in 5 days. So far, the hogs have not found them; as I stated earlier, these blocks are much harder than your average protein block.
Adios,
Gary

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Are you sure that the high selenium content will be good for the deer? Too much selenium may get a deer sick. The package says "Do not feed to goats." I know that selenium is the ingredient that promotes antler growth. Just asking.

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Are you sure that the high selenium content will be good for the deer? Too much selenium may get a deer sick. The package says "Do not feed to goats." I know that selenium is the ingredient that promotes antler growth. Just asking.


Do not feed to sheep. Goats around here need more selenium.

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Are you sure that the high selenium content will be good for the deer? Too much selenium may get a deer sick. The package says "Do not feed to goats." I know that selenium is the ingredient that promotes antler growth. Just asking.


Do not feed to sheep. Goats around here need more selenium.

The label says, do not feed to Sheep. It is fine for goats and goats are more closely akin to deer as they are browsers. I doubt that selenium is very good for hogs either.
Adios,
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This is a photo of one of the blocks taken yesterday evening. The other block is showing about the same amount of consumption. I put them in the field last Thursday evening.
I visited with Brandon Burch with Compton Warehouse here in Menard this morning. He said that he should have blocks in next week.
Adios,
Gary

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Originally Posted by gary roberson
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This is a photo of one of the blocks taken yesterday evening. The other block is showing about the same amount of consumption. I put them in the field last Thursday evening.
I visited with Brandon Burch with Compton Warehouse here in Menard this morning. He said that he should have blocks in next week.
Adios,
Gary


Thanks Gary! I will stop in to Compton's next weekend.

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Okay guys I just got off a 15-20 minute conversation with Dwight at Ragland. There is not a ton of difference between the 12-12 and the 12-12-12. The last 12 is the percentage of salt in the block. In the 12-12 Elite, the salt content is 10.5. Golden Oak out of DeLeon stock the blocks and Dillard's Feed Store in Weatherford buys from Golden Oak. When we hung up, Dwight was going to call Dillard's about our conversation and I pointed him to THF so he could see the conversations between us.

One of the key benefits to these blocks is they aid livestock and wildlife in reproduction. That can't be anything but a good thing for deer too. We discussed soils and I told him my place out in Throckmorton county was mainly red clay and Dwight did not think there was very much PH in that soil either so the blocks may be well received by the deer out my way.

That covers most of our conversation, really good guy. Any more questions, let me know or I can put you in touch with Dwight.

4W

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Originally Posted by 4Weight
Okay guys I just got off a 15-20 minute conversation with Dwight at Ragland. There is not a ton of difference between the 12-12 and the 12-12-12. The last 12 is the percentage of salt in the block. In the 12-12 Elite, the salt content is 10.5. Golden Oak out of DeLeon stock the blocks and Dillard's Feed Store in Weatherford buys from Golden Oak. When we hung up, Dwight was going to call Dillard's about our conversation and I pointed him to THF so he could see the conversations between us.

One of the key benefits to these blocks is they aid livestock and wildlife in reproduction. That can't be anything but a good thing for deer too. We discussed soils and I told him my place out in Throckmorton county was mainly red clay and Dwight did not think there was very much PH in that soil either so the blocks may be well received by the deer out my way.

That covers most of our conversation, really good guy. Any more questions, let me know or I can put you in touch with Dwight.

4W

Appreciate the follow up.



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Thanks for all the help 4 W! I noticed that the Axis have moved one of the blocks about 5 yards downhill from where it started. Consumption has not slowed as far as I can tell.
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Gary, One of the things I learned some 65 years ago in ag class was each each animal species has their own body requirements where minerals are concernd. To this day, my cattle get one mineral, deer get another. I put out a free choice supplement for free range deer that was developed by Lyssy & Eckel just for deer. I was wondering why you used a cattle mineral?

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Originally Posted by Frio Town
Gary, One of the things I learned some 65 years ago in ag class was each each animal species has their own body requirements where minerals are concernd. To this day, my cattle get one mineral, deer get another. I put out a free choice supplement for free range deer that was developed by Lyssy & Eckel just for deer. I was wondering why you used a cattle mineral?

Frio

I have found through the years that food products labeled specifically for "deer" are priced higher and the formulas are basically the same. Up here, my goal is to increase the P intake with the mineral and I think that this 12-12 livestock mineral will do that. There's no doubt that Lyssy & Eckels make a great deer feed and supplement.
By the way, I stopped at the cemetery at Frio Town the other day to see if any of my relatives were buried there. As a kid, we used to swap Polled Herefords bulls with the Saunders Family at Frio Town.
Adios,
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