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Re: Tumbleweeds [Re: Sewer rat] #9173642 01/20/25 11:30 PM
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Did anyone else think of this?


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Did anyone else think of this?


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Originally Posted by Sewer rat
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You want to manage an annual native browse planet and sue/fine land owners that don’t apply massive amounts of herbicides in the spring possibly killing the other native plants?

What root system and browse do you propose to replace them with?

I’m not a huge fan of tumbler weeds in the winter but no benefits to ridding land scape out side of fence maintenance



Tumbleweeds aka Russian thistle is not a native plant. I have never seen them get super bad in pastures that have native growth. Where they become a huge problem is on plowed ground that is abandoned with no cover crop. They take it over. You can kill them with herbicide, shred them before they get big and blow away, plant something else so they don't take over - lots of options. Being from the metroplex I am guessing you don't fully grasp this. I have lived in this area over 30 years and see it on a daily basis.



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Originally Posted by Sewer rat


Tumbleweeds aka Russian thistle is not a native plant.



Never knew that. This is an interesting read.

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/tumbleweeds-fastest-plant-invasion-in-usa-history.html

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Originally Posted by Sewer rat
Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
You want to manage an annual native browse planet and sue/fine land owners that don’t apply massive amounts of herbicides in the spring possibly killing the other native plants?

What root system and browse do you propose to replace them with?

I’m not a huge fan of tumbler weeds in the winter but no benefits to ridding land scape out side of fence maintenance



Tumbleweeds aka Russian thistle is not a native plant. I have never seen them get super bad in pastures that have native growth. Where they become a huge problem is on plowed ground that is abandoned with no cover crop. They take it over. You can kill them with herbicide, shred them before they get big and blow away, plant something else so they don't take over - lots of options. Being from the metroplex I am guessing you don't fully grasp this. I have lived in this area over 30 years and see it on a daily basis.


You'll regret that next to last sentence you wrote.


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Re: Tumbleweeds [Re: Sewer rat] #9173658 01/20/25 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sewer rat
Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
You want to manage an annual native browse planet and sue/fine land owners that don’t apply massive amounts of herbicides in the spring possibly killing the other native plants?

What root system and browse do you propose to replace them with?

I’m not a huge fan of tumbler weeds in the winter but no benefits to ridding land scape out side of fence maintenance



Tumbleweeds aka Russian thistle is not a native plant. I have never seen them get super bad in pastures that have native growth. Where they become a huge problem is on plowed ground that is abandoned with no cover crop. They take it over. You can kill them with herbicide, shred them before they get big and blow away, plant something else so they don't take over - lots of options. Being from the metroplex I am guessing you don't fully grasp this. I have lived in this area over 30 years and see it on a daily basis.


I stand corrected on being native, I own and operate 26 sections north of Dumas, I grew up on 100 sections, we also owned feedlot and grain elevator…

No way I’m shredding any of my range land or doing aerial spraying pasture/fence lines for tumble weeds, A) tear up a shredder B) not economically feasible as far as ROI.

Try again I’m 5th generation rancher/farm operator…


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Originally Posted by TurkeyHunter
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Tumbleweeds aka Russian thistle is not a native plant.



Never knew that. This is an interesting read.

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/tumbleweeds-fastest-plant-invasion-in-usa-history.html


Especially since I still remember hearing stories about family eating them during dust bowl. We are in the heart of the dust bowl


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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted by Sewer rat
Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
You want to manage an annual native browse planet and sue/fine land owners that don’t apply massive amounts of herbicides in the spring possibly killing the other native plants?

What root system and browse do you propose to replace them with?

I’m not a huge fan of tumbler weeds in the winter but no benefits to ridding land scape out side of fence maintenance



Tumbleweeds aka Russian thistle is not a native plant. I have never seen them get super bad in pastures that have native growth. Where they become a huge problem is on plowed ground that is abandoned with no cover crop. They take it over. You can kill them with herbicide, shred them before they get big and blow away, plant something else so they don't take over - lots of options. Being from the metroplex I am guessing you don't fully grasp this. I have lived in this area over 30 years and see it on a daily basis.


I stand corrected on being native, I own and operate 26 sections north of Dumas, I grew up on 100 sections, we also owned feedlot and grain elevator…

No way I’m shredding any of my range land or doing aerial spraying pasture/fence lines for tumble weeds, A) tear up a shredder B) not economically feasible as far as ROI.

Try again I’m 5th generation rancher/farm operator…


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We sprayed 270 acres a few years back that knocked them back.


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Lived in this area 30 years and doesn’t understand the agronomics of farming it either.

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Tumbleweeds are an invasive species. So are fire ants. I should not have to spend thousands of dollars eradicating my ranch of fire ants because they will spread to other places. I never wanted them either.

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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
You want to manage an annual native browse planet and sue/fine land owners that don’t apply massive amounts of herbicides in the spring possibly killing the other native plants?

What root system and browse do you propose to replace them with?

I’m not a huge fan of tumbler weeds in the winter but no benefits to ridding land scape out side of fence maintenance



Tumbleweeds aka Russian thistle is not a native plant. I have never seen them get super bad in pastures that have native growth. Where they become a huge problem is on plowed ground that is abandoned with no cover crop. They take it over. You can kill them with herbicide, shred them before they get big and blow away, plant something else so they don't take over - lots of options. Being from the metroplex I am guessing you don't fully grasp this. I have lived in this area over 30 years and see it on a daily basis.


I stand corrected on being native, I own and operate 26 sections north of Dumas, I grew up on 100 sections, we also owned feedlot and grain elevator…

No way I’m shredding any of my range land or doing aerial spraying pasture/fence lines for tumble weeds, A) tear up a shredder B) not economically feasible as far as ROI.

