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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jeffrey-epstein-list-names-b2489252.html

Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton are among the more than 100 people named in newly-published legal documents linked to the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

The disclosure of the first batch of court files include the names of victims, friends and associates of the sex offender and Ghislaine Maxwell – although many others will have no direct link to Epstein.

The millionaire financier, who socialised with royalty and celebrities, was accused of running a large network of underage girls for sex. While awaiting trial, he killed himself in his jail cell in 2019.

The legal documents relate to a defamation lawsuit brought against Maxwell in 2015 and were published under a judge’s order on Wednesday.

A second tranche of documents released on Thursday evening did not shed much new light on the case, and included many of the names previously made public. Further documents unsealed on Friday are currently being reviewed by The Independent.

Being named in these documents does not indicate any wrongdoing related to Epstein or anyone else. The list includes many of Epstein’s accusers and alleged victims, as well as people with only tangential connections to Epstein who were pulled into the lawsuit against Maxwell.

Prince Andrew appears prominently, with the documents mentioning a previously reported accusation that he groped Johanna Sjoberg (which he denies). Former US presidents Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are also named, with neither accused of wrongdoing.

Judges, court staff and legal represenatives are not included.

Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein’s former girlfriend, convicted in 2021 of sex trafficking in connection to Epstein’s activities
Prince Andrew, Duke of York, second son of Queen Elizabeth II of Great Britain. Brother of King Charles III
Bill Clinton, former US president
Donald Trump, businessman and former US president
Hillary Clinton, former first lady to Bill Clinton, US secretary of state under Barack Obama, and US presidential candidate
David Copperfield, American stage magician
John Connelly, New York police detective turned investigative journalist who investigated Epstein
Alan Dershowitz, prolific lawyer and media pundit who represented Epstein in 2006
Leonardo DiCaprio, actor and film producer famous for his roles in Titanic and Inception
Al Gore, former US vice president under Bill Clinton
Richard Branson, British billionaire and business magnate, founder of the Virgin Group
Stephen Hawking, British physicist and science author
Ehud Barak, former Israeli prime minister
Michael Jackson, famed musician known as the “King of Pop”
Marvin Minksy, artificial intelligence pioneer
Kevin Spacey, actor known for his roles in Se7en and House of Cards, found not guilty of sexual assault in 2023
George Lucas, American film director and creator of the Star Wars saga
Jean Luc Brunel, French model agency boss and alleged Epstein co-conspirator who died in an apparent suicide while awaiting trial
Cate Blanchett, Australian actor who starred in The Lord of the Rings and Tár
Naomi Campbell, British model
Heidi Klum, German-US model
Sharon Churcher, British journalist
Bruce Willis, actor famous for his roles in Die Hard and The Sixth Sense
Bianca Jagger, activist and wife of The Rolling Stones frontman, Sir Mick Jagger
Bill Richardson, former governor of New Mexico
Cameron Diaz, actor who starred in Shrek and There’s Something About Mary
Glenn Dubin, an American hedge fund manager who was allegedly friends with Epstein
Eva Andersson-Dubin, former Miss Sweden and wife of Glenn Dubin, who once dated Epstein
Noam Chomsky, linguist and political philosopher
Tom Pritzker, American tycoon and philanthropist
Chris Tucker, American comedian and actor known for his role in the Rush Hour films
Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York, former wife of Prince Andrew
Robert F Kennedy Jr, American politician and conspiracy theorist
James Michael Austrich
Juan and Maria Alessi, husband and wife working at Epstein’s home in Florida
Janusz Banasiak, served as Epstein’s Palm Beach house manager
Bella Klein or Klen (documents differ), a former accountant in Epstein’s New York office
Leslie or Lesley Groff (documents differ), Epstein’s former secretary, who was named as a co-conspirator in his 2008 plea deal but reportedly will not be charged
Victoria Bean
Rebecca Boylan
Dana Burns
Ron Eppinger, sex trafficker
Daniel Estes
Annie Farmer, accused Epstein of sexual assault
Maria Farmer, Annie Farmer’s sister, who also accused Epstein of sexual assault
Anouska De Georgiou, a model who accused Epstein of rape
