Outside of Lubbock yesterday. What a mess. I think landowners should be held responsible for this. Imagine if you kept your property nice and clean and a neighbor let the weeds grow rampant and crap like this blew on to your place?

Not sure that'll go over very well.

You're THAT guy in the neighborhood.

The road less traveled.

Hoping he’s not serious about that statement.

I am 100% for private property rights and own close to 400 acres so I know the work it entails to maintain. I think people should be able to do whatever they want with their property but if they neglect it and literally multiple semi loads of crap from their place blows on to mine that isn’t cool.

I am not suggesting a tumbleweed police nor do I have an issue with the random one here and there but is someone has acres of nothing but solid tumbleweeds it is a nuisance to the neighbors.

Are you the guy that fails to maintain your property and has trash from it blowing on to your neighbors?

I’m from that area; about 20 miles from Muleshoe and those things, actually Russian thistles, can travel for a lot of miles before winding up at your place. Mostly on undeveloped grazing land. Farmers plow and spray weeds. On large, open grazing land, theres not much that can be done.

As they tumble, they drop seeds. Just Mama Nature at work.

May as well outlaw flies, mosquitos, Winos, Junkies, Democrats, and noxious weeds.

Too hard for some people to comprehend.

That would make a fire.

Wonder how well they burn when tumbling?

I’ll be dang. He’s serious about this.

Do you also want landowners to be responsible for keeping the soil in place? If one guy sandfights after a rain and his neighbor doesn’t and the next windy day is blowing across his neighbors place to his, should the neighbor get in trouble for partially blowing him out?

If I get cold running my trap line on Monday, I’m going to sue Canada.

My first thought was “got a match?” Be LA but without all the celebrities…..

If one had white sand and one had black sand, would there be a problem with integration when the wind blew?

Nope, that's the guy next to me. But I don't whine about it. He's got waaaay bigger issues than his yard.

I want everyone else to compensate me for anything I don’t like!!

Maybe I did a poor job of explaining it. Tumbleweeds are going to happen. I have some in my pastures. That isn’t my gripe. They rarely lead to situations like this photo. Adjacent to this road is a 320 acre field that the farmer just abandoned and became solid thistle. 320 acres of solid tumbleweeds blowing on to your place or even blocking a public road isn’t a laughing matter. I have a 15’ batwing shredder and have tried mowing down piles of them on the road that leads to my place before and it is a nightmare. They ball up and get stuck in front of the shredder. It is very difficult to deal with. I feel that if it is an abnormal abundance of them that clearly came from a specific neglected property they should bear some responsibility for it. I am not at all saying if I find a couple dozen tumbleweeds in my fence they should go track down where they came from.

I understand that it’s frustrating. I also understand that you said you are 100% in favor of property owners rights. Well, you can’t have it both ways. Either they can do what they want, or they can do what you want. Do you want anyone telling you what you can or can’t do with your property?

Pretty much sums it up.

What a mess and imagine pain in the azz to deal with!

We have had them pile up against the Ranch house and house fences. Had to use the tractor to get them off.

I guess tumbleweeds in west Texas are the same as tree leaves in the suburbs. I dont have any Red Oaks in my yard but I have millions of Red Oak leaves every year.

Reminds me Myself and the adjoining landowner, were always accusing each others wild pigs of tearing up our fields. Of course we are smiling when doing so

I am for property rights. Where I feel the line is drawn is when someone does something that seriously impacts other property that is not theirs. To me that infringes on that persons property rights. Grow weeds or whatever you want on your property I don’t care but keep it on your property.

It’s a choice to keep up your property. A choice which requires time, effort and money. Government should be set up to respond to public dilemmas. If they’d keep it to that, we would all be better off

I built our new home on a 2 acre lot and we have no trees at all but my neighbor across the road has about 20 trees and every time the wind gets up out of the north his leaves will migrate onto my property collecting in my flower beds, my patio and even in my shop when it is open. Should I ask him to come rake them up?

I put a fence up when we bought this place. The guy with the trashy yard threw a fit. He said it would detract from his fence right next to it...the white, plastic, "split-rail" style crap that was big in the '90s.
My fence keeps a lot of his trash from blowing into mine, and...it keeps his little dogs from coming over and crapping, which is what I know he enjoyed watching and was the real reason he got upset. What. A. Loon.

It's his property and he can do whatever the hell he wants. We quietly do whatever we think is best for our property, without asking for neighbors' opinion or approval. That tends to piss some people off.

Tumbleweeds kill people and livestock. They made a movie about it:

https://www.amazon.com/Killer-Tumbleweeds-Butch-McCain/dp/B09BD7WNG8

This is the one thing that really pisses me off more than anything else. I`ve always gotten along with my neighbors but dog $hit on my lawn I will not tolerate. I just wait until the owners of said dog $hit leaves and I remove with a shovel and launch onto their lawn. After a few times of scattered dog $hit across their lawn they get the hint. I`m pretty sure they know how it got scattered across their lawn and I would welcome a knock at the door to discuss why they let their dog crap on my lawn.

Can I come with you when you go?

I've got that problem, too. Neighbor next door doesn't think his little dog has enough room to crap on his 2 acres so he allows the ankle biting little chit craw under the barb wire and let's him run and crap all over my place. I have much larger acreage, so I guess he thinks my place is also his to do what he pleases. We have ask him to please keep his mutt over there, but you know how Democrats are..... What's your's is also theirs.

It's a petty dominance thing of the insecure. The dog's just a pawn, poor, dumb thing.

