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Re: Matthew Livelsberger Military Record: Cybertruck Suspect Was Green Beret [Re: Hirogen] #9162985 01/03/25 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Hirogen


That image looks like he is on the heavy side (double chin anyone?) for Special Forces compared to what i have in my mind for someone who is actually "fit and active." Maybe not relevant but just looks like a standard middle age out of shape "Joe." Hell i am 60 and don't have that much of double chin.


You might be surprised. I have seen some fat green berets. I think it comes down to mental and physical toughness, moreso than physical fitness.

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Re: Matthew Livelsberger Military Record: Cybertruck Suspect Was Green Beret [Re: kry226] #9163009 01/03/25 02:02 PM
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He was responding as an operations director of a company, sending a recently military separated person to the contractor.

This again shows this Matthew guy was likely nothing more than a desk jockey during his military time.

Um, he has two medals awarded for valor (BSM w/V, and ARCOM w/V).

While I'm not sure of all his motivations, we can safely say one was suicide... and that he has terrible taste in weapons.


According to the Army public affairs not only did he have what you listed, he was decorated. Also had a CIB and was SF tabbed. Not a desk jockey.

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Re: Matthew Livelsberger Military Record: Cybertruck Suspect Was Green Beret [Re: SnakeWrangler] #9163022 01/03/25 02:22 PM
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That "truck" held up pretty good considering.

Re: Matthew Livelsberger Military Record: Cybertruck Suspect Was Green Beret [Re: 10 Gauge] #9163034 01/03/25 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 10 Gauge
Originally Posted by Hirogen


That image looks like he is on the heavy side (double chin anyone?) for Special Forces compared to what i have in my mind for someone who is actually "fit and active." Maybe not relevant but just looks like a standard middle age out of shape "Joe." Hell i am 60 and don't have that much of double chin.


You might be surprised. I have seen some fat green berets. I think it comes down to mental and physical toughness, moreso than physical fitness.


I doubt anyone would call this SF guy "fat"!

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Re: Matthew Livelsberger Military Record: Cybertruck Suspect Was Green Beret [Re: SnakeWrangler] #9163041 01/03/25 03:05 PM
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I am not trying to discount anything anyone is saying about his decorations, but in the timeframe of his deployments, the Army was giving out medals for just being places. I know docs that got bronze stars and such for just being in theater and never doing a dang thing. The valor means he was in action (but this could just mean his base was attacked ior something?) but at the time the army was giving almost anything away and being a comms enlisted guy in the SF command center, he probably got the valor portion added to make it easier to promote. The usarmy in the early to mid 2000’s was a joke when it came to medals.

And when i was in country, i saw an incredible amount of fat, yes fat, army dudes and gals. All the spec ops guys that came and hung at the hospitals with us were in shape and you could tell who they were.

I stand by my statements this guy was likely a desk jockey. Anyone who spends 19 years active duty is coming away with a decorated chest, the joe public reporter doesnt know what that means if it is 6 medals or 22 on there. Heck, joe public sees a basic trainee graduate with 3 medals and would say that he is a decorated graduate.

Re: Matthew Livelsberger Military Record: Cybertruck Suspect Was Green Beret [Re: SnakeWrangler] #9163044 01/03/25 03:09 PM
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If they wore those individual toe shoes, they were SF.

Re: Matthew Livelsberger Military Record: Cybertruck Suspect Was Green Beret [Re: SnakeWrangler] #9163055 01/03/25 03:17 PM
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Whatever he was, what he just did discredits it all!



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Re: Matthew Livelsberger Military Record: Cybertruck Suspect Was Green Beret [Re: Jimbo1] #9163096 01/03/25 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbo1
Whatever he was, what he just did discredits it all!


I have to agree! I wonder what pushes a person like this to do such an evil thing?

My brother spent 27 years (retired SGM) in 5th SF GRP (Ft. Campbell, KY). He has PTSD pretty bad but still has his humor and wits about him.


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Re: Matthew Livelsberger Military Record: Cybertruck Suspect Was Green Beret [Re: The Dude Abides] #9163126 01/03/25 04:38 PM
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I am telling you. It is the influence of social media and recreational outrage. These people view themselves as heroes.


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Re: Matthew Livelsberger Military Record: Cybertruck Suspect Was Green Beret [Re: SnakeWrangler] #9163141 01/03/25 05:05 PM
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Had to be a beating driving a Tesla truck from Colorado to Vegas. Probably had to charge a dozen times.