Louis Freeh, former director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
Frédéric Fekkai, celebrity hairstylist
Alexandra Fekkai, son of celebrity hairstylist
Jo Jo Fontanella, Epstein’s butler
Doug Band, longtime Bill Clinton aide who says he urged Mr Clinton to cut ties with Epstein
Virginia Giuffre, formerly known as Virginia Roberts, accused Prince Andrew of sexual assault
Lynn Miller, mother of Virginia Giuffre
Crystal Figueroa, sister of Anthony Figueroa, who dated Virginia Giuffre in the early 2000s
Anthony Figueroa, Virginia Robert’s former boyfriend
Eric Gany
Meg Garvin, represented Virginia Giuffre
Sheridan Gibson-Butte,
Ross Gow, Maxwell’s press agent
Fred Graff
Robert Giuffre
Philip Guderyon
Alexandra Hall
Joanna Harrison
Shannon Harrison
Victoria Hazel
Brittany Henderson
Brett Jaffe
Forest Jones
Sarah Kellen, Epstein’s former assistant, named as an unindicted co-conspirator in his 2008 plea deal
Adriana Ross, Epstein’s former assistant, named as an unindicted co-conspirator in his 2008 plea deal
Carol Kess
Dr Steven Olson
Stephen Kaufmann
Wendy Leigh, author
Peter Listerman
Tom Lyons
Nadia Marcinkova, alleged friend of Epstein’s, named as an unindicted co-conspirator in his 2008 plea deal
Bob Meister
Jamie Melanson
Donald Morrell
David Mullen
David Norr
Joe Pagano
May Paluga
Stanley Pottinger
Detective Joe Recarey, former Palm Beach police officer who investigated reports of sexual abuse against children by Epstein
Chief Michael Reiter, responsible for investigation of sexual abuse against children by Epstein
Rinaldo and Debra Rizzo, husband and wife who worked for Epstein’s alleged friend Glenn Dubin
Sky Roberts
Kimblerley Roberts
Lynn Roberts
Haley Robson, named as a “teen recruiter” for Epstein in police documents
Dave Rodgers, private jet pilot for Epstein
Alfredo Rodriquez, butler at Epstein’s Florida home
Scott Rothinson
Forest Sawyer
Dough Schoetlle,investigator
Johanna Sjoberg, claims she was sexually abused while underage by Epstein. Also claimed Prince Andrew touched her breast
Cecilia Stein
Marianne Strong
Mark Tafoya
Emmy Taylor, Maxwell’s ex-personal assistant
Brent Tindall
Kevin Thompson
Ed Tuttle
Les Wexner, founder of L Brands and a former business partner of Epstein
Abigail Wexner, wife of Les Wexner
Cresenda Valdes
Emma Vaghan
Anthony Valladares
Christina Venero, licensed massage therapist
Maritza Vazquez
Vicky Ward, investigative journalist and author who claims she was blocked from covering Epstein’s misdeeds while working at Vanity Fair
Jarred Weisfield
Sharon White
Courtney Wild
Daniel Wilson
Mark Zeff, New York decorator
Kelly Spamm, unknown person listed as flying on Epstein’s private jet
Alexandra Dixon, unknown person listed in Epstein’s ‘little black book’
Alfredo Rodriguez, Epstein’s former household manager, jailed in 2012 for hiding and trying to sell Epstein’s ‘black book’
Ricardo Legorreta, Mexican designer listed as a passenger on Epstein’s private jet
Dr Chris Donahue, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre, included on a list of all her previous medical providers requested by Maxwell’s defence team
Dr Wah Wah, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre
Judith Lightfoot, psychologist who treated Virginia Giuffre
Dr Karen Kutikoff, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre
Dr Carol Hayek, psychiatrist who treated Virginia Giuffre
Dr John Harris, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre
Dr Darshanee Majaliyana, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre
Dr John Harris, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre
Dr Mona Devansean, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre
Dr Scott Robert Geiger, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre
Dr Michele Streeter, physician who treated Virginia Giuffre
Donna Oliver, physician assistant who treated Virginia Giuffre
This story is still developing, and will be updated regularly as The Independent learns more.


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So what do they do now?


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Donald never fornicated with any of this. That is their problem to figure out


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Originally Posted by Bee'z
Donald never fornicated with any of this. That is their problem to figure out


He not into kids - only porn stars.


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I don’t even know what the Epstein list even means. Epstein was rich pedo with an island. Do these list link people to wrongdoing or just connected to him in some way.

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I don’t even know what the Epstein list even means. Epstein was rich pedo with an island. Do these list link people to wrongdoing or just connected to him in some way.


