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 Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
[Re: Sniper John]
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12/20/24 03:46 AM
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I sent Cornyn one. Did not get a response.
Cornyn was getting called out for have 3 government pensions and a federal paycheck. Maybe he didn’t need the attention.
I sent one to my house Rep. K self. He’s a coward too. I did get a long denial reason.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/20/24 03:50 AM
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What was the benefit to paying in? What is the downside to not paying in?
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
[Re: Sniper John]
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12/20/24 01:27 PM
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Before I say this let me first state that I am a Republican and I vote Republican,,,,
but don't count on any Texas Republican to do anything that would benefit the people who work in public education. It goes against their message.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/20/24 02:43 PM
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What was the benefit to paying in? What is the downside to not paying in? Had I been given the choice, I would not have paid in the social security. As is the case with every topic, the private sector does a better job at everything than government does. I would have invested the money somewhere that it would have grown much more. There would be no down side to not paying in.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
[Re: Sniper John]
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12/20/24 05:15 PM
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The biggest example is the lady who wants to be a teacher. Pays into pension but no SS. Leaves after 15 years and decides teaching isn’t for her. Accumulating at 1100 dollar a month pension she can draw at age 65.
Goes to private sector and has to pay into SS for 20 years, not an option.
She decides to retire and has no idea the government is about to take 1200 of her earned SS because she has a pension from teaching. Essentially punished for those years of teaching.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/20/24 05:31 PM
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The biggest example is the lady who wants to be a teacher. Pays into pension but no SS. Leaves after 15 years and decides teaching isn’t for her. Accumulating at 1100 dollar a month pension she can draw at age 65.
Goes to private sector and has to pay into SS for 20 years, not an option.
She decides to retire and has no idea the government is about to take 1200 of her earned SS because she has a pension from teaching. Essentially punished for those years of teaching. And I never understood the purpose, the same lady could have skipped teaching, the community would have been the loser, she could have just worked the twenty years, waited until social security age, and not been penalized...makes No sense, you have to earn the minimum credit to get any Social Security so why the need?
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/20/24 05:34 PM
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What was the benefit to paying in? What is the downside to not paying in? Had I been given the choice, I would not have paid in the social security. As is the case with every topic, the private sector does a better job at everything than government does. I would have invested the money somewhere that it would have grown much more. There would be no down side to not paying in. Yes, and the government is still calling Social Security Pension an entitlement, yet a third grader could have invested the same money more wisely than our government.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
[Re: Sniper John]
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12/20/24 05:46 PM
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Cruz said he wasn’t going to sell “granny down the River” for this bill. He’s too dumb to realize he and the government has been screwing the granny teacher everyday for 40 years.
Rand Paul has now added amendments.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/20/24 05:50 PM
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I’m no SS expert.
Some have suggested removing the income cap of 168k up to 500k which would fix SS for another 50 years.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/20/24 08:37 PM
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What was the benefit to paying in? What is the downside to not paying in? Had I been given the choice, I would not have paid in the social security. As is the case with every topic, the private sector does a better job at everything than government does. I would have invested the money somewhere that it would have grown much more. There would be no down side to not paying in. Yes, and the government is still calling Social Security Pension an entitlement, yet a third grader could have invested the same money more wisely than our government. In 2001, I probably could have bought one acre in Melissa, for $15,000. I'd be selling that acre for $1-1.5 million this year.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/20/24 09:08 PM
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What was the benefit to paying in? What is the downside to not paying in? Had I been given the choice, I would not have paid in the social security. As is the case with every topic, the private sector does a better job at everything than government does. I would have invested the money somewhere that it would have grown much more. There would be no down side to not paying in. Yes, and the government is still calling Social Security Pension an entitlement, yet a third grader could have invested the same money more wisely than our government. In 2001, I probably could have bought one acre in Melissa, for $15,000. I'd be selling that acre for $1-1.5 million this year. Yes, my wife and I have bought and sold numerous properties for just that very reason...land is something no longer made, at least not in America.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/20/24 09:18 PM
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Hind sight is 20/20 and I’m butt deep in it. Would have, could have, should have.
The stock market hasn’t treated me nearly as well as Texas real estate. Of course, inflation, expenses and annual taxes all have to be considered. Then, if and when I sell the real estate, I have to pay taxes on the gain.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/20/24 09:32 PM
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Hind sight is 20/20 and I’m butt deep in it. Would have, could have, should have.
The stock market hasn’t treated me nearly as well as Texas real estate. Of course, inflation, expenses and annual taxes all have to be considered. Then, if and when I sell the real estate, I have to pay taxes on the gain. Yes, Uncle Sam always gets his part...but investment wise for an old penny pincher like me, real estate is hard to beat in my opinion.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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At the moment they are voting on Rand Pauls amendment to H.R.82 that would raise the SS age to 70. I think there are 5 more amendments to vote on before it goes to a final vote.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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Thanks for the update!
At what year born would the 70 yo be effective?
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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Yesterday at 03:49 AM
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Looks like another few hours before they are done. Good thing there is a game on
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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Thanks for the update!
At what year born would the 70 yo be effective? Don't matter. It has already failed. I don't think any of the amendments will get voted in. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/12/full-1680-439868-471169920_10161880778517247_5717495528060249047_n.jpg)
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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Think they need to vote down Cruz amendment. Rand Paul and Cruz kept this thing going late into night.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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Looks like Cruz one was voted down. I am shocked this might be happening.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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Cruz overseeing things. 😂
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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Think they have to hear Grasserly next.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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All amendments shot down. Vote coming soon
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