For some reason I had no idea that hunters took out that much of the population annually. Even if it's a third, that's still a huge number.

I know biologist argue that there is only so much viable breeding ground so a lot more ducks making it back in the Spring doesn't result in a linear increase in production. Basically the grounds can only hold so much... but I have a hard time believing it.

Another realization... about a million duck hunters and 10-14M ducks killed. An average of 10 or so ducks per hunter per year. That's just an average weekend to me. Maybe I'm part of the problem

I'm not one of those folks that would hesitate to do the same 2 am wake up and 2 hour drive for 2 or 3 ducks a hunt.

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Harvest rates seem high until you only figure 10 for each hunter. I know a lot don’t shoot 10, but one guy that shoots 100 takes care of 9 that didn’t.

All 3 can be hens too. Another semi lengthy thread on that, almost identical to this one, just pintail based. Waterfowl population status thread by sniper John. Same thing, hunting doesn’t matter, research this and that, chug more kool aid, repeat.

The Katy prairie is gone,and around Eagle Lake went from 45,000 acres of rice to 4,000 and y'all wonder why we don't have ducks!

I don't think there is a single post here that "wonder why we don't have ducks!"...rather this has been a discussion, with anecdotal as well as reference to published analysis of the plight of waterfowl across at least this flyway and more broadly across the continent. In much the same way as the rice acreage on the Katy Prairie has dwindled, the participants of this thread have noted their alarm at the apparent lack of realization, or possibly purposefully ignoring the data being provided by knowledgeable, professional and respected waterfowl population biologists and statisticians, of the fact that population survey estimates don't match actual numbers seen by both members of the hunting public, and more importantly "professional" observers. Rice farmers steadily decreased the acreage committed to farming rice on the prairie in an almost exact duplication of the reduction of acre feet of water available to flood rice fields...no water...no waterfowl ~

Waterfowl population experts... actual biologists and statisticians, have had their findings diluted or completely ignored by the politicians that "lead the Agencies" that formulate and dictate policy, seasons and bag limits...These agency decision makers, no doubt influenced by the lobbyists for the equipment providing mega-stores, the social media influencers, etc, have guided hunting seasons and bag limits down the path of demise we now find ourselves on...Only by rending the future of waterfowl hunting from politicians and "biting the bullet" now do we stand any chance of preserving our water-fowling heritage...I have exercised VR regarding hens for 15 plus years...and "paid" extra to Delta and DU for any hens taken in error...and since my wife, [censored] that she was, passed in 2015... I have limited myself to 4 teal/day during early season and 3 ducks/day in aggregate, during regular duck season...and on the days the birds don't cooperate...I still get to spend hours in the duck marsh, with my canine companions, scanning the sky for the visual that still raises my pulse and makes me fumble for a teal whistle, or single reed duck call.

Just as the founders of Delta in 1911 and DU in 1937 stepped up and committed to preserving what was important to them...and their legacy...it's time we give all we can and take a little less...

Exactly! We shot them good the last 2 weeks of the season. And the past few years have been great.

I dont go off of stats and what magazines put out. I go off what I see each year and what the weather does. For some reason, alot of guys dont realize that weather is a huge reason why we either have birds or we dont. The other are crops in each flyway. More food...more ducks. Pretty simple.

Basing your assumption off of what you see in one area is very oblivious, these birds move thousands of miles annually in search of what they need. The overall population is low, and we continue to have liberal seasons and limits. Even raising the limits on some. The last time numbers were around these levels the limit was 3(2mallards)....just saying.

It is probably a combination of things rather than one issue. Could be any of Low population, more successful hunting methods, bird flu, short stopping, refuges, flooded crops and hunt clubs, higher limits in Canada and Mexico, poaching, climate changes, reduced nesting areas, predators, weather, wind farms, etc., but combined.

I completely agree that limits should be moved to 4 ducks per day. That should have been done years ago. I pray for the day that game laws follow scientific studies instead of fat wallets.

Personally I don't feel the number of ducks that can be shot is going to affect the trend. I don't believe any numbers the USFWS puts out. None. Why isn't there real research on the problem? I for one think forage is the number one reason.

Forage? What kind? Winter food? Nesting cover?

Agreed. Some of those things we can’t control. About half of them we as hunters can, and we are not. Not everyone included, but once upon a time hunters as a whole were conservationists as well. I’m seeing less and less of that these days.