“Being named in these documents does not indicate any wrongdoing related to Epstein or anyone else. The list includes many of Epstein’s accusers and alleged victims, as well as people with only tangential connections to Epstein who were pulled into the lawsuit against Maxwell.“

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That list been around a few years.

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Why are these people not listed confused2 "Judges, court staff and legal representatives are not included."


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Epstein Island is like the Hollywood "interviewing couch"
Many have been there, but no one will ever admit to having sex there


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Originally Posted by Bee'z
Donald never fornicated with any of this. That is their problem to figure out


Bee'z, did you work on the island? If not, just how close are you with the president? Crazy that you have the inside scoop.

As someone stated earlier, just being on the list doesn't mean you were one of the transgressors. But that being said, I won't be surprised to find out that anyone on that list is guilty.

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Originally Posted by DonPablo
Originally Posted by Bee'z
Donald never fornicated with any of this. That is their problem to figure out


Bee'z, did you work on the island? If not, just how close are you with the president? Crazy that you have the inside scoop.

As someone stated earlier, just being on the list doesn't mean you were one of the transgressors. But that being said, I won't be surprised to find out that anyone on that list is guilty.


Oh there are guilty ones for sure, but maybe not on that list. Or Jeffery would still be around to tell us that.


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Originally Posted by DonPablo
Originally Posted by Bee'z
Donald never fornicated with any of this. That is their problem to figure out


Bee'z, did you work on the island? If not, just how close are you with the president? Crazy that you have the inside scoop.

As someone stated earlier, just being on the list doesn't mean you were one of the transgressors. But that being said, I won't be surprised to find out that anyone on that list is guilty.


Sounds like you spent some time under clintons desk. I just said he was not involved based on things I know lol


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Originally Posted by Bee'z
Sounds like you spent some time under clintons desk. I just said he was not involved based on things I know lol


No need to get butt-hurt. If you've got inside information, spill it. I would be glad to learn of evidence that would prove Donnie Boy's innocence. Until then, I'll trust the rich and powerful as far as I can throw them.

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Originally Posted by Hirogen
Originally Posted by Bee'z
Donald never fornicated with any of this. That is their problem to figure out


He not into kids - only porn stars.



If you listen and are indoctrinated by the left-wing media...

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Sounds like you spent some time under clintons desk. I just said he was not involved based on things I know lol


No need to get butt-hurt. If you've got inside information, spill it. I would be glad to learn of evidence that would prove Donnie Boy's innocence. Until then, I'll trust the rich and powerful as far as I can throw them.


I was not butt hurt at all. The information is out there and already codified. If you trust that, I do not believe you know how to read, listen or write properly and that is not my problem Sir. You see that fence way over that pasture? [censored] off and go find it


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Originally Posted by Concho
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Donald never fornicated with any of this. That is their problem to figure out


He not into kids - only porn stars.



If you listen and are indoctrinated by the left-wing media...


Where there is smoke there is fire - money was paid - don't listen to the right or left media - they are both a joke - just rely on my internal radar. True details no one will ever know. Don't really care - if he is what your country needs than all the best. To pretend he is a saint though is naive - hell his roots and the foundation of his entire business come from his grandfather - a draft dodger who made his money selling women, booze and running gambling parlors. Acorn don't usually fall far.

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Originally Posted by Hirogen
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Originally Posted by Bee'z
Donald never fornicated with any of this. That is their problem to figure out


He not into kids - only porn stars.



If you listen and are indoctrinated by the left-wing media...


Where there is smoke there is fire - money was paid - don't listen to the right or left media - they are both a joke - just rely on my internal radar. True details no one will ever know. Don't really care as if he is what your country needs than all the best. To pretend he is a saint though is naive - hell his roots and the foundation of his entire business come from his grandfather - a draft dodger who made his money selling women, booze and running gambling parlors. Acorn don't usually fall far.



Why don't you address Canada's problems and stay out of our business? Believe me, you have enough problems of your own.

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Concho - apologies if i offended. I just have no use for politicians left or right or otherwise. They are all douche bags and in it for their own personal agendas. IMHO take or leave it Trump is no different. And for the record i would tear down and rebuild Canada but it is not up to me. Good luck and i hope the next 4 years are good for you guys


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Originally Posted by Hirogen
Concho - apologies if i offended. I just have no use for politicians left or right or otherwise. They are all douche bags and in it for their own personal agendas. IMHO take or leave it Trump is no different. And for the record i would tear down and rebuild Canada but it is not up to me. Good luck and i hope the next 4 years are good for you guys



You have enough problems with your own government, stay out of our business, I am offended, Trump is a national hero...

