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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
[Re: Sniper John]
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12/12/24 03:34 AM
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Wow, I didn't think they would vote on it. I figured they would skip town without dealing with it.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/12/24 03:42 AM
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They are fighting for something to make this not look like how bad it really was.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/12/24 04:03 AM
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/12/24 04:21 AM
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Schumer says he has the democrats and needs 15 Republicans.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/12/24 12:25 PM
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FYI, I sent an email to Senator Cornyn regarding the Social Security fairness act. He basically said he will not support it in the Senate because it will make Social Security go bankrupt.. How many years have we heard that but we can fund Ukraine and illegal aliens
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/12/24 02:30 PM
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People are living too long versus when SS was established. Used the crooked war money and "foreign aid" to fund those that are over 65 and choose to accept SS (or they can be paid off too), and the rest of every dollar paid in by any other living person should be paid back with interest. Thus ending SS. The govt can't run anything without being in the red....we need minimize their opportunities to fail.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/12/24 02:33 PM
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Cornyn is Swamp. He needs to be out of office, and his Texas citizenship revoked.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/12/24 02:54 PM
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FYI, I sent an email to Senator Cornyn regarding the Social Security fairness act. He basically said he will not support it in the Senate because it will make Social Security go bankrupt.. How many years have we heard that but we can fund Ukraine and illegal aliens That’s just wrong.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/12/24 05:12 PM
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im lucky. 30 rears with a retirement plan and ss. It was never meant to pass. kinda like probable cause.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/12/24 05:39 PM
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/12/24 09:59 PM
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/12/24 10:25 PM
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I think the vote is next week. Cronyn and Cruz are against it.
I emailed Cronyn. Didn't get a response.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/12/24 10:52 PM
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/12/24 10:58 PM
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/12/24 11:18 PM
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That post above says the cloture vote is today
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/12/24 11:33 PM
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Gov and school people have the same opportunity for benefits as private, why allow double dipping for Gov workers? No different than working and drawing SS, you don't get 'full' payment. So we should double the payment for Gov just because? Hey, take off the working penalty for the rest of us.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/12/24 11:55 PM
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Gov and school people have the same opportunity for benefits as private, why allow double dipping for Gov workers? No different than working and drawing SS, you don't get 'full' payment. So we should double the payment for Gov just because? Hey, take off the working penalty for the rest of us. Hey, Doofas We paid into Social Security, just like everyone else. We also paid into a second and/ or third retirement accounts. Since we paid in, we should get it back. Had I not paid into Social Security, that money would be worth at least 20X what is in the account right now. Because I would have invested it safely and wisely. But I was forced to pay in, just like every other tax payer.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/13/24 12:34 AM
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Some are incredibly uneducated. My SS estimate is not much, maybe 1200 at 62. But it’s mine and I paid in and earned it. Giving the government 600 of it is not the answer.
Otherwise, the government would penalize everyone with a million bucks in their 401k. They don’t need the SS.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/13/24 12:55 AM
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Some are incredibly uneducated. My SS estimate is not much, maybe 1200 at 62. But it’s mine and I paid in and earned it. Giving the government 600 of it is not the answer.
Otherwise, the government would penalize everyone with a million bucks in their 401k. They don’t need the SS. You’re kidding, right?
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/13/24 01:01 AM
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Some are incredibly uneducated. My SS estimate is not much, maybe 1200 at 62. But it’s mine and I paid in and earned it. Giving the government 600 of it is not the answer.
Otherwise, the government would penalize everyone with a million bucks in their 401k. They don’t need the SS. You’re kidding, right? Using duffas logic. If he believes someone who fully contributed to SS and only draws half their benefit because of a small pension. What is to stop the government from denying SS benefits to those they consider “the rich”. They do it for everything else. Everything is income based. From college admissions, Obamacare, tax brackets.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/13/24 01:14 AM
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I see. I was responding to your statement that someone with $1,000,000.00 in a 401k didn’t need SS. Some would say I don’t NEED ss. I’d like to make that decision myself. If all you had was $1,000,000.00, that’s not enough.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/13/24 12:19 PM
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From this article it looks like the government can't pay us what they don't or won't have. We are spending, make that borrowing, double what we take in. Can you double your lifestyle right now with your present income? The government can keep mouse clicking Dollars out of thin air for so long. I think that Ponzi has already gone on many years longer than imaginable. China and Russia already quit buying our Treasuries, (loaning us money). A financial podcaster yesterday said we anticipate rolling over ten $Trillion$ in 2025. In order to sell that debt, borrow money, those Treasuries will likely have to bring a higher interest rate. The Feds can't control that. Treasuries are sold on the open market. Therefore the interest rate on the US debt will increase. This snowball just keeps getting bigger. https://www.zerohedge.com/economics...s-budget-deficit-worst-start-year-record
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/13/24 02:23 PM
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I think the vote is next week. Cronyn and Cruz are against it.
I emailed Cronyn. Didn't get a response. Cornyn is a piece of antigun trash.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/13/24 02:28 PM
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Gov and school people have the same opportunity for benefits as private, why allow double dipping for Gov workers? No different than working and drawing SS, you don't get 'full' payment. So we should double the payment for Gov just because? Hey, take off the working penalty for the rest of us. Hey, Doofas We paid into Social Security, just like everyone else. We also paid into a second and/ or third retirement accounts. Since we paid in, we should get it back. Had I not paid into Social Security, that money would be worth at least 20X what is in the account right now. Because I would have invested it safely and wisely. But I was forced to pay in, just like every other tax payer. Yep, since we paid into SS then we should receive it, just like everyone else. It really is a very simple concept to understand.
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Re: My Brother Firefighters, Police and Teachers
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12/13/24 03:33 PM
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Gov and school people have the same opportunity for benefits as private, why allow double dipping for Gov workers? No different than working and drawing SS, you don't get 'full' payment. So we should double the payment for Gov just because? Hey, take off the working penalty for the rest of us. Hey, Doofas We paid into Social Security, just like everyone else. We also paid into a second and/ or third retirement accounts. Since we paid in, we should get it back. Had I not paid into Social Security, that money would be worth at least 20X what is in the account right now. Because I would have invested it safely and wisely. But I was forced to pay in, just like every other tax payer. Yep, since we paid into SS then we should receive it, just like everyone else. It really is a very simple concept to understand. I think the issue is more about how much you have paid in while working, versus those that have never NOT paid in.
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