Try again I’m 5th generation rancher/farm operator…


My apologies. I just saw the metroplex on your profile and made the assumption and I was wrong.

I will say again though my issue is not with native range or pastures. It is with plowed fields that are let to go to solid tumbleweeds.

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"My apologies. I just saw the metroplex on your profile and made the assumption and I was wrong."

Bobo just posing as being from Texas Lite.

Re: Tumbleweeds [Re: Sewer rat] #9173889 Yesterday at 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sewer rat
Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted by Sewer rat
Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
You want to manage an annual native browse planet and sue/fine land owners that don’t apply massive amounts of herbicides in the spring possibly killing the other native plants?

What root system and browse do you propose to replace them with?

I’m not a huge fan of tumbler weeds in the winter but no benefits to ridding land scape out side of fence maintenance



Tumbleweeds aka Russian thistle is not a native plant. I have never seen them get super bad in pastures that have native growth. Where they become a huge problem is on plowed ground that is abandoned with no cover crop. They take it over. You can kill them with herbicide, shred them before they get big and blow away, plant something else so they don't take over - lots of options. Being from the metroplex I am guessing you don't fully grasp this. I have lived in this area over 30 years and see it on a daily basis.


I stand corrected on being native, I own and operate 26 sections north of Dumas, I grew up on 100 sections, we also owned feedlot and grain elevator…

No way I’m shredding any of my range land or doing aerial spraying pasture/fence lines for tumble weeds, A) tear up a shredder B) not economically feasible as far as ROI.

Try again I’m 5th generation rancher/farm operator…


My apologies. I just saw the metroplex on your profile and made the assumption and I was wrong.

I will say again though my issue is not with native range or pastures. It is with plowed fields that are let to go to solid tumbleweeds.


Well in your defense, I would have lost badly if I bet on them being native.

I’ve never looked at them other than just part of a slight winter annoyance, and really more annoying when I’m Pheasant hunting, as is grow/collect around backwater irrigation pits, grain silo, pens and fence lines, and bird like the cover, especially when it snows. Deer/
& Cattle will eat them also until they mature.

If I’m resting a dry land or irrigated field, I’m usually trying to rest from herbicide also. From my perspective, they are gone by time we go to prep early spring, if I’m planting fall they will be gone with one pass of the disc. In mean time they are holding soil and not a huge moisture wick. But they are fire liability around structures



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"My apologies. I just saw the metroplex on your profile and made the assumption and I was wrong."

Bobo just posing as being from Texas Lite.


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Dang, BoBo that's a lot of dirt. Did I miss City of BoBo on the map? grin


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Originally Posted by Grit
Dang, BoBo that's a lot of dirt. Did I miss City of BoBo on the map? grin


Think larger than city. He's kind of a big deal - ask him.

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Dang, BoBo that's a lot of dirt. Did I miss City of BoBo on the map? grin


Think larger than city. He's kind of a big deal - ask him.


Ok, COUNTY....... Or TWO. grin


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Is that where you can watch your dog run away for 3 weeks? grin


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Originally Posted by Sewer rat
Outside of Lubbock yesterday. What a mess. I think landowners should be held responsible for this. Imagine if you kept your property nice and clean and a neighbor let the weeds grow rampant and crap like this blew on to your place?

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Dang, BoBo that's a lot of dirt. Did I miss City of BoBo on the map? grin



It’s not continuous, it’s spread out. I can count exactly how many trees via both hands. It’s a blessing and a curse. It’s harsh country but fertile soil. Mother Nature either loves you or wants to destroy you. We average 17” a rain a year.


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Dang, BoBo that's a lot of dirt. Did I miss City of BoBo on the map? grin



It’s not continuous, it’s spread out. I can count exactly how many trees via both hands. It’s a blessing and a curse. It’s harsh country but fertile soil. Mother Nature either loves you or wants to destroy you. We average 17” a rain a year.







We're blessed with plenty of rain here. I wanted to move to West Texas or up in the Pan Handle, but just never panned out. I like having neighbors good and stretched out, if possible.

Continuous or not at least it's yours. If I had that much land I would never sleep at night from all the worrying about this and that. It's bad enough here on my little place.

I didn't realize you were so high in elevation. Air a little thin up there, eh? grin


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Dang, BoBo that's a lot of dirt. Did I miss City of BoBo on the map? grin



It’s not continuous, it’s spread out. I can count exactly how many trees via both hands. It’s a blessing and a curse. It’s harsh country but fertile soil. Mother Nature either loves you or wants to destroy you. We average 17” a rain a year.







We're blessed with plenty of rain here. I wanted to move to West Texas or up in the Pan Handle, but just never panned out. I like having neighbors good and stretched out, if possible.

Continuous or not at least it's yours. If I had that much land I would never sleep at night from all the worrying about this and that. It's bad enough here on my little place.

I didn't realize you were so high in elevation. Air a little thin up there, eh? grin


Yelp high plains. I’m big but not big out there if that makes sense, one of my neighbors is 156+ sections. I lease out and crop sharing so I’m pretty diversified, I don’t have near the liabilities I use too,


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Tumbleweeds aka Russian thistle is not a native plant.



Never knew that. This is an interesting read.

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/tumbleweeds-fastest-plant-invasion-in-usa-history.html


Especially since I still remember hearing stories about family eating them during dust bowl. We are in the heart of the dust bowl



Wow some other new info in this thread.

https://foodiegardener.com/tumbleweed-is-edible-spinach-alternative/

https://moabsunnews.com/2014/06/11/tumbleweed-its-whats-for-dinner/

"Tumbleweeds are edible, and are actually quite tasty! It can be cooked in the same way you cook collard greens when it is young! America's cattle were saved from starvation during the Dust Bowl of the 1930s because they ate this invasive thistle."

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