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I am really insulted that a person from another country can post here insulting the President of the United States and believe that is alright and normal...unbelievable.

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Originally Posted by Concho
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Concho - apologies if i offended. I just have no use for politicians left or right or otherwise. They are all douche bags and in it for their own personal agendas. IMHO take or leave it Trump is no different. And for the record i would tear down and rebuild Canada but it is not up to me. Good luck and i hope the next 4 years are good for you guys



You have enough problems with your own government, stay out of our business, I am offended, Trump is a national hero...

Originally Posted by Concho
I am really insulted that a person from another country can post here insulting the President of the United States and believe that is alright and normal...unbelievable.

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Concho - apologies if i offended. I just have no use for politicians left or right or otherwise. They are all douche bags and in it for their own personal agendas. IMHO take or leave it Trump is no different. And for the record i would tear down and rebuild Canada but it is not up to me. Good luck and i hope the next 4 years are good for you guys



You have enough problems with your own government, stay out of our business, I am offended, Trump is a national hero...

Originally Posted by Concho
I am really insulted that a person from another country can post here insulting the President of the United States and believe that is alright and normal...unbelievable.

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The weak listen to the left-wing media and regurgitate...sign of weakness.

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For the record i am not regurgitating anything but in the interests of peace i will stop posting.

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For the record i am not regurgitating anything but in the interests of peace i will stop posting.



Just stop bad mouthing our president, we don't do so on your websites about your guy, and you should respect our president, or hold your opinion. Donald Trump had nothing to do with Epstein's Island, or his reported illegal activities and there is no information reporting otherwise even in the left-wing media...so, no smoke or fire, dude.

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I have to agree with my Cannabis hating buddy.


I don't hate it...

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For the record i am not regurgitating anything but in the interests of peace i will stop posting.



Just stop bad mouthing our president, we don't do so on your websites about your guy, and you should respect our president, or hold your opinion. Donald Trump had nothing to do with Epstein's Island, or his reported illegal activities and there is no information reporting otherwise even in the left-wing media...so, no smoke or fire, dude.


Noted. Smoke or fire was not in relation to the list but other incidents. And for the record regardless of past actions if Trump is your Huckleberry than run with it and get it done.

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For the record i am not regurgitating anything but in the interests of peace i will stop posting.



Just stop bad mouthing our president, we don't do so on your websites about your guy, and you should respect our president, or hold your opinion. Donald Trump had nothing to do with Epstein's Island, or his reported illegal activities and there is no information reporting otherwise even in the left-wing media...so, no smoke or fire, dude.


Noted. Smoke or fire was not in relation to the list but other incidents. And for the record regardless of past actions if Trump is your Huckleberry than run with it and get it done.



My Huckleberry, no...and for the record the actual term was "Huckle Bearer" that being said, Donald Trump is our President and due the respect of any American president, representing the greatest nation on Earth, and only someone listening to left-wing media would diminish that respect.

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For the record i am not regurgitating anything but in the interests of peace i will stop posting.



Just stop bad mouthing our president, we don't do so on your websites about your guy, and you should respect our president, or hold your opinion. Donald Trump had nothing to do with Epstein's Island, or his reported illegal activities and there is no information reporting otherwise even in the left-wing media...so, no smoke or fire, dude.


Noted. Smoke or fire was not in relation to the list but other incidents. And for the record regardless of past actions if Trump is your Huckleberry than run with it and get it done.



My Huckleberry , no...and for the record the actual term was "Huckle Bearer" that being said, Donald Trump is our President and due the respect of any American president, representing the greatest nation on Earth, and only someone listening to left-wing media would diminish that respect.


Well agree to disagree as I listen to neither left wing or right wing media as they are both full of BS. Choose to formulate my own opinions based on what i observe in the real. Regardless i will pay respect where respect is due and seeing as he won fair and square respect is due.


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Damn right it is...

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Originally Posted by Concho
Damn right it is...


Doesn't mean i like him LOL! But more power to him!


