https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-mistakes-Washington-DC-plane-crash.html

And why is it taking so long to publicly identify the Army pilot after the other 2 crew members were id’d yesterday? Something smells fishy.

Maybe because it took longer to notify next of kin?

I looked for 10 minutes early this morning and could not find it on the msm.

Yep, that's the way it works.

2 have been identified on Fox.

"The helicopter was above 300 feet when it should have been below 200 feet, four people briefed on the matter reportedly told the Times."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...on-air-traffic-controllers-b2689997.html

What bothers me about this is I am seeing reports that there was another incident with a helicopter less than 24 hours prior to the crash. Was it the same pilot?? If so I say its very fishy since they havent released the pilots name.

so what is the fishy part? you guys suggesting the pilot was a plant and intentionally rammed into a jet?

With the death of 66 people staining the pilot's name I can certainly see why they'd be hesitant to release the identity. People are nuts now days, I can only imagine the death threats, or worse, the family might get after such a tragedy.

That's what I'm wondering

Believe it is just pending notification of kin. Briefing an hour ago indicated next of kin notified on only 18 of 27 bodies positively identified (41 bodies found thus far).

always somebody thinking there was a plot to do something bad. People love dirty laundry.

Yes sir, my thoughts and you said it well.

Just like Henley sang in early 80s, "Dirty Laundry"

Family of third soldier killed requesting Army not release name
The family of the third solider killed in Wednesday's deadly midair collision near Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport is requesting their identity not be publicly released, the Army said Friday.

The Army has named the other soldiers killed in the collision. They were identified as Chief Warrant Officer 2 Andrew Loyd Eaves, 39, of Great Mills, Maryland, and Staff Sgt. Ryan Austin O'Hara, 28, of Lilburn, Georgia.

Eaves' remains have not been recovered. He served in the Navy from August 2007 to September 2017 before transitioning to a Black Hawk pilot for the Army in September 2017.

O’Hara began serving as Black Hawk helicopter mechanic in July 2014.

“The researchers found that overall, people were motivated to believe in conspiracy theories by a need to understand and feel safe in their environment and a need to feel like the community they identify with is superior to others.
Even though many conspiracy theories seem to provide clarity or a supposed secret truth about confusing events, a need for closure or a sense of control were not the strongest motivators to endorse conspiracy theories. Instead, the researchers found some evidence that people were more likely to believe specific conspiracy theories when they were motivated by social relationships. For instance, participants who perceived social threats were more likely to believe in events-based conspiracy theories, such as the theory that the U.S. government planned the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, rather than an abstract theory that, in general, governments plan to harm their citizens to retain power.”

https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2023/06/why-people-believe-conspiracy-theories

That sounds like something written specifically to lull the masses into a false sense of security.

Only joking.

Looking forward to the NTSB report. These tragedies are very often a result of a combination of errors and poor judgment. Usually not just one thing.

Obviously that area has a massive amount of air traffic. Blackhawk had pretty clear rules and elevation restrictions, which were not followed. The Army is not helping by withholding the name of the only female on board, leading to unnecessary speculation. When most report are she was not in control of the aircraft.

Judge Janine Piro asked her teammates on The Five what they think of the pilots family asking that she not be identified. They didn’t want any part of that question.
The NTSB just briefed that they will not be releasing the planes manifest even after the final report is made. Interesting.

cause will be from several circumstances, all having a part in the accident. It's human nature to look for someone to blame, disappointed when it's a circumstance.

I’d be curious if they typically do or do not release the manifest? I don’t believe they do.

Update: a brief search has shown that the NTSB typically does not release the passenger manifest.

If that’s standard practice, why even mention it and emphasizing it so strongly? IDK

I believe that the name they're not releasing is the Crew Chief. He certainly wouldn't have had any influence or impact on the situation. If his family doesn't want his name released, I would say that's their right.

Nope, CC was a named and pictured male SSGT. Pilot is a female.