Re: Matthew Livelsberger Military Record: Cybertruck Suspect Was Green Beret [Re: Roll-Tide] #9163144 01/03/25 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Roll-Tide
Had to be a beating driving a Tesla truck from Colorado to Vegas. Probably had to charge a dozen times.



815 miles. Initial charge plus 2 charges.

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Musk has the records of every charge along the way. I’d like to know how the explosives were detonated.



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Re: Matthew Livelsberger Military Record: Cybertruck Suspect Was Green Beret [Re: Roll-Tide] #9163174 01/03/25 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Roll-Tide
Had to be a beating driving a Tesla truck from Colorado to Vegas. Probably had to charge a dozen times.

That alone would drive one to madness.

Re: Matthew Livelsberger Military Record: Cybertruck Suspect Was Green Beret [Re: Texas buckeye] #9163211 01/03/25 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas buckeye
I am not trying to discount anything anyone is saying about his decorations, but in the timeframe of his deployments, the Army was giving out medals for just being places. I know docs that got bronze stars and such for just being in theater and never doing a dang thing. The valor means he was in action (but this could just mean his base was attacked ior something?) but at the time the army was giving almost anything away and being a comms enlisted guy in the SF command center, he probably got the valor portion added to make it easier to promote. The usarmy in the early to mid 2000’s was a joke when it came to medals.

And when i was in country, i saw an incredible amount of fat, yes fat, army dudes and gals. All the spec ops guys that came and hung at the hospitals with us were in shape and you could tell who they were.

I stand by my statements this guy was likely a desk jockey. Anyone who spends 19 years active duty is coming away with a decorated chest, the joe public reporter doesnt know what that means if it is 6 medals or 22 on there. Heck, joe public sees a basic trainee graduate with 3 medals and would say that he is a decorated graduate.

Yeah, that would go over really well with his buddies who actually earned their V devices, while bringing a lot of other buddies home in body bags... not to mention the 2-star who approved the award. I get it... this guy was a POS, but your ignorant comments are disgusting, and quite frankly, insulting.

But by all means, keep digging...


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Re: Matthew Livelsberger Military Record: Cybertruck Suspect Was Green Beret [Re: SnakeWrangler] #9163282 01/03/25 09:56 PM
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His manifesto is out

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Originally Posted by thegrouse
His manifesto is out


The ramblings and paranoia of a schizophrenic/psychotic break. Sad.

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Quite a manifesto, "Wake Up, Boom"! Mindset of a confused or deranged person.

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Re: Matthew Livelsberger Military Record: Cybertruck Suspect Was Green Beret [Re: SnakeWrangler] #9163320 01/04/25 12:00 AM
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Paranoid schizophrenia is sad to see and for some reason it seems like it’s becoming more prevalent.

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Re: Matthew Livelsberger Military Record: Cybertruck Suspect Was Green Beret [Re: thegrouse] #9163428 01/04/25 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by thegrouse
His manifesto is out

Always a convenient manifesto for all of these guys. Really makes you wonder.

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Not too sure about “always” Charles Whitman at the UT tower didn’t. James Holmes in the Aurora Co movie theater didn’t. Stephen Paddock at the Vegas concert didn’t. Those are just a few off the top of my head. When they don’t put one out the conspiracy theorists make that a conspiracy too.

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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Not too sure about “always” Charles Whitman at the UT tower didn’t. James Holmes in the Aurora Co movie theater didn’t. Stephen Paddock at the Vegas concert didn’t. Those are just a few off the top of my head. When they don’t put one out the conspiracy theorists make that a conspiracy too.

Those are all much older events.

In the past year or two, was there any shooter from these events that *didn't* have one? At this point it's almost a requirement to write a multi-page report whinging about your life before you try and kill someone.

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Re: Matthew Livelsberger Military Record: Cybertruck Suspect Was Green Beret [Re: SnakeWrangler] #9163526 01/04/25 04:36 PM
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They are addicted to cell phone/internet/social media and recreational outrage. They are not living in reality, they live on the internet. They view themselves as heroes.

They don’t wake up one day and say “i feel like doing something terrible, murdering innocents, and killing myself” and start planning. They view themselves as martyrs. The result of weeks, months, or years spending most of their free time viewing the internet and social media, guided by an algorithm that keeps them in the proverbial “echo chamber”.

It’s like they MK-Ultra’d themselves.

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