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I ain't on the list and could care less who is on it but would sit back and watch them burn if it came down to that. Creepy politicians, rich, pedo's recording artitist...who cares. They are all corrupt including the current lot voted in! We think "we" voted for the best one or listen to/watch them in movies but face it they are human and we make poor choices in politics and entertainment at times.Greatest nation on earth!? We just keep the grey water separated from the black water a little better here! Most votes are cast against one not for the other! Epstein was just hedging his bets with names of power players and it still fell through. Just a white P Diddy and none of us were invited to the parties!


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Unfortunately the list has always just been nothing more than personal phone book.

Trump is a perfect example of course he had Trumps number, how did he get into Mara-logo to get thrown out. As powerful as CIA I mean Epestien was I’m sure he had contacts info of anyone that he would behave the CIA to have influence over


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A fellow Flight Engineer I worked with worked as the FE for one flight as their regular FE was sick that day on Epstein's 727. He said after he did the walk around and preflight they made him go into the cockpit and close the door so he could not see who the passengers were on the flight. Same when they landed, he could not see who they were when they got off.

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I was not butt hurt at all. The information is out there and already codified. If you trust that, I do not believe you know how to read, listen or write properly and that is not my problem Sir. You see that fence way over that pasture? [censored] off and go find it


Lol. Not butt-hurt but straight to insults and censored words. For the record I'm not saying he did. Just that it wouldn't surprise me. But I see now that you're so invested that if he did you'd find some way to justify it. So there's proof out there that indisputably exonerates him, huh? Guess I hadn't heard that. Sorry if I insulted your Messiah. I keep making the mistake of thinking he's human. My bad.

Concho, calm down. As Americans we believe in the freedom of speech. Even if they speak funny. grin

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Originally Posted by Bee'z

I was not butt hurt at all. The information is out there and already codified. If you trust that, I do not believe you know how to read, listen or write properly and that is not my problem Sir. You see that fence way over that pasture? [censored] off and go find it


Lol. Not butt-hurt but straight to insults and censored words. For the record I'm not saying he did. Just that it wouldn't surprise me. But I see now that you're so invested that if he did you'd find some way to justify it. So there's proof out there that indisputably exonerates him, huh? Guess I hadn't heard that. Sorry if I insulted your Messiah. I keep making the mistake of thinking he's human. My bad.

Concho, calm down. As Americans we believe in the freedom of speech. Even if they speak funny. grin



I think the fellow from Canada is just upset because Trump said Canada would make a great 51st State...seemed like a compliment to me.

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The list is not what mattered, it was all the stuff on the computers and the tapes that mysteriously disappeared after the feds raided the island. That is where the real evidence is and where the power to get folks to conform is located.
I guaranty if there was any video of President Trump, it would have been used by the left/dems before the election. They would have even sacrificed some of their own to get him.

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Originally Posted by Old Rabbit
The list is not what mattered, it was all the stuff on the computers and the tapes that mysteriously disappeared after the feds raided the island. That is where the real evidence is and where the power to get folks to conform is located.
I guaranty if there was any video of President Trump, it would have been used by the left/dems before the election. They would have even sacrificed some of their own to get him.


100% and those tapes have been destroyed long ago


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I bet there is a copy floating around somewhere as somone's insurance policy.

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I think Trump is about the best thing that has happened to the USA in my lifetime of 82 years.

Amen I believe that also. For sure if they had the goods on trump at the island it would have been out long ago hell they even made up other lies.

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Originally Posted by Dave Davidson
I think Trump is about the best thing that has happened to the USA in my lifetime of 82 years.

Amen I believe that also. For sure if they had the goods on trump at the island it would have been out long ago hell they even made up other lies.

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I guaranty if there was any video of President Trump, it would have been used by the left/dems before the election. They would have even sacrificed some of their own to get him.


Good point.

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Originally Posted by DonPablo
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I guaranty if there was any video of President Trump, it would have been used by the left/dems before the election. They would have even sacrificed some of their own to get him.


Good point.

Exactly. The only connection of Trump to the plane was 7 trips in 93-94 in which trump borrowed epsteins plane to travel between FL and NY with members of his own family. Then trump kicked epstein out of mar-a-lago when epstein started hitting on a 14 year old girl. then in 2002 (i think) when epstein was being prosecuted in fl, trump was the only person to pick up the phone and contact the investigating lawyer to give him as much info as he could to put epstein in jail.

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