Grrrrrrr!

Sign:

Danger

Coyote Poisoning in Progress



Hang on your fence

My issue is the property owner where they came from didn’t do anything. The tumbleweeds grew without any assistance (fair assumption). The owner shouldn’t have to do anything.

There's not much you can do about weeds. Seeds can make it on to your property all kinds of ways. Dispersal can be wind, water, clothing, footwear, vehicles (trucks, farm equipment) you name it. Heck, hundreds if not thousands of invasives have been introduced into the U.S. Chances are you have more than a few in your pasture right now.

For the first time in 13 years, I'm battling Yellow Bluestem ( better known as King Ranch Bluestem), vasey grass and maybe broomsedge (hopefully some of it is Little Bluestem). I have NO idea where it came from, but the Yellow Bluestem has taken over (well interspersed) 90% of my open areas in less than a years time. The stuff is nearly impossible to get rid of. Do some research on it if you haven't already. It's a real eye opener. The Highway Department spread it everywhere and it's been here ever since.

Yes I'm guilty, I've been turning dirt.

I had KRB on n my lawn 5 years ago . Only way to get rid of it was to pull or Roundup spray. Roundup took care of many big clumps of the hell grass. It took 3 months for the tifway419 to fill in and I pull every clump asap now.

Yep hell grass. That's a good name for it. Did you ever see that pic of a guy that dug out a KRB with roots 9 foot deep?

That vasey grass grows in clumps, but has completely filled in a hillside of mine. I didn't realize that the KRB was encroaching in on the vasey grass. That vasey grass is thick and tough. But I'll be danged if that KRB isn't trying to choke it out! It's the battle of the weeds.

Edit to add: That Vasey grass is about 5 foot tall now. I had some last summer top out over 7 foot! That some bad chit there.

Used to stack up as high as the roofline on the house. Not too many days you can burn them, but man they burned HOT!

No. Stuff like that is normal. I get leaves and such from my neighbors trees and don’t complain. I feel that many of you don’t grasp the magnitude of the issue I am describing.They can make a road impassable. There are probably enough tumbleweeds from a 320 acre field of solid tumbleweeds to fill your entire two acres 200’ tall with solid tumbleweeds.

A couple of snares would stop that….

I thought about doing worse things, but I have to live with him being my neighbor. I just wish he would respect my property like I do his, but that's not the way it is. I have two big dogs that run up to the mailbox with me every day and I have them trained to go up there with me and back and that's what they do. They have never been on his property or anyone else's. I guarantee you, if he saw mine on his property, he would shoot them and then say he didn't know they were my dogs! I just don't get it and wonder what goes through the mind of some people.

Sorry for the drift, Sewer rat.

You want to manage an annual native browse planet and sue/fine land owners that don’t apply massive amounts of herbicides in the spring possibly killing the other native plants?

What root system and browse do you propose to replace them with?

I’m not a huge fan of tumbler weeds in the winter but no benefits to ridding land scape out side of fence maintenance

Is this the same as neighbors leaves blowing into you yard? Good grief!

It just goes to show that everyone is downstream from someone.

Tumbleweeds aka Russian thistle is not a native plant. I have never seen them get super bad in pastures that have native growth. Where they become a huge problem is on plowed ground that is abandoned with no cover crop. They take it over. You can kill them with herbicide, shred them before they get big and blow away, plant something else so they don't take over - lots of options. Being from the metroplex I am guessing you don't fully grasp this. I have lived in this area over 30 years and see it on a daily basis.

Did anyone else think of this?

Yep!

Never knew that. This is an interesting read.

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/tumbleweeds-fastest-plant-invasion-in-usa-history.html

You'll regret that next to last sentence you wrote.

I stand corrected on being native, I own and operate 26 sections north of Dumas, I grew up on 100 sections, we also owned feedlot and grain elevator…

No way I’m shredding any of my range land or doing aerial spraying pasture/fence lines for tumble weeds, A) tear up a shredder B) not economically feasible as far as ROI.

Try again I’m 5th generation rancher/farm operator…

Especially since I still remember hearing stories about family eating them during dust bowl. We are in the heart of the dust bowl

Told ya so.

We sprayed 270 acres a few years back that knocked them back.

Lived in this area 30 years and doesn’t understand the agronomics of farming it either.

Tumbleweeds are an invasive species. So are fire ants. I should not have to spend thousands of dollars eradicating my ranch of fire ants because they will spread to other places. I never wanted them either.

My apologies. I just saw the metroplex on your profile and made the assumption and I was wrong.

I will say again though my issue is not with native range or pastures. It is with plowed fields that are let to go to solid tumbleweeds.

"My apologies. I just saw the metroplex on your profile and made the assumption and I was wrong."

Bobo just posing as being from Texas Lite.

Well in your defense, I would have lost badly if I bet on them being native.

I’ve never looked at them other than just part of a slight winter annoyance, and really more annoying when I’m Pheasant hunting, as is grow/collect around backwater irrigation pits, grain silo, pens and fence lines, and bird like the cover, especially when it snows. Deer/
& Cattle will eat them also until they mature.

If I’m resting a dry land or irrigated field, I’m usually trying to rest from herbicide also. From my perspective, they are gone by time we go to prep early spring, if I’m planting fall they will be gone with one pass of the disc. In mean time they are holding soil and not a huge moisture wick. But they are fire liability around structures

I’ve grown found of trees and milder winters in my old age

This morning, I smiled as I realized I’m not out breaking ice on troughs….